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Hellza Ballza
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 Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 3:40 pm
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| Zelnor wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Thats such an old argument Chaos, I've seen that giant wall of text written 10 different ways already. Stop feeding us bullshit and backing it up with the obvious. |
If it's obvious, then it must have a grounding in easily perceptible reality. Therefore, it is not bullshit. |
But it is, because his argument is reused. People just don't care anymore Zelnor, it does have a grounding of easily perceptible reality but it's so often reused it eventually becomes another meaning, He's not saying the site is dieing, he's complaining about being unsatisfied because he doesn't see the site in a way he wants to see it. |
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Master of Puppets...
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:14 pm
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| Goron Mask wrote: | | Zelnor wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Thats such an old argument Chaos, I've seen that giant wall of text written 10 different ways already. Stop feeding us bullshit and backing it up with the obvious. |
If it's obvious, then it must have a grounding in easily perceptible reality. Therefore, it is not bullshit. |
But it is, because his argument is reused. People just don't care anymore Zelnor, it does have a grounding of easily perceptible reality but it's so often reused it eventually becomes another meaning, He's not saying the site is dieing, he's complaining about being unsatisfied because he doesn't see the site in a way he wants to see it. |
You're right. I am complaining about how it is not how I want to see it. Are you saying you want to see it dead? Because I certainly do not, which is what this whole post was about!
Please, don't spout nonsense in my topics. |
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LudwigVonKoopa
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:17 pm
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TCH, we've been through several of these stages.
Now STFU and get back to the emo corner. |
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Master of Puppets...
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:19 pm
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| LudwigVonKoopa wrote: | TCH, we've been through several of these stages.
Now STFU and get back to the emo corner. |
This will not be tolerated.
Add to the topic, or don't post at all. |
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Hellza Ballza
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:26 pm
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| The Chaos Heart wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Zelnor wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Thats such an old argument Chaos, I've seen that giant wall of text written 10 different ways already. Stop feeding us bullshit and backing it up with the obvious. |
If it's obvious, then it must have a grounding in easily perceptible reality. Therefore, it is not bullshit. |
But it is, because his argument is reused. People just don't care anymore Zelnor, it does have a grounding of easily perceptible reality but it's so often reused it eventually becomes another meaning, He's not saying the site is dieing, he's complaining about being unsatisfied because he doesn't see the site in a way he wants to see it. |
You're right. I am complaining about how it is not how I want to see it. Are you saying you want to see it dead? Because I certainly do not, which is what this whole post was about!
Please, don't spout nonsense in my topics. |
It's not dieing though your just saying it's dieing. We went through this same exact thing last year, did it die? No it did not. Chill maan just chill... |
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Master of Puppets...
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:33 pm
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| Goron Mask wrote: | | The Chaos Heart wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Zelnor wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Thats such an old argument Chaos, I've seen that giant wall of text written 10 different ways already. Stop feeding us bullshit and backing it up with the obvious. |
If it's obvious, then it must have a grounding in easily perceptible reality. Therefore, it is not bullshit. |
But it is, because his argument is reused. People just don't care anymore Zelnor, it does have a grounding of easily perceptible reality but it's so often reused it eventually becomes another meaning, He's not saying the site is dieing, he's complaining about being unsatisfied because he doesn't see the site in a way he wants to see it. |
You're right. I am complaining about how it is not how I want to see it. Are you saying you want to see it dead? Because I certainly do not, which is what this whole post was about!
Please, don't spout nonsense in my topics. |
It's not dieing though your just saying it's dieing. We went through this same exact thing last year, did it die? No it did not. Chill maan just chill... |
We did not have nearly inactive moderators last year. Francis was a bit more active. Everything was better, though not perfect last year.
You seem to not understand what it means when I say the site is "dying". The death of a forum is a gradual thing. It's not some dramatic moment in history, like a bomb going off. It's slow. Like a disease.
When I say the site is dying, it could not die for another year or two. But that doesn't change the fact it IS on a road to death. And the longer people turn their noses up at this fact, the harder it will be to keep this place alive.
