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Brian Fargo and his studio inXile Entertainment hope to be responsible for the next big Kickstarter-funded game, having recently announced plans for a sequel to Fargo’s 1998 roleplaying game Wasteland – perhaps best known as the predecessor to Fallout. Wasteland 2 will be a turn-based, party-based roleplaying game in a post-apocalyptic setting – in other words, in theory what veteran Fallout fans have been crying out for. The same might be said of anyone who feels that today’s RPGs have abandoned their roots in favour of big, glossy action. A few days ago, I chatted to the effusive Mr Fargo about how the project is going, why now, how far along the design is, who he’s making it for, why old-school RPGs seemed to die out, how long the Kickstarter bubble can last and the importance or lack thereof of audio and cinematics to a game that’s all about cause and effect.(more…)

If you enjoyed the look of Fallout 3 and The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim as much as I did, we have, in large part, Bethesda Game Studios concept artist Adam Adamowicz to thank.

Unfortunately, he’s no longer with us.

Adamowicz reportedly passed away earlier this week, the tragic result of a battle with cancer. He was 42.

There’s an informative and touching eulogy by a fellow concept artist at Awesome Robo, which includes plenty of Adamowicz’s art.

You may not know Adam Adamowicz’s name, but if you’ve played either Fallout 3 or Skyrim, you’ll have seen masses of his work. His job was to produce the vast and imaginative collections of concept art that made their worlds so exciting to explore, from characters to weapons, to the jaunty hats your hero could opt to wear while slaughtering deathclaws and daedra alike. Very sadly, Adam passed away on February 8.

Find out exactly what he contributed to your adventures with this fantastic eulogy and collection of his works from a fellow concept artist over at Awesome Robo.

It’s the Duke Nukem Forever of gaming-based legal scuffles, and apparently it’s over at last. We don’t yet know the details – i.e. who’s won, who’s paying who what and most of all who, if anyone, will be releasing a Fallout MMO – but we do know that, after an awful lot of back and forth and he said no he said but he started it but yeah but no a settlement has finally been reached in the long-running Bethesda and Interplay battle.(more…)

The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, the sequel to Oblivion, launches tomorrow. I’ve been playing the PC version of it during every waking hour of the last four days, and most of the non-waking hours too. I’m still not really ready to tell you what I think. I will anyway.(more…)

Remember when the apocalypse was awesome? I'm talking The Road Warrior, Terminator, Escape from New York, and yes, of course, Zardoz. I'm talking about when the sheer mechanics of a post-apocalyptic world seemed ludicrous, yet fascinating. I'm talking about a future where shit has completely gone to pot, and the rules of society that we take so much for granted simply don't apply anymore. There was a time when these elaborate fantasies of leather-clad, eye-patched, machine-gun-toting bad asses roaming the wastelands of the world we once knew seemed astonishing. There was creativity in these post-apocalyptic visions that, in a weird way, kind of made us wish for our own Armageddon, if only so that we, too, could have our own muscle car, complete with flamethrower and optional minigun to roam our own wasteland, hunting for mutants and searching for the last vestiges of humanity.

That time seems a distant memory these days. That isn't to say there isn't compelling post-apocalyptic fiction out there, but it often seems as though, like so many other subgenres of sci-fi, the apocalypse is now just recycling itself. We're at the point where the apocalypse has gone from some magnificently ruinous world of startlingly weird possibility to just the same tragic stuff viewed through the same dusty, brown filter over and over again. As adored as video games like S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Fallout 3, Borderlands, and the Gears of War series are--and that's not even taking into account the roughly eight billion zombie permutations of the genre--there seems to be a growing unease with the state of apocalyptic games, especially in the realm of the shooter.

I chalk the reaction I get when talking to some people about id Software's Rage up to this feeling of apocalyptic malaise. Announced back in 2007, Rage seemed a fresh, exciting new thing when it debuted to the world, but in subsequent years, with title after title delivering one riff on the same inhospitable wastelands we've seen time and time again, Rage's promise of yet another spin through a dusty, irradiated back country full of bandits, mutants, and what have you, stopped seeming quite as fresh. In effect, the apocalypse was passing id by.

