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jacking off Small Sammer Guy
Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 12146
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 7:45 am
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1. Like people said, move more serious plots to RP, and for very random/short plot, stays in RPOT. Plots that gets only like 2-3 replies, like mine. But when someone (lets say MsDevin) posts a plot in RPOT, it gets 2 pages or so. How about if a plot in RPOT gets at least two pages, moves to RP. Of course, put more plots in RP.
2. Jr. and Crump are already hard and serious. But as for the other mods, agreed. What bugs me is that when someone posts something that could be done in 10 minutes, its an instant cookie. Its "epic". When a beautiful art is made in like 3 days in YC, it gets ignored :[
3. Then expand gaming forum. Have more sticky. Less fad, make it happen.
4. This only applies to some mods. They should treat everyone the same, like teachers. Teachers treat everyone equally and punishes everyone the same. They are purely unbiased. Also, fads should be striekd if it goes out of hand.
5. I don't care about this one.
6. HEY! Last time I checked, drama was against the rules outside of blogs! The rule states any drama outside of blogs WILL BE DELETED. Yet, I stll see the drama lets say....in GD. Whats up with that? And any extreme drama in blogs shall be locked. A few months ago blogs was FILLED with drama, but things are calming down now. So its okay.
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Mister I Almaz
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 19527
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:15 am
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1.) I see where you're going with this. But...no. The community...excuse me, the mass congregation of random morons, from what I'm taking is your point of view, is not ready for that. I see how some people want to migrate back to Role-Play in that instance, leaving RPOT back to its original purpose. However, there's a very high chance...let's say 75%...that all this will call is chaos, drama, and "NOOOO! BRING RPOT BAAAAACK!". Really, until digibutter, as a site, can accept plots and not just flame and modplot them down, we're not ready for RPOT to go down.
And this is coming from the person who pretty much established the standard for digibutter role-play, basic plot twists, etc. Nothing I want to see more than RP revived, but...meh, I just don't really see it happening...
2.) That's true. Alright, I see your point, we can agree on that.
3.) Role-play...kinda stinks in continuity. That's what all role-play is like, even if you send it back to the regular RP forum. Off-topic...well, posting videos and stoof is why it was made in the first place. Getting rid of both...see the first paragraph in #1, replace with OT accordingly.
4.) Though this is ideal, it isn't going to happen. It's human nature to favor others, even teachers (I know, I'm the one favored. ^^). Anyway, a few hours in jail didn't do anyone here any good; those who are pretty good members just struggling will continue to be good, and the asshats will continue to act as such. And everyone in between follow corresponding roles. You can ask them to try, but mods are automatically going to be biased, reguardless of how efficient they are. That's why we have report buttons as well...>_>
5.) Watch the South Park Movie again. *crag* is the worst word that you can say, and most little children and overprotective parents would cry upon seeing it. Other words are shown to see extremes, but not in the established extreme that *crag* is the ultimate evil. And, as Francis said, we aren't Neopets.
6.) ...
We've gotten away from that, and all it's done is brought us irreversible indifference, squabbles, and pain.
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Alright, so, in summation, with the exception of 2, none of these changes can occur until the members of digibutter raise their own standard. Simple as that. |
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PEPSIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! Cherry Vampire
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 22614
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:01 pm
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Popple responds to Francis' comments as such:
| The World's Best Sniper wrote: | You say these things Francis, but if you look in Feedback you will see many people agree with me on a lot of my points.
You say you know what the community wants, but do you?
Do you know what it really needs?
I realize you are never one, and I can understand why.
But even if you are the admin, I have been on your site for a larger sum of time then you, and most of Digibutter.
I watch, I read, and perhaps I do inject some of my own desires into my comments,
But is the proof not there?
I know RPOT is there for a reason, but we don't need it when we have RP.
A lot of members hate the spam that overlaps their serious topics, but don't go in RP because no one goes there.
Spam is definable, you just have to be broad. As I said, an image you found on 4chan with no text is spam. Blank posts are spam. Meaningless text that does not inspire conversation is spam.
Just because you are the mod squad are too lazy to make a set rule list is no fault of mine.
GAMING IS NOT A HUGE ASPECT OF THIS FORUM
I can understand the Paper Mario forum, but why the others for specific games? I realize there are a lot of Nintendo fans here, but those forums don't last more than a few months after release.
Why not a dedicated Sony forum, a dedicated Microsoft forum?
Why not encourage game discussion in a more convincing way.
Shit Fads are the only ones that must be fought, Bandwagons if you will. Like todays UNEXPECTED flood. There is no reason that those should not have all been locked and striked.
They were spam and nothing else.
The mods are not thorough, I believe most of them do not make rounds. Good mods do not require reports. Good mods read as many topics as possible. We do not have good mods sir, we have sub-par mods.
You don't understand my problems with censor? Every time I post a *crag* comic with the word F U C K it gets striked. But I can say Shit. I can say *crag*, I can say Erection. I can say "I Ass *cragged* That Slutty Whore."
When you have this many members, we do not need *crag* drama because it just spreads. You've seen it's effects yet you refuse to eliminate it. You just find ways around it like this stupid ass drama report that no one uses.