But then again, you are the type that lives in the moment, so I suppose you don't have the capacity to think about the future. Or you just don't care. Either one is bad. |
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Cid
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:34 pm
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Well, if 'everyone' keeps saying that, there must be acause for this situation, and since everyone is usually the majorty it must be, once again, pretty obvious. |
THE ONLY REASON FOR THIS PESSIMISM IS BECAUSE IT'S A FAD, AND THE ONLY CAUSE FOR THAT FAD WAS A FEW INDIVIDUALS OVERREACTING. A YEAR AGO, WHEN THE MOANING STARTED, PEOPLE WERE SAYING THE SITE WOULD DIE WITHIN A FEW MONTHS. BUT IT ISN'T DEAD YET, NOW IS IT? WE'RE STILL GETTING NEW MEMBERS EVERY NOW AND THEN, ARE WE NOT (THE POPULATION WE HAVE IS QUITE HEALTHY FOR A SITE BASED ON AN IN-JOKE, MIND YOU)? DIGIBETA.NERR.BIZ HAS RECIEVED QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS SINCE ITS FIRST REVELATION, HAS IT NOT?
IN ADDITION, THE MAJORITY OF DIGIBUTTER DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT THE SITE IS DYING; I CAN ASSURE YOU, LESS THAN HALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO ATTEND THIS SITE ARE SO PESSIMISTIC ABOUT ITS FUTURE. AND EVEN THEN, SOME OF THE DOOMSAYERS SEEM TO JUST BE GOING ALONG WITH WHAT OTHERS SAY IN A FAD-LIKE WAY, LIKE FAT TUPER (NO OFFENSE).
AS I SEE IT, IT'S ALL A BUNCH OF MOANING ABOUT A NONEXISTANT OR OVERBLOWN PROBLEM. PERSONALLY, I THINK PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEMSELVES BELIEVE THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND THEREFORE ARE FEEDING THIS IMAGINARY PROBLEM BY CONTINUING TO BE VOCAL ABOUT IT AND ESCALATING ITS SIGNIFICANCE; IT CAN BE COMPARED TO THE WMD FEAR-MONGERING PERFORMED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, ACTUALLY.
THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THAT IT ISN'T AS BAD AS YOU THOUGHT, AND TO CONTINUE ENJOYING THE SITE WITHOUT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. AFTER ALL, THE FIRST STEP TO IMPROVING SOMETHING ABOUT ANYTHING IS TO HOLD AN OPTMISTIC ATTITUDE ABOUT IT; IF WE WERE ALL PESSIMISTIC ABOUT EVERYTHING, HOW WOULD WE EVER ACHIEVE ANYTHING?
ALL I'M SAYING IS TO CALM DOWN. DIGIBUTTER ISN'T GOING TO DIE NOW, JUST AS IT WASN'T GOING TO DIE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. JUST CONTINUE TO HANG OUT HERE AND DO WHAT YOU DO HERE, AND ANY PROBLEM-NO MATTER HOW BIG OR SMALL-WILL UNWRAVEL ITSELF IN TIME.
| Quote: | | If the mods are strict but not active enough, then maybe it would be good to be more strict in the amount of time they do have to act as a deterrant and achieve the same overall level of moderation |
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT ATTEMPTING TO DETER THINGS NEVER ACHIEVED ANY GOALS. THIS IS EVIDENCED BY HOW CRIME RATES ARE STILL HIGH IN NATIONS THAT HAVE THE DEATH PENALTY.
IN ALL HONESTY, WE DO NEED MORE MODERATORS, AND ACTIVE ONES AT THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE MODS WE HAVE IN TO NAZIS TO MAKE UP FOR IT, HOWEVER. |
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Master of Puppets...
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:42 pm
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| Lrrr of Omicron Persei 8 wrote: | | Zelnor wrote: |
Well, if 'everyone' keeps saying that, there must be acause for this situation, and since everyone is usually the majorty it must be, once again, pretty obvious. |
THE ONLY REASON FOR THIS PESSIMISM IS BECAUSE IT'S A FAD, AND THE ONLY CAUSE FOR THAT FAD WAS A FEW INDIVIDUALS OVERREACTING. A YEAR AGO, WHEN THE MOANING STARTED, PEOPLE WERE SAYING THE SITE WOULD DIE WITHIN A FEW MONTHS. BUT IT ISN'T DEAD YET, NOW IS IT? WE'RE STILL GETTING NEW MEMBERS EVERY NOW AND THEN, ARE WE NOT (THE POPULATION WE HAVE IS QUITE HEALTHY FOR A SITE BASED ON AN IN-JOKE, MIND YOU)? DIGIBETA.NERR.BIZ HAS RECIEVED QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS SINCE ITS FIRST REVELATION, HAS IT NOT?