This cannot be a comfortable feeling for the studio. John Carmack and team have always prided themselves on being on the bleeding edge of technology, spending years developing hugely impressive engine technologies meant to push PC gaming--and, by proxy, the whole of gaming--forward into exciting new realms. So why is it when I talk to people about Rage, the reaction I encounter is one of, at best, cautious interest, and at worst, a dismissive shrug? Again, the response I typically get is the same: It's another apocalyptic shooter.

It's this dismissive notion that I think id and Bethesda are aiming to aggressively combat in the few months left before the game's release. So confident is Bethesda and id in what they have that they recently let the press come out and play Rage for a solid three hours, right from the beginning of the game on. No 20 minute demo levels, no closely guarded multiplayer sessions under optimal conditions. Just a monitor, a console, a build, a chair, and a few hours to discover whatever I may.

In those three hours, I discovered a first-person shooter. Also, a racing game. And a car combat game. And an open-world adventure. A collectible card came, too. Lastly, it's practically every piece of apocalyptic science fiction we have known to date tossed into a blender, set to puree, poured onto a disc, and spread evenly over a seemingly lengthy and elaborate single-player adventure.

In short, Rage is a kitchen sink kind of game, the kind so often labeled as "missed potential" due to a lack of focus on any one particular aspect. I don't think Rage will garner any such labels. If anything, I was shocked how well-put-together all those seemingly disparate aspects of the game seemed to be. Then again, after so many years in development, one does tend to hope for a certain level of polish. And that's certainly what I'd call those first few hours of Rage: polished, almost to a glistening sheen. While that gleaming quality might not jive with the filthy, destitute vibe the game aims to put on, it does perpetuate the notion that Rage really is a kind of labor of love for id--and not in that Duke Nukem Forever, "What the hell are we doing still working on this goddamn thing?" kind of way either.

Oh, and I suppose I should mention it's also pretty damned fun. That's probably an important detail.

For those not up on the plot, Rage is about you, in silent protagonist form. In this case, you're one of the lucky ones chosen to dwell within an Ark--a sort of hyper-sleep/cryostasis chamber--as an asteroid comes crashing to earth to obliterate everything we hold dear. When you awake from your presumably lengthy sleep, it's apparent from the get-go that something has gone terribly wrong. The other stasis chambers in your Ark are powered off, and your colleagues are little more than shriveled up mummies. Wandering out into the blinding sunlight after listening to a little pre-recorded message from your former President, you find yourself in a barren desert canyon, and immediately attacked by ravenous, snarling, ghostly pale bandits. Fortunately, a fortuitous rescuer named Dan Hagar (voiced by, of all people, John Goodman) happens to be driving around nearby, and picks off the few bandits from the safety of his tricked out apocalyptobuggy (not the actual name of the vehicle).

All that is about five to ten minutes, tops, and already in there, I count about a half-dozen references to post-apocalyptic films and games of old. Perhaps some are purposeful, others purely coincidental, but it's emblematic of how much an apocalyptic melange Rage's world comes off as. I don't mean that insultingly, as there is a fully-realized world here, filled with strange and diverse characters. It's just that a lot of that world feels, at the very least, inspired by things you've likely seen before.

Without getting into a lengthy blow-by-blow of every plot point I encountered over a three-hour period, I'll simply say that upon your rescue, you may be shocked to learn that you, the silent protagonist, are Special. By that, I mean that you are like many other silent protagonists, in that you are uniquely equipped to deal with the various threats of this particular wasteland due to some manner of enhanced awesomeness. Though it's not spelled out in the early goings of the game, allusions are made to Ark survivors having nanotechnology swimming around inside their cells which gives them special abilities. Early on though, those special abilities mostly amount to a propensity toward killing angry, murderous mutants.

