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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:20 am   Reply with quote

OK OK, I seem to understand this whole thing now.

I see the problem with you guys.

You are too *crag* picky.

Dude, just because most games for the Wii aren't... "meaty", like Cid stated, doesn't mean you can't have fun with it AT ALL WHATSOEVER. Maybe if you TRIED IT, MAYBE YOU COULD ENJOY IT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT IS.

Instead, you guys automatically stay away from most Wii games just because they're expanded to a family audience. Have you even payed attention to that anyways? They're broadened for everyone. Like stated before, you could have fun with it, despite it's duration.

I'm not saying to stick with Nintendo games; i'm actually expanding my horizons myself. All i'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, if you bother to TRY, you can just ignore the whole Casual VS Core and just enjoy gaming as a whole, despite how long you go on with it. Hell, you know what? I just started trying to clean this mess up, and i'm already tired of this shit. You guys can do whatever the *crag* you want, go ahead and whine about how Nintendo should stop being so "Casual". I don't give a *crag* anymore. Ugh, you people make me sick. -_-
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:13 am   Reply with quote

Sync wrote:
OK OK, I seem to understand this whole thing now.

I see the problem with you guys.

You are too *crag* picky.

Dude, just because most games for the Wii aren't... "meaty", like Cid stated, doesn't mean you can't have fun with it AT ALL WHATSOEVER. Maybe if you TRIED IT, MAYBE YOU COULD ENJOY IT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT IS.

Instead, you guys automatically stay away from most Wii games just because they're expanded to a family audience. Have you even payed attention to that anyways? They're broadened for everyone. Like stated before, you could have fun with it, despite it's duration.

I'm not saying to stick with Nintendo games; i'm actually expanding my horizons myself. All i'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, if you bother to TRY, you can just ignore the whole Casual VS Core and just enjoy gaming as a whole, despite how long you go on with it. Hell, you know what? I just started trying to clean this mess up, and i'm already tired of this shit. You guys can do whatever the *crag* you want, go ahead and whine about how Nintendo should stop being so "Casual". I don't give a *crag* anymore. Ugh, you people make me sick. -_-
That won't really do anything, They'll still just complain because they think that the world revolves around them and that Nintendo is their personal slave.°Д° ◉_◉ ʘﮯʘ
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 3:16 am   Reply with quote

Cuban Pete wrote:
Sync wrote:
OK OK, I seem to understand this whole thing now.

I see the problem with you guys.

You are too *crag* picky.

Dude, just because most games for the Wii aren't... "meaty", like Cid stated, doesn't mean you can't have fun with it AT ALL WHATSOEVER. Maybe if you TRIED IT, MAYBE YOU COULD ENJOY IT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT IS.

Instead, you guys automatically stay away from most Wii games just because they're expanded to a family audience. Have you even payed attention to that anyways? They're broadened for everyone. Like stated before, you could have fun with it, despite it's duration.

I'm not saying to stick with Nintendo games; i'm actually expanding my horizons myself. All i'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, if you bother to TRY, you can just ignore the whole Casual VS Core and just enjoy gaming as a whole, despite how long you go on with it. Hell, you know what? I just started trying to clean this mess up, and i'm already tired of this shit. You guys can do whatever the *crag* you want, go ahead and whine about how Nintendo should stop being so "Casual". I don't give a *crag* anymore. Ugh, you people make me sick. -_-
That won't really do anything, They'll still just complain because they think that the world revolves around them and that Nintendo is their personal slave.°Д° ◉_◉ ʘﮯʘ
Never said it would. Heck, i'm expecting more rants about how we're wrong if I continue, so I really don't think i'm coming back in this topic. I gave my 5 cents to this discussion; that's all I plan on doing.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:07 am   Reply with quote

Sync wrote:
OK OK, I seem to understand this whole thing now.

I see the problem with you guys.

You are too *crag* picky.


