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ERECTIN' A DICK Miku Hatsune Vampire
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 13497
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:11 pm
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There is no point in suicide since, even though it may not feel like it, things will eventually get better. I mean, we don't truly know if there is a heaven or hell, and if there isn't then you have killed yourself for no reason. |
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oar Super Maiq the Liar
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 17919
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:20 pm
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You are not them. You have no right to say "things will get better."
It is wrong for them to think this way, yes, but you cannot just say "Oh it's alright" and fix their lives. |
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PEPSIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! Cherry Vampire
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 22614
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:21 pm
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If you killed yourself, it's still killing. Suicide is a crime and a sin.
You wouldn't get in heaven anyway. |
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CFH Ligador
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 5136
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:21 pm
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This philosophy doesn't work, not because it's right or wrong, but because someone that really is suicidal won't change their minds if you say that or whine at them aloud to not do it.
And also, if they are attn whoring, which is expectable much, you are playing their game only. |
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oar Super Maiq the Liar
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 17919
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:23 pm
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| CFH wrote: | This philosophy doesn't work, not because it's right or wrong, but because someone that really is suicidal won't change their minds if you say that or whine at them aloud to not do it.
And also, if they are attn whoring, which is expectable much, you are playing their game only. |
Several of the people here aren't the kind who would joke about these things. Nassy and Jolene are far from the kind who would just say "Ima kil myself lolol got ur attn yet?" M'aiq has been trying to treat this very seriously, but it's becoming too much for him too handle. |
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CFH Ligador
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 5136
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:25 pm
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| Maiq the Liar wrote: | | CFH wrote: | This philosophy doesn't work, not because it's right or wrong, but because someone that really is suicidal won't change their minds if you say that or whine at them aloud to not do it.
And also, if they are attn whoring, which is expectable much, you are playing their game only. |
Several of the people here aren't the kind who would joke about these things. Nassy and Jolene are far from the kind who would just say "Ima kil myself lolol got ur attn yet?" M'aiq has been trying to treat this very seriously, but it's becoming too much for him too handle. | First off, I only mentioned attn whoring as a possibility. Additionally, attn whores try to make the emo-ness look as realistic as possible. |
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ERECTIN' A DICK Miku Hatsune Vampire
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 13497
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:26 pm
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| Maiq the Liar wrote: | You are not them. You have no right to say "things will get better."
It is wrong for them to think this way, yes, but you cannot just say "Oh it's alright" and fix their lives. | Things will get better. I've seen it a lot. And I was one of them once. I was abused when I was little. Things always get better. It may take a while but it happens. And I agree Tssg3. |
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CFH Ligador
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 5136
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:31 pm
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| Petey Piranha wrote: | | Maiq the Liar wrote: | You are not them. You have no right to say "things will get better."
It is wrong for them to think this way, yes, but you cannot just say "Oh it's alright" and fix their lives. | Things will get better. I've seen it a lot. And I was one of them once. I was abused when I was little. Things always get better. It may take a while but it happens. And I agree Tssg3. | No. There is no guaraentee they will. Not if you lie on your butt and wait for it to get better. You can try to MAKE it better. And you can still fail at that.
And, once again, people that really are suicidal never listen to things like that. |
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~A color is just a color~ Frozenwinters
Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 25292
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:40 pm
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| CFH wrote: | | Maiq the Liar wrote: | | CFH wrote: | This philosophy doesn't work, not because it's right or wrong, but because someone that really is suicidal won't change their minds if you say that or whine at them aloud to not do it.
And also, if they are attn whoring, which is expectable much, you are playing their game only. |
Several of the people here aren't the kind who would joke about these things. Nassy and Jolene are far from the kind who would just say "Ima kil myself lolol got ur attn yet?" M'aiq has been trying to treat this very seriously, but it's becoming too much for him too handle. | First off, I only mentioned attn whoring as a possibility. Additionally, attn whores try to make the emo-ness look as realistic as possible. | You're an idiot. |
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ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA Francine
Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 8580
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:42 pm
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You've probably never truly and honestly considered suicide. You cannot make such a profound statement. |
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ERECTIN' A DICK Miku Hatsune Vampire
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 13497
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:42 pm
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| Frozenwinters wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | Maiq the Liar wrote: | | CFH wrote: | This philosophy doesn't work, not because it's right or wrong, but because someone that really is suicidal won't change their minds if you say that or whine at them aloud to not do it.
And also, if they are attn whoring, which is expectable much, you are playing their game only. |
Several of the people here aren't the kind who would joke about these things. Nassy and Jolene are far from the kind who would just say "Ima kil myself lolol got ur attn yet?" M'aiq has been trying to treat this very seriously, but it's becoming too much for him too handle. | First off, I only mentioned attn whoring as a possibility. Additionally, attn whores try to make the emo-ness look as realistic as possible. | You're an idiot. | So true. |
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ROW ROW FIGHT THE POWA Francine
Joined: 30 May 2007 Posts: 8580
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:44 pm
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Actually, people do cause self harm and go around saying, "I am going to kill myself," for attention. I've seen it happen, and I'm simply disgusted. |
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SuperYoshi3 Super ronery pirrow Vampire
Joined: 17 Oct 2007 Posts: 9503
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:46 pm
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| Francine wrote: | | Actually, people do cause self harm and go around saying, "I am going to kill myself," for attention. I've seen it happen, and I'm simply disgusted. | Same |
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I AM TAYL Mona
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 19351
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 5:52 pm
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| smashbro wrote: | | Francine wrote: | | Actually, people do cause self harm and go around saying, "I am going to kill myself," for attention. I've seen it happen, and I'm simply disgusted. | Same |
Me too.
If you're going to say you're going to commit suicide, at least mean it, whether you're actually going to do it, or are considering it. Don't just do it to get attention.
I still disagree with suicide...even though I contemplated it myself back when I had depression. I understand why people do it. If they want to commit suicide, and they're very serious about it, then there really isn't much you can do to persuade them out if it. Not everyone has such a wonderful life. Some people have to suffer through every little day, and they just want to escape their misery, no matter what the cost. That's just the way life is for some people. |
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CFH Ligador
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 5136
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Posted: Sat Feb 16, 2008 6:15 pm
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| Petey Piranha wrote: | | Frozenwinters wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | Maiq the Liar wrote: | | CFH wrote: | This philosophy doesn't work, not because it's right or wrong, but because someone that really is suicidal won't change their minds if you say that or whine at them aloud to not do it.
And also, if they are attn whoring, which is expectable much, you are playing their game only. |
Several of the people here aren't the kind who would joke about these things. Nassy and Jolene are far from the kind who would just say "Ima kil myself lolol got ur attn yet?" M'aiq has been trying to treat this very seriously, but it's becoming too much for him too handle. | First off, I only mentioned attn whoring as a possibility. Additionally, attn whores try to make the emo-ness look as realistic as possible. | You're an idiot. | So true. | Ha, ha, ha.
Countless times I got flamed at, but no reason attached to it.
To not derail the thread, though, everyone's got their problems, and it's just a matter how you solve them. You don't have to go suicidal just because you can't figure out how. |
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