Unsurprisingly, Dan and his band of survivors (who are holed up in an abandoned gas station) need precisely that kind of help. Multiple factions exist in this world, including several groups of bandits that each have their own distinct ethos' and methodologies. Early in the game you're really only going up against the lower bandit groups, who, while rowdy and generally idiotic, are no less dangerous for it. You're also periodically running into mutants, more rabid versions of the bandits that don't really use weapons, but are perfectly capable of tearing your face off if you cross them. Apart from the bandits and the mutants, there is also The Authority, who are not seen at all in the initial goings, but is often spoken about in hushed tones. Their role in the game is as a sort of draconian force aimed at restoring law and order, though given the way other survivors speak of them, their idea of law is not one that coincides with that of those outside of the Authority's ranks.

But before you can get to any of that, like a good fish-out-of-water-in-a-world-they-cannot-possibly-understand, you establish yourself by working as an errand boy. Dan, along with other survivors will give you tasks that help you get your feet wet within the world, and introduce you to both the game's combat system, as well as its driving system.

Combat is a mixture of gunplay and other, specialized weapons that can be especially useful in the right situations. The first one you get is a sort of bladed boomerang (The Feral Kid, anyone?) that's great for beheading mutants and bandits when they're caught unawares. Like the ammo for your guns, these special weapons do come in limited supply, so a balance of gunplay and special weapon attacks is the best recipe for success.

You start the game with a typically mediocre pistol that requires about a gajillion shots to down even the most useless enemy, but in a rare twist, that pistol actually becomes a welcome ally long before you even get your next gun. Each gun in Rage comes with multiple ammo types, and the second you get one of those upgraded bullets, that pistol instantly becomes one of your favorite weapons, as suddenly you're blowing away guys in one or two shots (provided they aren't heavy with armor) and sending them flying in the process. You can keep stashes of all the different ammo types on you at all times, but you'll need to manually switch to a different bullet type should you need to go to something heavier.

Gunplay in Rage is easily its most attractive feature. Between the pistol, shotgun, assault rifle, and sniper rifle I picked up over the course of my few hours of play, not to mention the varying types of ammo for each, blasting away at the various nasty elements of the wasteland were easily the highlight of my playtime. By no means has id reinvented the first-person gun here, but each weapon has a strong, satisfying feel to it, and the enemies I encountered featured varying tactics that created a bit of dynamism to each gunfight. For instance, amid the bandits, you'll sometimes find yourself going up against grunts that use a bit of parkour to bounce off walls and duck underneath objects to avoid your gunfire, while wielding nasty swords and running straight toward you. Others, equipped with guns, tend to hang back. Shooting these guys a couple of times injures them gravely, but they don't immediately die. They'll start blind firing at you until you finally put them down for good. While I wouldn't call the enemy AI I encountered overly complex or brilliant, I felt like the few fights I engaged in were properly challenging and satisfying.

While you will encounter enemies throughout the various in-between zones of the wasteland (not to mention the underground sewer system, which everyone seemed pretty keen to warn me away from), mostly it seems you'll find them in specific zones, which you'll really only travel to when assigned to do so by one of the friendlies in the game's various safe havens. Over the course of my play time, I encountered two smaller settlements (including Dan's meager group), as well as the relatively huge town of Wellspring, full of gambling establishments, bars, shops, and anything else a traveler might need. All these different zones are full of NPC characters hot to task you with everything from repair missions to scout missions to straight up kill missions.

The nice thing is that, like a role-playing game, you can take on multiple missions at once. You can only have one specifically active mission at a time, but you can swap between active missions on the fly. The story itself, despite its open world leanings, appears a fairly linear affair, but there are a good number of side missions and ventures to take on as well, some of which come directly from other characters, and others which are posted on a job board in the town of Wellspring.

