Trolling
1 If weighing actions by consequences is the defining feature of master morality and weighing actions by intentions is the defining feature of slave morality, are trolls--specifically, those who value arguments that are intentionally stupid--slaves?
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because you're really not very good at it
Why are you being so... arrogant? You strut about as if you own the place, and we're just trolls under your foot.
You're so adverse to trolls that you've become a strange form of troll yourself.
thank you for saying what i didn't know how to word
grievous was around at the same time as dimenciao though
Oookay lets just forget about this before this turns into another psuedo-philisophical debate. Here, have some tmnt.
leonardo is the best and anyone else who thinks different is stupid
Opinions exist to be destroyed! It's how we've made all progress as a species; through argument, we discover which opinions are worthy, and which are utter crap. Hahaha, cries of "elitism." Inferiority complex, much?
"They consequences of the path you follow, I've already felt. Rejection, anger, and heartbreak might all follow you unquietly to your grave."
Being a visionary, I will impose my will upon the masses. Rejection is not a thing that I fear. Anger is perfectly healthy, and fuels my lust for conquest. I am above heartbreak. And as for "the grave," I fully intend on existing forever.
"Why are you being so... arrogant? You strut about as if you own the place, and we're just trolls under your foot."
If by arrogance you mean a lack of humility, it's because humility is a sign of the weak. This is basic Nietzsche, dude.
"You're so adverse to trolls that you've become a strange form of troll yourself."
Gods are above petty trolling.
>self proclaiming you're a god while sucking off Nietzche's philosophy
Why does every college student in the arts end up like this?
Opinions exist so that we may debate, not so we can scream "I'M RIGHT NOW SHUT UP BECAUSE YOUR OPINION SUCKS!"
"Being a visionary, I will impose my will on the masses. Rejection is not something that I fear."
Those 2 sentences don't go together. How can you impose your will on the masses if the masses reject your will? It's hard, if not impossible.
"Anger is pefectly healthy, and fuels my lust for conquest."
From both a physical and mental health point, anger is not actually healthy. It strains the heart, brain, and often the abdominal muscles. King Lear went insane due to his anger at his daughters. As for your "lust for conquest", the end of that path lies in the middle of an angry mob with a noose around your neck.
"I fully intend on existing forever"
Ha.... no really, you will die. To deny it is to say you are invulnerable. What would happen if someone were to cut out your brain? What if you have a heart attack or get hit by a semi truck?
"humility is for the weak."
To be unforgiving takes some strength. But to humble one's self takes courage and strength in amounts you will never obtain. He who has no humility deserves to be stripped of all titles and thrown to the street.
"Gods are above petty trolling."
Indeed God is, but you are but a man, nay, a disgusting, base, proud, shallow, foolish, ignorant worm.
man I wish I could have cool roof cook outs in the city with me and my ninja mutant friends dude that'd be hype as hell
also yes nas he told me himself he is dimenciao
"Opinions exist so that we may debate, not so we can scream "I'M RIGHT NOW SHUT UP BECAUSE YOUR OPINION SUCKS!""
Which I've done nothing of the sort. If you've noticed, every time I've debated and subsequently destroyed an opinion, I've done so in an analytical, logical fashion. I simply savour the victory, hence the gloating.
"Those 2 sentences don't go together. How can you impose your will on the masses if the masses reject your will? It's hard, if not impossible."
You misunderstand. My will *is not being* rejected; at least among the nobles and the common man. The only individuals who reject my will without a worthy challenge are the subhumans, who are content with their mediocrity.
"From both a physical and mental health point, anger is not actually healthy. It strains the heart, brain, and often the abdominal muscles. King Lear went insane due to his anger at his daughters. As for your "lust for conquest", the end of that path lies in the middle of an angry mob with a noose around your neck."
Some inferioroids are incapable of utilizing anger to accomplish their own goals. I, however, am not. The path of the Ubermensch does not end with an angry mob and a noose, but with glory, and a universe shaped to the Ubermensch's will.
"What would happen if someone were to cut out your brain?" All the more reason to become powerful, and untouchable. "What if you have a heart attack or get hit by a semi truck?"
With transhumanism/human augmentation, these are not things to fear.
The thing is, Dimenciao, is that you are seemingly perfectly content with living and dying as a nameless animal, never striving for anything higher in life. This is the dangerous, nihilistic mentality that the subhumans are trying to impose upon the masses. Adopting my worldview--to shape yourself into a god--will lead you to a much happier, healthier existence.
Party on the roof guys come on up
oooh something stinks in this thread, wonder what it is.
Show me evidence of this. Your will sems to be some sort of hive mind with you as its leader. Who are the nobles and common folk, hm? Are they the members of your "superior" cult which no one knows of?
"The path of the Ubermensch ends not with a noose, but with glory, and a universe bent to the ubermensch's will"
"The path of the ubermensch", as you call it, is your way of attempting to escape the reality that you will never hold influence over anyone. How do you expect to control the universe if you don't have the power?
"Transhumanism/Human Augmentation/Untouchable"
How will you achieve these things, hm? Through mysticism and odd practices? What is your method, your belief?
I have not settled for life and death as a nameless animal. While you run around proclaiming yourself a god, I plan to better mankind as a species. Eradicate disease, improve our abilities and foods, and stop misery in the world, all through genetics and microbiology. So you can have your "path of the ubermensch" and be a selfish, greedy, egotistical little naive. I, on the other hand, will work to better all of us, not just myself.
Show me evidence of this. Your will sems to be some sort of hive mind with you as its leader. Who are the nobles and common folk, hm? Are they the members of your "superior" cult which no one knows of?