You don't see the problem at all. We're not picky; we expect a console that delivers a good number of decent games. Why should the Wii be allowed to lag far behind the 360 in terms of a quality library?

If you want me to expand on this, go over to the thread on Nintendo's creativeness where I responded to darkzero's "you're all selfish faggots" statement.

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Dude, just because most games for the Wii aren't... "meaty", like Cid stated, doesn't mean you can't have fun with it AT ALL WHATSOEVER. Maybe if you TRIED IT, MAYBE YOU COULD ENJOY IT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT IS.


I do try them, and they do suck. As I stated, Nintendo's problem is keeping up a good number of quality games. It's quantity over quality with them.

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Instead, you guys automatically stay away from most Wii games just because they're expanded to a family audience. Have you even payed attention to that anyways? They're broadened for everyone. Like stated before, you could have fun with it, despite it's duration.


...again, we're not going off about Nintendo because of their focus on a family audience. We're going off on Nintendo because they're making bad games, and allowing massive numbers of cheaply-made, trashy third-party games to appear on their consoles. Nintendo consoles used to have some sort of approval process to allow third-party games on their consoles; certain standards. Now, however, they'll openly allow games like Ninjabread Man on their console, to go alongside their shotty efforts such as Wii Play or Wii Music.

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I'm not saying to stick with Nintendo games; i'm actually expanding my horizons myself. All i'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, if you bother to TRY, you can just ignore the whole Casual VS Core and just enjoy gaming as a whole, despite how long you go on with


So, you're suggesting to us that we should forget that there is even such a thing as "quality" or a "good game," and pretend that there is no such thing as a bad game? Because I try alot of the Wii's bullcrap, and alot of it is just that: bullcrap.

Quote:
it. Hell, you know what? I just started trying to clean this mess up, and i'm already tired of this shit. You guys can do whatever the *crag* you want, go ahead and whine about how Nintendo should stop being so "Casual". I don't give a *crag* anymore. Ugh, you people make me sick. -_-


I could say the same thing about you: continue to tearfully support a console that is filling up with so many bad games over their few games. That is enough to make someone sick, as well.

Quote:
That won't really do anything, They'll still just complain because they think that the world revolves around them and that Nintendo is their personal slave.°Д° ◉_◉ ʘﮯʘ


Again, these arguements have no place in a logical debate.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:08 am   Reply with quote

I'd like to argue with all this: But I admit it. There are veyr few Wii games coming out that I want.

However, the same is true of all three systems. If I were to make a list of games I want to buy, I could count the list on one hand. For all of the 3, as a total.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:04 pm   Reply with quote

Cid wrote:
Sync wrote:
OK OK, I seem to understand this whole thing now.

I see the problem with you guys.

You are too *crag* picky.


You don't see the problem at all. We're not picky; we expect a console that delivers a good number of decent games. Why should the Wii be allowed to lag far behind the 360 in terms of a quality library?

If you want me to expand on this, go over to the thread on Nintendo's creativeness where I responded to darkzero's "you're all selfish faggots" statement.

Quote:
Dude, just because most games for the Wii aren't... "meaty", like Cid stated, doesn't mean you can't have fun with it AT ALL WHATSOEVER. Maybe if you TRIED IT, MAYBE YOU COULD ENJOY IT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT IS.


I do try them, and they do suck. As I stated, Nintendo's problem is keeping up a good number of quality games. It's quantity over quality with them.

Quote:
Instead, you guys automatically stay away from most Wii games just because they're expanded to a family audience. Have you even payed attention to that anyways? They're broadened for everyone. Like stated before, you could have fun with it, despite it's duration.


...again, we're not going off about Nintendo because of their focus on a family audience. We're going off on Nintendo because they're making bad games, and allowing massive numbers of cheaply-made, trashy third-party games to appear on their consoles. Nintendo consoles used to have some sort of approval process to allow third-party games on their consoles; certain standards. Now, however, they'll openly allow games like Ninjabread Man on their console, to go alongside their shotty efforts such as Wii Play or Wii Music.