Side ventures aren't relegated to non-stop shooting, either. There are ample things to do in the various towns to pass the time, should you want to take a break from the misery and death of the world outside the walls of human civilization, such as it is. In Wellspring, you can use loot plucked off the various bad guys to buy and sell new items and weapons (there are shops in other cities to do this, as well), engage in a bit of gambling with a collectible card game (with surprisingly fleshed-out rules and mechanics, I might add), take a job as a courier, if that strikes your fancy, and even spend a little time working on your vehicle, both to fight the bandits outside the walls, and rival racers within.

Vehicles play a huge part in Rage. They're your major mode of transportation through the wasteland, as well as your primary defense mechanism against attack. When driving around, bandits and other enemies will periodically pop up in rival vehicles, looking to kill you dead. Early on you start out with a relatively crappy ATV, but over time you'll be able to upgrade, outfitting your new vehicles with stronger shielding and weapons. By the time I dropped by controller, I had tricked out a dune buggy with some stronger parts and heat-seeking rockets, which made taking out the various baddies out to get me quite a bit easier.

In addition to being a method of transportation, vehicles are also required should you want to engage in a race. A carnival barker in Wellspring hosts a number of tournaments, which can earn you everything from cold, hard cash to new vehicles and upgrades. These run the gamut from simple time trials to straight up combat races, with blow up or get blown up type rules.

Of all the various aspects of Rage I experienced throughout my play time, the vehicular elements felt the least cohesive. That's not to say they're bad, but by and large, there was something about the cars that just felt...a little off. The developers at id are definitely going for a more arcadey feel to the vehicles, something akin to Burnout or MotorStorm, which is certainly reasonable for a game that's more about vehicular combat than tight racing mechanics. Still, both in races and when driving around the wasteland, the floaty, twitchy nature of the cars kept bugging me. On the plus side, there are few things more satisfying than launching a well timed rocket at some bandit bastard looking to take you out, and watching them explode in a massive fireball--and that does seem to happen reasonably often.

I suppose at some point I should talk about how gorgeous Rage looks, though I almost feel like that's unnecessary, in a way. An id game looking great is a ubiquitous notion. It is simply understood. Still, the world of Rage looks great. Fantastic lighting, richly detailed environments, and expressive, fully-realized characters exist within this world. Occasionally you may catch yourself staring into the dead soul of some blank-eyed automaton that seems plucked from some post-apocalyptic version of Oblivion, but more often, you're encountering characters full of expression and personality.

It's worth noting that I was playing the Xbox 360 version of Rage. Obviously, id's primary focus is on the PC version of this title, and that's where you'll be seeing the greatest quantity of graphical bells and whistles. That said, the Xbox version is no slouch. It's top flight as graphics on this console system go, with only minimal framerate troubles or other hallmarks of console-oriented rejiggering noticeable at all. Straight up, it looks awesome.

I haven't even gotten into the multiplayer yet--specifically, because id wasn't showing it. An id shooter without a multiplayer experience might sound a bit like a meatless sandwich, but it's worth reiterating that Rage is, first and foremost, a single-player adventure. The multiplayer experience will be there for those who want it, and based on the feel of the shooting within the single-player world, I'm guessing it's going to be pretty fun, too. But with Rage, id is trying to create a fully realized world to explore and interact with, versus another corridor crawl full of monster closets and respawn points. The storytelling shows many trademark elements of an id game, but everything around that story appears a great deal more expansive than anything these guys have tried before.

I'm sure some will still balk at the notion of yet another first-person shooter set in yet another apocalyptic universe that tries yet again to do a few too many things. I know that, at various points in Rage's development cycle, I certainly did. That said, once you get your hands on Rage and begin to get a feel for its world and mechanics, all that pessimism pretty much flies out the window.

With only three hours of play under my belt, I can't say definitively if Rage is going to be a truly great shooter. All I can say is that I was pretty bummed when my time ran out. I wanted to keep playing, to experience more. In fact, a week later, I'm still anxious to do so. I'd take that as a positive sign. Wouldn't you?