IN ADDITION, THE MAJORITY OF DIGIBUTTER DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT THE SITE IS DYING; I CAN ASSURE YOU, LESS THAN HALF OF THE PEOPLE WHO ATTEND THIS SITE ARE SO PESSIMISTIC ABOUT ITS FUTURE. AND EVEN THEN, SOME OF THE DOOMSAYERS SEEM TO JUST BE GOING ALONG WITH WHAT OTHERS SAY IN A FAD-LIKE WAY, LIKE FAT TUPER (NO OFFENSE).
AS I SEE IT, IT'S ALL A BUNCH OF MOANING ABOUT A NONEXISTANT OR OVERBLOWN PROBLEM. PERSONALLY, I THINK PEOPLE ARE MAKING THEMSELVES BELIEVE THERE IS A PROBLEM, AND THEREFORE ARE FEEDING THIS IMAGINARY PROBLEM BY CONTINUING TO BE VOCAL ABOUT IT AND ESCALATING ITS SIGNIFICANCE; IT CAN BE COMPARED TO THE WMD FEAR-MONGERING PERFORMED BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, ACTUALLY.
THE ONLY WAY TO FIX THIS PROBLEM WOULD BE TO ACCEPT THAT IT ISN'T AS BAD AS YOU THOUGHT, AND TO CONTINUE ENJOYING THE SITE WITHOUT COMPLAINING ABOUT IT. AFTER ALL, THE FIRST STEP TO IMPROVING SOMETHING ABOUT ANYTHING IS TO HOLD AN OPTMISTIC ATTITUDE ABOUT IT; IF WE WERE ALL PESSIMISTIC ABOUT EVERYTHING, HOW WOULD WE EVER ACHIEVE ANYTHING?
ALL I'M SAYING IS TO CALM DOWN. DIGIBUTTER ISN'T GOING TO DIE NOW, JUST AS IT WASN'T GOING TO DIE SEVERAL MONTHS AGO. JUST CONTINUE TO HANG OUT HERE AND DO WHAT YOU DO HERE, AND ANY PROBLEM-NO MATTER HOW BIG OR SMALL-WILL UNWRAVEL ITSELF IN TIME.
| Quote: | | If the mods are strict but not active enough, then maybe it would be good to be more strict in the amount of time they do have to act as a deterrant and achieve the same overall level of moderation |
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT ATTEMPTING TO DETER THINGS NEVER ACHIEVED ANY GOALS. THIS IS EVIDENCED BY HOW CRIME RATES ARE STILL HIGH IN NATIONS THAT HAVE THE DEATH PENALTY.
IN ALL HONESTY, WE DO NEED MORE MODERATORS, AND ACTIVE ONES AT THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE THE MODS WE HAVE IN TO NAZIS TO MAKE UP FOR IT, HOWEVER. |
*points to post above* I'm not saying it is going to die in the immediate future. But it will soon if people continue this path.
Optimists are just ignorant people who smile at everything. I am neither an optimist nor a pessimist. I state what is logical, not the dark or happy. I state truth.
Also, I do not wish for more moderatos. Being stricter while on is one of the problems. We need strict mods who have a lot of time on their hands. Limited time and strictness is what leads to those stupid court topics I mentioned earlier.
Or did people forget to read that? |
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Hellza Ballza
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:46 pm
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| The Chaos Heart wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | The Chaos Heart wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Zelnor wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Thats such an old argument Chaos, I've seen that giant wall of text written 10 different ways already. Stop feeding us bullshit and backing it up with the obvious. |
If it's obvious, then it must have a grounding in easily perceptible reality. Therefore, it is not bullshit. |
But it is, because his argument is reused. People just don't care anymore Zelnor, it does have a grounding of easily perceptible reality but it's so often reused it eventually becomes another meaning, He's not saying the site is dieing, he's complaining about being unsatisfied because he doesn't see the site in a way he wants to see it. |
You're right. I am complaining about how it is not how I want to see it. Are you saying you want to see it dead? Because I certainly do not, which is what this whole post was about!
Please, don't spout nonsense in my topics. |
It's not dieing though your just saying it's dieing. We went through this same exact thing last year, did it die? No it did not. Chill maan just chill... |
We did not have nearly inactive moderators last year. Francis was a bit more active. Everything was better, though not perfect last year.
You seem to not understand what it means when I say the site is "dying". The death of a forum is a gradual thing. It's not some dramatic moment in history, like a bomb going off. It's slow. Like a disease.