Quote:
I'm not saying to stick with Nintendo games; i'm actually expanding my horizons myself. All i'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, if you bother to TRY, you can just ignore the whole Casual VS Core and just enjoy gaming as a whole, despite how long you go on with


So, you're suggesting to us that we should forget that there is even such a thing as "quality" or a "good game," and pretend that there is no such thing as a bad game? Because I try alot of the Wii's bullcrap, and alot of it is just that: bullcrap.

Quote:
it. Hell, you know what? I just started trying to clean this mess up, and i'm already tired of this shit. You guys can do whatever the *crag* you want, go ahead and whine about how Nintendo should stop being so "Casual". I don't give a *crag* anymore. Ugh, you people make me sick. -_-


I could say the same thing about you: continue to tearfully support a console that is filling up with so many bad games over their few games. That is enough to make someone sick, as well.

Quote:
That won't really do anything, They'll still just complain because they think that the world revolves around them and that Nintendo is their personal slave.°Д° ◉_◉ ʘﮯʘ


Again, these arguements have no place in a logical debate.
See? What did I tell you? Some idiot is going to try and argue with me.

You can shut up now. You obviously have some shit pride you want to protect, and I honestly don't care.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:09 pm   Reply with quote

Sync wrote:
Cid wrote:
Sync wrote:
OK OK, I seem to understand this whole thing now.

I see the problem with you guys.

You are too *crag* picky.


You don't see the problem at all. We're not picky; we expect a console that delivers a good number of decent games. Why should the Wii be allowed to lag far behind the 360 in terms of a quality library?

If you want me to expand on this, go over to the thread on Nintendo's creativeness where I responded to darkzero's "you're all selfish faggots" statement.

Quote:
Dude, just because most games for the Wii aren't... "meaty", like Cid stated, doesn't mean you can't have fun with it AT ALL WHATSOEVER. Maybe if you TRIED IT, MAYBE YOU COULD ENJOY IT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT IS.


I do try them, and they do suck. As I stated, Nintendo's problem is keeping up a good number of quality games. It's quantity over quality with them.

Quote:
Instead, you guys automatically stay away from most Wii games just because they're expanded to a family audience. Have you even payed attention to that anyways? They're broadened for everyone. Like stated before, you could have fun with it, despite it's duration.


...again, we're not going off about Nintendo because of their focus on a family audience. We're going off on Nintendo because they're making bad games, and allowing massive numbers of cheaply-made, trashy third-party games to appear on their consoles. Nintendo consoles used to have some sort of approval process to allow third-party games on their consoles; certain standards. Now, however, they'll openly allow games like Ninjabread Man on their console, to go alongside their shotty efforts such as Wii Play or Wii Music.

Quote:
I'm not saying to stick with Nintendo games; i'm actually expanding my horizons myself. All i'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, if you bother to TRY, you can just ignore the whole Casual VS Core and just enjoy gaming as a whole, despite how long you go on with


So, you're suggesting to us that we should forget that there is even such a thing as "quality" or a "good game," and pretend that there is no such thing as a bad game? Because I try alot of the Wii's bullcrap, and alot of it is just that: bullcrap.

Quote:
it. Hell, you know what? I just started trying to clean this mess up, and i'm already tired of this shit. You guys can do whatever the *crag* you want, go ahead and whine about how Nintendo should stop being so "Casual". I don't give a *crag* anymore. Ugh, you people make me sick. -_-


I could say the same thing about you: continue to tearfully support a console that is filling up with so many bad games over their few games. That is enough to make someone sick, as well.

Quote:
That won't really do anything, They'll still just complain because they think that the world revolves around them and that Nintendo is their personal slave.°Д° ◉_◉ ʘﮯʘ


Again, these arguements have no place in a logical debate.
See? What did I tell you? Some idiot is going to try and argue with me.