It’s the weirdest Fallout: New Vegas DLC yet. I went back to the Mojave to pit my brains against the worst that 1950s B-Movie science has to offer. Is Old World Blues an enjoyable trip?

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I have been to the Zion National Park in Utah, but I don’t remember there being any muderous men with bandaged-wrapped faces, desert renegades being killed in slow-motion or weird naked masked dudes. It’s possible I just went to the wrong bit, though – I’m not very observant. Fortunately, the second spot of Fallout: New Vegas DLC means to address my errant tourism. It’s called Honest Hearts, it’s out May 17 (same day as the Witcher 2 and Fallout 3 – the gods of roleplaying can be so very cruel), and it goes a little something like this…(more…)

Times were an awful lot easier for Interplay back in 1998. A string of hit franchises, apparent sovereignty of the new RPG kingdom and, it appears, big, brassy enough cajones to start up a film division. While nothing much ever came of this, we now know that a Fallout movie was in the works, based on the first game. Whatever would it have been like? Let’s find out. (more…)

Come next week, many of you will begin your adventures in Fallout: New Vegas – attempting to explore every nook, cranny, and Vault found within in and around Mojave Wasteland. Before your journey begins, we thought we’d answer some last-minute questions sent by you via Facebook and Twitter.

I’m afraid it’s going to feel like DLC. Are there enough changes to make New Vegas feel unique from Fallout 3? (thanks @acsguitar)

We certainly think so! While the gameplay is similar, the world itself is very, very different. And our main storyline plays out in a very different manner, with several very different paths to completion.

Can we expect the same wasteland experience as in Fallout 3? I’m kinda scared about playing in a city untouched by atomic bombs! (thanks @The_iCroco)

Yes and no. There are some areas that were hit directly, but for the most part, the destruction you’ll see in the Mojave Wasteland is due to neglect, not bombardment. Don’t expect sprawling, fully functioning cities, though. The New Vegas strip is self-contained and tightly managed directly by Mr. House, so everything in the city works perfectly. As you get farther away from the strip, you’ll see more and more ruins and abandoned buildings.

Would love to know how they will create that WOW factor that Fallout 3 had: the wasteland, the bomb at Megaton and so on. Tricky!? (thanks@bekblayton)

We think there are some similarly cool WOW moments in our game, and you should find one in each act of the main storyline.

How difficult will it be to take care of physical needs like hydration, sleep, and so on? Is it going to be overbearing?

Those features are only in Hardcore Mode, so they’re optional. If you find they’re getting to be too much of a hassle, you can always turn it off (although you won’t get the Hardcore trophy if you do).

What can you tell us about the new Hardcore Mode?

Hardcore Mode can be turned on or off at any time, although if you want the Hardcore trophy, you have to turn it on when initially prompted and leave it that way all the way to the end of the game. When it’s on, players will have to eat, sleep, and drink water every day. In addition, ammo has weight, companions can die, Stimpaks heal over time, and damaged limbs can only be healed with a Doctor’s Bag.

While you can fast travel in Hardcore Mode, you can’t if the time it would take to get you there would result in the player dying from dehydration/exhaustion/starvation.

Will the shooting feel better than it did in Fallout 3? (thanks @DYLANmmc)

Obsidian has tweaked the real-time combat quite a bit from Fallout 3 to make it feel more natural for people who don’t want to use VATS all the time.

What’s the story with the Aim Down the Sight mechanic? And is Fallout: New Vegas still support first-person and third-person viewing modes?

First- and third-person modes are in, and we’ve tweaked the third-person camera to be a bit more useful. In first-person mode, iron sights can be used with most weapons. The only exceptions are ones like the Grenade Machine Gun that are enormous and fire from the hip, and guns that have an actual sight on them (like sniper rifles and weapons modded with a physical sight). You just hold down the button and the camera zooms to show the weapon’s iron sight instead of a crosshair. It’s very useful for combat outside of VATS mode.