When I say the site is dying, it could not die for another year or two. But that doesn't change the fact it IS on a road to death. And the longer people turn their noses up at this fact, the harder it will be to keep this place alive.
But then again, you are the type that lives in the moment, so I suppose you don't have the capacity to think about the future. Or you just don't care. Either one is bad. |
So this is like a prediction pretty much. Your not sure if the site is gonna die your just guessing it might because of specific cycles of death you've seen among forums. Well you know what Chaos, your right, the site COULD die in a year or two from now but at least we could say we had a good *crag* run you know. And you know how it's gonna get there? By eliminating all this "The site is dieing crap" and you know how were gonna do that? Were not gonna give a shit about your negativity since it's irrelevant. |
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Master of Puppets...
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:49 pm
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| Goron Mask wrote: | | The Chaos Heart wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | The Chaos Heart wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Zelnor wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Thats such an old argument Chaos, I've seen that giant wall of text written 10 different ways already. Stop feeding us bullshit and backing it up with the obvious. |
If it's obvious, then it must have a grounding in easily perceptible reality. Therefore, it is not bullshit. |
But it is, because his argument is reused. People just don't care anymore Zelnor, it does have a grounding of easily perceptible reality but it's so often reused it eventually becomes another meaning, He's not saying the site is dieing, he's complaining about being unsatisfied because he doesn't see the site in a way he wants to see it. |
You're right. I am complaining about how it is not how I want to see it. Are you saying you want to see it dead? Because I certainly do not, which is what this whole post was about!
Please, don't spout nonsense in my topics. |
It's not dieing though your just saying it's dieing. We went through this same exact thing last year, did it die? No it did not. Chill maan just chill... |
We did not have nearly inactive moderators last year. Francis was a bit more active. Everything was better, though not perfect last year.
You seem to not understand what it means when I say the site is "dying". The death of a forum is a gradual thing. It's not some dramatic moment in history, like a bomb going off. It's slow. Like a disease.
When I say the site is dying, it could not die for another year or two. But that doesn't change the fact it IS on a road to death. And the longer people turn their noses up at this fact, the harder it will be to keep this place alive.
But then again, you are the type that lives in the moment, so I suppose you don't have the capacity to think about the future. Or you just don't care. Either one is bad. |
So this is like a prediction pretty much. Your not sure if the site is gonna die your just guessing it might because of specific cycles of death you've seen among forums. Well you know what Chaos, your right, the site COULD die in a year or two from now but at least we could say we had a good *crag* run you know. And you know how it's gonna get there? By eliminating all this "The site is dieing crap" and you know how ere gonna do that? Were not gonna give a shit about your negativity since it's irrelevant. |
So, rather than trying to fix a problem that has a 76% probability rate of happening, you will turn a blind eye and do nothing, while the forum rots, and eventually dies?
......I see. |
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Cid
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:55 pm
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| Quote: | | *points to post above* I'm not saying it is going to die in the immediate future. But it will soon if people continue this path. |
*POINTS TO POST ABOVE* PEOPLE ARE CREATING THIS MONSTER THEMSELVES. IT ISN'T A TANGIBLE THREAT, BUT A PSYCHOLOGICAL DEMON THAT IS MAKING PEOPLE BELIEVE THERE IS A TANGIBLE THREAT.
| Quote: | | Optimists are just ignorant people who smile at everything. I am neither an optimist nor a pessimist. I state what is logical, not the dark or happy. I state truth. |
BUT YOU'RE NOT STATING WHAT IS LOGICAL. YOU ARE PARTAKING IN RADICAL, HYPED UP DOOMSAYING, WHICH IS FAR FROM THE TRUTH.
| Quote: | Also, I do not wish for more moderatos. Being stricter while on is one of the problems.
We need strict mods who have a lot of time on their hands. Limited time and strictness is what leads to those stupid court topics I mentioned earlier. |
ACTUALLY, MAKING ACTIVE MODS STRICTER WOULD RESULT IN MORE OF THE "STUPID" COURT TOPICS. THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THOSE STUPID COURT TOPICS IS BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME WHO WANT TO PUNISH PEOPLE FOR EVERY LITTLE THING WHEN OUR PRIORITY SHOULD REST ON SERIOUS OFFENSES; OFTEN TIMES, THE THINGS THAT ANALLY STRICT MODS STRIKE TEND TO NOT BE VERY BAD AT ALL. IF WE FORCED MODS TO BE MORE STRICT, WE WOULD ONLY GET MORE OF THEM, BECAUSE MODS WOULD HAVE MUCH TOUGHER STANDARDS REGARDING WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT ISN'T (AND NO DOUBT A MOD WHO'S CONDITIONED TO BE STRICT WHO HAS ALOT OF TIME ON HIS HANDS IS GOING TO GET BORED AND WANT TO STRIKE MINOR THINGS FOR FUN).