I have never had retorts for you Francis, because I respect you as a leader. Your followers are loyal and unwavering. But it's time someone stood up and said you are wrong.
The members agree with me, the same members you say you know whats best for. Perhaps I do inject some of my own desires into my feedback, but you yourself are the one who defends the mods. Saying that it's not there fault that they are all different. That they inject their own opinions of people into their work.
So why not me? Am I not granted this same right?
I am.
I have spent hours on this forum. Days upon days, Months upon months, time spent in this forum alone.
You may be a better programmer then I am, you may be a better admin, and you may be more mature.
But I know this community, I am part of this community.
I know these people, and they support these ideas.
I will now for the first time state these words, bold faced and without hesitation.
You Francis, Admin and Founder of Digibutter.nerr.biz, are utterly and completely wrong about your own community. |
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That rich guy Pure-??? Vampire
Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 9560
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:05 pm
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It's true. When I read that second quote, my jaw dropped a couple times, but I never disagreed.
I want all of this to happen. I've been here For almost the entire span of this site, and you know what, I agree with him.
I have long since Boycotted RPOT and OT because they are stupid, have nothing worth reading and have gotten way out of hand. I'm serious. I agree. And mister I, you're right. removing RPOT would cause chaos. but it would pass. people would stop complaining. they would move on. They would migrate. maybe the old RP could be revived with some luck and effort. Maybe we could get some of the newer members into it. And everyone, eveyr last one of you. I want you to go back and read those original topics. those days were the best. it was all one plot. WE didn't have 50 random stories that needed to be followed at once. we had one. and it was amazing. |
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Mister I Almaz
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 19527
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:12 pm
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Those were good days. Good, fun days, where everything fit together like a perfect puzzle. But those days are gone. The pieces are more difficult to put together, but still can. But we still need some instructions, so we can't throw away the box just yet.
And...if the last plot, the last three months here, and blognerr has taught me anything, it's that people are pissed off by change. Anything different happens, and they hate it, and will flame it to death until it goes away. Really, I've just lost faith, not in the site, but in the community as a whole. I don't want to get away from the community aspect, everything about this forum feels like crap otherwise. |
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Tails Doll
Joined: 04 Jun 2007 Posts: 30513
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:27 pm
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I'm with Pure ???, Popple, and Mr.I. I've read the older roleplay topics. They were fun, relaxed, laid-back posts, just like the rest of the site. There was no anger, there was no hate, just fun and whatnot. Those times have passed, but we can still make the site better, one bit at a time. |
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Mister I Almaz
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 19527
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:34 pm
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Maybe I've just hardened and grown cold with the times...I don't know...but...I just don't feel like I'm ready to trust digibutter as a community to handle that kind of a huge change...ugh... |
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That rich guy Pure-??? Vampire
Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 9560
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:39 pm
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| Mister I wrote: | | Maybe I've just hardened and grown cold with the times...I don't know...but...I just don't feel like I'm ready to trust digibutter as a community to handle that kind of a huge change...ugh... |
We can give it a shot. what's there to lose? The old RP is gone right now, so what can we lose from trying? |
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Yoshi Vampire
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 12475
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Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2008 9:04 pm
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RPOT isn't going anywhere. I admit to being an RpoTard. Why? Because I don't give a *crag* |
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~A color is just a color~ Frozenwinters
Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 25292
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:59 pm
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| Pure-??? wrote: | It's true. When I read that second quote, my jaw dropped a couple times, but I never disagreed.
I want all of this to happen. I've been here For almost the entire span of this site, and you know what, I agree with him.
I have long since Boycotted RPOT and OT because they are stupid, have nothing worth reading and have gotten way out of hand. I'm serious. I agree. And mister I, you're right. removing RPOT would cause chaos. but it would pass. people would stop complaining. they would move on. They would migrate. maybe the old RP could be revived with some luck and effort. Maybe we could get some of the newer members into it. And everyone, eveyr last one of you. I want you to go back and read those original topics. those days were the best. it was all one plot. WE didn't have 50 random stories that needed to be followed at once. we had one. and it was amazing. | I usually don't quote people and say "this", but, this is totally how I feel. |
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See? Popple
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 14001
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:14 pm
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Feancis said in jail that people who bitch about problems that don't exist are worse than the problems, which apparently don't exist.
So apparently our opinions are meaningless in the eyes of Francis.
Lock this thread plx. |
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That rich guy Pure-??? Vampire
Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 9560
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:34 pm
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| The World's Best Sniper wrote: | Feancis said in jail that people who bitch about problems that don't exist are worse than the problems, which apparently don't exist.
So apparently our opinions are meaningless in the eyes of Francis.
Lock this thread plx. |
That's... irritating.
Too bad really, I would love to see every last one of those implemented. |
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Elite Nerr Francis

Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 6974
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:33 pm
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| The World's Best Sniper wrote: | Feancis said in jail that people who bitch about problems that don't exist are worse than the problems, which apparently don't exist.
So apparently our opinions are meaningless in the eyes of Francis.
Lock this thread plx. |
"bitch" would be the key-word there.
An opinion is only meaningless if it is stated as fact without any reasoning to back it up. |
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THE BIRTHDAY GIRL King Harkinian Burning
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 5620
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Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:45 pm
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