How big is Fallout: New Vegas compared to Fallout 3? (thanks @maialideth)

It’s about the same size. If you thought Fallout 3 was big, you’ll find Fallout: New Vegas to be equally big.

How much install data will be needed for Fallout: New Vegas?

Fallout: New Vegas is a 5 GB install on PS3 that runs when you first launch the game.

One of my favorite things to do in Fallout 3 was scavenging homes and office buildings. Will we see many rural and urban areas for that? (thanks @JaylLaf)

Just like Fallout 3, our wasteland is littered with abandoned (and not-so-abandoned) locations for you to explore.

Will there be any Vaults to explore in New Vegas? (thanks @LewJ1196)

Yes there are! We have five different Vaults in the game. They serve as unique dungeons, and depending on what path you follow through the main storyline, you may have to venture into one of them to retrieve something.

I’m interested to know more about the music score that will be piped through our Pip Boys for New Vegas. Will there be more variety? (thanks @Peligrie)

We have three separate radio stations in Fallout: New Vegas. There’s New Vegas Radio, which has the kind of songs you’ve come to expect from a Fallout game – hosted by Mr. New Vegas (voiced by Wayne Newton). Then there’s Black Mountain Radio, which is more classic country-focused. And finally there’s Mojave Music Radio, which is similar to NVR, only without the news stories from Mr. New Vegas.

Of course that’s just the radio. If you never turn on the radio at all, you’ll be treated to a new score by Inon Zur, featuring a string quartet, samples from past Fallout games, and some very cool location-specific themes.

Will New Vegas have a Good/Evil/Neutral decision path like Fallout 3? (thanks @Reumaut)

Karma still exists, and affects some things, but for the most part our decisions are determined more by the new reputation system, which tracks how the various factions in the game feel about you.

Will the Brotherhood of Steel be present in Fallout: New Vegas? I know in Fallout 3, the “original” BoS was based near California. (thanks @SCZ_PS3)

The Brotherhood of Steel is in Fallout: New Vegas, but not nearly as much as they were in Fallout 3. The west coast BoS was really hit hard following the events of Fallout 1 & 2, so they’re not nearly as important as the NCR is in the region.

Will there be any Fallout 2 characters make an appearance in Fallout: New Vegas? (thanks @Vi9)

Yes! We’ve already confirmed Marcus from Fallout 2 is coming back, and will again be voiced by Michael Dorn. As for anyone else, you’ll just have to wait for the game to see for yourself.

Can I still force materials inside the pants of enemies? If so, what explosive additions have you made? (thanks @Foxification)

Yep, you can still pickpocket grenades into people’s pockets. Even better is that now you can pickpocket plastic explosives into people’s pants! For some fun, drop some C4 into a few random people, equip the detonator, stand back and pull the trigger. It never gets old.

Will there any kind of transportation?

Aside from fast-travel, we do have a monorail that will take you directly to the strip from Camp McCarran (assuming you’re friendly with the NCR).

Can we continue playing after the main quest line ends?

No. Instead, Fallout: New Vegas has a real ending, that shows the results of your actions throughout the game and how they affected the different factions, locations and people you encountered.

Are you still able to make a female character?

Absolutely!

Do you plan on including many DLC add-ons for Fallout: New Vegas, as Fallout 3 did? (thanks @VGNtertainment)

We’re not really going into specifics on DLC, but we have a plan, and we think it’s a good one. You should hear more about it soon.

What’s the initial level cap.. and will DLC be exclusive to one console or another for any amount of time? (thanks @keeponrunning)

The level cap for Fallout: New Vegas is 30. As mentioned previously, we’re not discussing the details of downloadable content right now. Stay tuned!

Will there be a demo to try Fallout: New Vegas? (thanks @RichLando)

There’s no demo planned for the game.. We wanted the focus to be completing the full game and making it the best game it could be.

Thanks again for all the great questions. We hope you enjoy your stay in the Mojave Wasteland!