And yet you can't argue back and prove me wrong.

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You can shut up now. You obviously have some shit pride you want to protect, and I honestly don't care.


It isn't a matter of shit pride; it's a matter of debate. Honestly, I have nothing to protect, because no one is providing a strong debate debunking what I've stated.

If you think you can post a very strong opinion without expecting someone to disagree and debate in return- and then blow off the debate without defending your own views so that others can see why you believe what you believe- you probably shouldn't have posted your opinion all. :/


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:11 pm   Reply with quote

Cid wrote:
Sync wrote:
Cid wrote:
Sync wrote:
OK OK, I seem to understand this whole thing now.

I see the problem with you guys.

You are too *crag* picky.


You don't see the problem at all. We're not picky; we expect a console that delivers a good number of decent games. Why should the Wii be allowed to lag far behind the 360 in terms of a quality library?

If you want me to expand on this, go over to the thread on Nintendo's creativeness where I responded to darkzero's "you're all selfish faggots" statement.

Quote:
Dude, just because most games for the Wii aren't... "meaty", like Cid stated, doesn't mean you can't have fun with it AT ALL WHATSOEVER. Maybe if you TRIED IT, MAYBE YOU COULD ENJOY IT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT IS.


I do try them, and they do suck. As I stated, Nintendo's problem is keeping up a good number of quality games. It's quantity over quality with them.

Quote:
Instead, you guys automatically stay away from most Wii games just because they're expanded to a family audience. Have you even payed attention to that anyways? They're broadened for everyone. Like stated before, you could have fun with it, despite it's duration.


...again, we're not going off about Nintendo because of their focus on a family audience. We're going off on Nintendo because they're making bad games, and allowing massive numbers of cheaply-made, trashy third-party games to appear on their consoles. Nintendo consoles used to have some sort of approval process to allow third-party games on their consoles; certain standards. Now, however, they'll openly allow games like Ninjabread Man on their console, to go alongside their shotty efforts such as Wii Play or Wii Music.

Quote:
I'm not saying to stick with Nintendo games; i'm actually expanding my horizons myself. All i'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, if you bother to TRY, you can just ignore the whole Casual VS Core and just enjoy gaming as a whole, despite how long you go on with


So, you're suggesting to us that we should forget that there is even such a thing as "quality" or a "good game," and pretend that there is no such thing as a bad game? Because I try alot of the Wii's bullcrap, and alot of it is just that: bullcrap.

Quote:
it. Hell, you know what? I just started trying to clean this mess up, and i'm already tired of this shit. You guys can do whatever the *crag* you want, go ahead and whine about how Nintendo should stop being so "Casual". I don't give a *crag* anymore. Ugh, you people make me sick. -_-


I could say the same thing about you: continue to tearfully support a console that is filling up with so many bad games over their few games. That is enough to make someone sick, as well.

Quote:
That won't really do anything, They'll still just complain because they think that the world revolves around them and that Nintendo is their personal slave.°Д° ◉_◉ ʘﮯʘ


Again, these arguements have no place in a logical debate.
See? What did I tell you? Some idiot is going to try and argue with me.


And yet you can't argue back and prove me wrong.

Quote:
You can shut up now. You obviously have some shit pride you want to protect, and I honestly don't care.


It isn't a matter of shit pride; it's a matter of debate. Honestly, I have nothing to protect, because no one is providing a strong debate debunking what I've stated.

If you think you can just go ahead and post a strong opinion without expecting someone to disagree and debate in return, you probably shouldn't post at all. :/
I don't want to prove you wrong. I just want to state my view on this. There is no rule in life stating you have to start a debate over something just because you are stating your viewpoint on a situation.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:13 pm   Reply with quote

Sync wrote:
Cid wrote:
Sync wrote:
Cid wrote:
Sync wrote:
OK OK, I seem to understand this whole thing now.

I see the problem with you guys.

You are too *crag* picky.