"The path of the Ubermensch ends not with a noose, but with glory, and a universe bent to the ubermensch's will"
"The path of the ubermensch", as you call it, is your way of attempting to escape the reality that you will never hold influence over anyone. How do you expect to control the universe if you don't have the power?
"Transhumanism/Human Augmentation/Untouchable"
How will you achieve these things, hm? Through mysticism and odd practices? What is your method, your belief?
I have not settled for life and death as a nameless animal. While you run around proclaiming yourself a god, I plan to better mankind as a species. Eradicate disease, improve our abilities and foods, and stop misery in the world, all through genetics and microbiology. So you can have your "path of the ubermensch" and be a selfish, greedy, egotistical little naive. I, on the other hand, will work to better all of us, not just myself. "
FAGS STFU BEFORE I HAVE TO SMACK A NIGGA
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"Show me evidence of this. Your will sems to be some sort of hive mind with you as its leader. Who are the nobles and common folk, hm? Are they the members of your "superior" cult which no one knows of?"
My vision is of a universe where EVERYONE is a powerful being. I am simply the visionary spreading my will so that, hopefully, more will adopt it, and the inferioroids shall perish in time.
""The path of the ubermensch", as you call it, is your way of attempting to escape the reality that you will never hold influence over anyone. How do you expect to control the universe if you don't have the power?"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! You have thus illustrated that you are completely, hopelessly ignorant of Nietzschean philosophy and thus you really need to open up a book and educate yourself before challenging a genuine intellectual such as myself. You claim that "the path of the ubermensch" is attempting to escape reality, WHEN THE UBERMENSCH IS THE VERY EMBODIMENT OF THIS-WORLDLINESS!
"How will you achieve these things, hm? Through mysticism and odd practices? What is your method, your belief?"
"Mysticism and odd practices?" What? How could you possibly gain that from "transhumanism?" Do you even know what transhumanism is?!
"I have not settled for life and death as a nameless animal. While you run around proclaiming yourself a god, I plan to better mankind as a species. Eradicate disease, improve our abilities and foods, and stop misery in the world, all through genetics and microbiology. So you can have your "path of the ubermensch" and be a selfish, greedy, egotistical little naive. I, on the other hand, will work to better all of us, not just myself."
How do you expect to "help the world" WITHOUT striving to become a god? The ubermensch? Reality has demonstrated that only those who sought out power were able to chang the world, for better or worse! You can try to "better the world" without first seeking out a place for yourself, but I'll remind you of this very discussion when you find out all of your efforts have failed!
I've also noticed your careful avoidance of telling me how you intend to achieve all these things that you bring up. How do you expect to become a god? Where will all this power come from? How do you know transhumanist technologies will ever be invented in your lifetime?
Success does not require power or godliness. Look at Shigeru Miyamoto. He is successful, he's changed millions of lives, but he's still a nice, humble man. He did not strive to become a "god".
There are many other stories like his. The point is, Ni-whatever(I don't give a damn about his name, his teachings are meaningless) was WRONG. We are NOT destined to be gods, NONE of us are. The ubermensch is NOT reality itself, it's just something Nietzsche thought up so he could attempt to become God. You sicken me, Crump.
Nietzsche said "God is dead." Now God says "Nietzsche is dead."
...wait a minute. You try to debunk Nietzsche by claiming he's dead, and then you bring up Einstein? Who is also dead? HAHAHAHAHA! Plus, you're stating that I should look for philosophy and psychology from... a physicist? HAHAHAHAHA! Go to bed, child, before you hurt yourself.
"I've also noticed your careful avoidance of telling me how you intend to achieve all these things that you bring up. How do you expect to become a god? Where will all this power come from? How do you know transhumanist technologies will ever be invented in your lifetime?"
Transhumanist technologies will be invented within my lifetime; that goes without saying. Kurzweil is pretty spot-on with his predictions.
"Success does not require power or godliness. Look at Shigeru Miyamoto. He is successful, he's changed millions of lives, but he's still a nice, humble man. He did not strive to become a "god"."
Since when did "changing the world for the better" simply become "successful?" Shigeru Miyamoto, if you haven't noticed, was a video game designer, who made a few good games in the 80s and 90s and has been riding off the cashflow from the franchises he invented since. He didn't "change the world," as far as making life better for everyone is concerned. And despite his so-called "humility," he would have gotten NOWHERE without the AMBITION and WILL-TO-POWER to drive him. In short, you have no clue what you're talking about.
"There are many other stories like his. The point is, Ni-whatever(I don't give a damn about his name, his teachings are meaningless) was WRONG."
His teachings were "meaningless?" HAHAHAHA!
As for him being "wrong," well, you certainly haven't done anything to prove otherwise, and history stands pretty nicely against you.
"We are NOT destined to be gods, NONE of us are."
The will to power, the driving force behind all life, disagrees with you.
"The ubermensch is NOT reality itself, it's just something Nietzsche thought up so he could attempt to become God. You sicken me, Crump."
Hahaha. "Just something Nietzsche thought up?" You can think that. You've already proven you're fully devoted to slave morality and that your life is destined to be mediocre.
"Nietzsche said "God is dead." Now God says "Nietzsche is dead.""
Says someone who probably has no idea what was actually meant by "God is Dead," as evidenced by the random, senseless, and, most importantly, literal usage of that phrase.
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No shit
We already did that awhile ago, also I like how this is the perfect topic to use sage in but nobody still uses it.
but, *crag* you. :(