You don't see the problem at all. We're not picky; we expect a console that delivers a good number of decent games. Why should the Wii be allowed to lag far behind the 360 in terms of a quality library?

If you want me to expand on this, go over to the thread on Nintendo's creativeness where I responded to darkzero's "you're all selfish faggots" statement.

Quote:
Dude, just because most games for the Wii aren't... "meaty", like Cid stated, doesn't mean you can't have fun with it AT ALL WHATSOEVER. Maybe if you TRIED IT, MAYBE YOU COULD ENJOY IT, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT IS.


I do try them, and they do suck. As I stated, Nintendo's problem is keeping up a good number of quality games. It's quantity over quality with them.

Quote:
Instead, you guys automatically stay away from most Wii games just because they're expanded to a family audience. Have you even payed attention to that anyways? They're broadened for everyone. Like stated before, you could have fun with it, despite it's duration.


...again, we're not going off about Nintendo because of their focus on a family audience. We're going off on Nintendo because they're making bad games, and allowing massive numbers of cheaply-made, trashy third-party games to appear on their consoles. Nintendo consoles used to have some sort of approval process to allow third-party games on their consoles; certain standards. Now, however, they'll openly allow games like Ninjabread Man on their console, to go alongside their shotty efforts such as Wii Play or Wii Music.

Quote:
I'm not saying to stick with Nintendo games; i'm actually expanding my horizons myself. All i'm saying is that maybe, just maybe, if you bother to TRY, you can just ignore the whole Casual VS Core and just enjoy gaming as a whole, despite how long you go on with


So, you're suggesting to us that we should forget that there is even such a thing as "quality" or a "good game," and pretend that there is no such thing as a bad game? Because I try alot of the Wii's bullcrap, and alot of it is just that: bullcrap.

Quote:
it. Hell, you know what? I just started trying to clean this mess up, and i'm already tired of this shit. You guys can do whatever the *crag* you want, go ahead and whine about how Nintendo should stop being so "Casual". I don't give a *crag* anymore. Ugh, you people make me sick. -_-


I could say the same thing about you: continue to tearfully support a console that is filling up with so many bad games over their few games. That is enough to make someone sick, as well.

Quote:
That won't really do anything, They'll still just complain because they think that the world revolves around them and that Nintendo is their personal slave.°Д° ◉_◉ ʘﮯʘ


Again, these arguements have no place in a logical debate.
See? What did I tell you? Some idiot is going to try and argue with me.


And yet you can't argue back and prove me wrong.

Quote:
You can shut up now. You obviously have some shit pride you want to protect, and I honestly don't care.


It isn't a matter of shit pride; it's a matter of debate. Honestly, I have nothing to protect, because no one is providing a strong debate debunking what I've stated.

If you think you can just go ahead and post a strong opinion without expecting someone to disagree and debate in return, you probably shouldn't post at all. :/
I don't want to prove you wrong. I just want to state my view on this. There is no rule in life stating you have to start a debate over something just because you are stating your viewpoint on a situation.


Then why was your opinion, at the top of the page, outright attacking those who disagreed? Don't debate an opinion if you don't expect a debate in return.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:19 pm   Reply with quote

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Don't debate an opinion if you don't expect a debate in return.
Debate an opinion?

WHAT THE *crag*

I ALREADY SAID I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE

GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD

Oh my god, now you're starting one out of this. Please, just shut up. I cannot stress this enough that I don't want to argue over shit. At least not now. God. -_-
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:23 pm   Reply with quote

Sync wrote:
Cid wrote:
Don't debate an opinion if you don't expect a debate in return.
Debate an opinion?

WHAT THE *crag*

I ALREADY SAID I DON'T WANT TO DEBATE

GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD

Oh my god, now you're starting one out of this. Please, just shut up. I cannot stress this enough that I don't want to argue over shit. At least not now. God. -_-


Calm down. I'm not overreacting; neither should you. No, your opening post was arguementative. Allow me to remind you.

How is "You are too *crag* picky.", "you guys make me sick," and implying that we didn't play the games we dislike and should try them not arguement-bait?

Even if you say you didn't want to debate, your post suggests otherwise. It was an attack on those criticizing Nintendo, and attacks on others are what starts debates or arguements. You can't get around that fact.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:25 pm   Reply with quote

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How is "You are too *crag* picky.", "you guys make me sick," and implying that we didn't play the games we dislike and should try them not arguement-bait?

Even if you say you didn't want to debate, your post suggests otherwise.
Well maybe you guys should stop being so damn sensitive? They're words. They aren't going to hurt you.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:28 pm   Reply with quote

Sync wrote:
Cid wrote:
How is "You are too *crag* picky.", "you guys make me sick," and implying that we didn't play the games we dislike and should try them not arguement-bait?

Even if you say you didn't want to debate, your post suggests otherwise.
Well maybe you guys should stop being so damn sensitive? They're words. They aren't going to hurt you.


If that's the advice you're giving to us, you should follow it yourself, as well. Your post was far more defensive than any of ours.

And no, I'm not being sensitive. I'm just using truths to back up my arguement that Nintendo is, indeed, lacking-in-quality. Debates =/= people getting overly sensitive. They happen all the time elsewhere, and it's a shame that digibutter rarely has debates. :/
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:36 pm   Reply with quote

Cid wrote:
Sync wrote:
Cid wrote:
How is "You are too *crag* picky.", "you guys make me sick," and implying that we didn't play the games we dislike and should try them not arguement-bait?

Even if you say you didn't want to debate, your post suggests otherwise.
Well maybe you guys should stop being so damn sensitive? They're words. They aren't going to hurt you.


If that's the advice you're giving to us, you should follow it yourself, as well. Your post was far more defensive than any of ours.

And no, I'm not being sensitive. I'm just using truths to back up my arguement that Nintendo is, indeed, lacking-in-quality. Debates =/= people getting overly sensitive. They happen all the time elsewhere, and it's a shame that digibutter rarely has debates. :/
I don't think saying the same shit about how nintendo isn't making good game, but masking it over with an edit of the post before that is telling the truth, You're just repeating yourself.

Besides, Nintendo doesn't develop any of the shovelware that Wii has. :l °Д°
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:41 pm   Reply with quote

Cuban Pete wrote:
Cid wrote:
Sync wrote:
Cid wrote:
How is "You are too *crag* picky.", "you guys make me sick," and implying that we didn't play the games we dislike and should try them not arguement-bait?

Even if you say you didn't want to debate, your post suggests otherwise.
Well maybe you guys should stop being so damn sensitive? They're words. They aren't going to hurt you.


If that's the advice you're giving to us, you should follow it yourself, as well. Your post was far more defensive than any of ours.

And no, I'm not being sensitive. I'm just using truths to back up my arguement that Nintendo is, indeed, lacking-in-quality. Debates =/= people getting overly sensitive. They happen all the time elsewhere, and it's a shame that digibutter rarely has debates. :/
I don't think saying the same shit about how nintendo isn't making good game, but masking it over with an edit of the post before that is telling the truth, You're just repeating yourself.


If I'm saying the same thing over and over again, my opposition certainly is, as well.

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Besides, Nintendo doesn't develop any of the shovelware that Wii has. :l °Д° ◉_◉ ʘﮯʘ


Nintendo contributes to it; Wii Play, Link's Crossbow Training, and Wii Music are all "shovelware." Plus, Nintendo are the ones allowing large amounts of terrible games to appear on their consol. Most of the time, there's some sort of quality level that a game needs to meet to make it on a console. The fact that Nintendo's "Seal of Quality" is now Nintendo's "Official Seal" lends credit, indirectly, to the fact that Nintendo's standards are not as high as they once were.

And, again, 7-9 good games- some of them being short- on a console that is two years old is unacceptable.
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