LENIENCY + ACTIVITY = LESS STUPID COURT TOPICS, AND A MODERATION FORCE WHOSE PRIORITIES CONSIST OF FIXING SERIOUS PROBLEMS. FRANCIS RECENTLY CHANGED THE FOCUS OF THE MODERATION TEAM TO FIXING PROBLEMS THAT MAY ACTUALLY DAMAGE THE COMMUNITY INSTEAD OF MINOR PROBLEMS LIKE NECROPOSTING OR CASUAL CENSOR BYPASS. IF BECOMING STRICT MEANS MORE RULES (WHICH WILL NATURALLY RESULT IN MODS NEEDING TO STRIKE THOSE THINGS IN ADDITION TO ACTUAL PROBLEMS), WE'LL ONLY SEE MORE CLOGGED UP COURT TOPICS.
WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, NOT BACK.
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Hellza Ballza
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| Posted: Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:55 pm
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| The Chaos Heart wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | The Chaos Heart wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | The Chaos Heart wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Zelnor wrote: | | Goron Mask wrote: | | Thats such an old argument Chaos, I've seen that giant wall of text written 10 different ways already. Stop feeding us bullshit and backing it up with the obvious. |
If it's obvious, then it must have a grounding in easily perceptible reality. Therefore, it is not bullshit. |
But it is, because his argument is reused. People just don't care anymore Zelnor, it does have a grounding of easily perceptible reality but it's so often reused it eventually becomes another meaning, He's not saying the site is dieing, he's complaining about being unsatisfied because he doesn't see the site in a way he wants to see it. |
You're right. I am complaining about how it is not how I want to see it. Are you saying you want to see it dead? Because I certainly do not, which is what this whole post was about!
Please, don't spout nonsense in my topics. |
It's not dieing though your just saying it's dieing. We went through this same exact thing last year, did it die? No it did not. Chill maan just chill... |
We did not have nearly inactive moderators last year. Francis was a bit more active. Everything was better, though not perfect last year.
You seem to not understand what it means when I say the site is "dying". The death of a forum is a gradual thing. It's not some dramatic moment in history, like a bomb going off. It's slow. Like a disease.
When I say the site is dying, it could not die for another year or two. But that doesn't change the fact it IS on a road to death. And the longer people turn their noses up at this fact, the harder it will be to keep this place alive.
But then again, you are the type that lives in the moment, so I suppose you don't have the capacity to think about the future. Or you just don't care. Either one is bad. |
So this is like a prediction pretty much. Your not sure if the site is gonna die your just guessing it might because of specific cycles of death you've seen among forums. Well you know what Chaos, your right, the site COULD die in a year or two from now but at least we could say we had a good *crag* run you know. And you know how it's gonna get there? By eliminating all this "The site is dieing crap" and you know how ere gonna do that? Were not gonna give a shit about your negativity since it's irrelevant. |
So, rather than trying to fix a problem that has a 76% probability rate of happening, you will turn a blind eye and do nothing, while the forum rots, and eventually dies?
......I see. |
Everything dies eventually, and if it has a 76% of happening then why worry? Sounds like you care a little to much don't you think? Or are you just pulling random facts out your ass? |
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| Posted: Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:18 am
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Each of us seem quite set in their opinion, and neither can present any factual evidence (Well, who goes around tallying topics.)
I think we have to alter our arguments basing on that we were being metaphorical with death - we were referring to a constant decay of the level of quality and fun in the forum. Of course the forum is still going. but we wonder whether its the same one we joined. Yes, change is inevitable especially in an environment such as the innernetz, but we wonder whether others see it the same or not.
Maybe we do need to not dwell too much on the past, but I think we could take pointers from it. I'm all for a pragmatic approach to problems, so I might have misstated it, but... eh. How do I express this at 7 AM?
But please, do take us seriously, Cid. At least I don't consciously do this 'for the lulz' or out of a fad. I actually do wish to improve digibutter. I don't suggest I have all the answers or something, but trivializing my arguments and generalizing my intentions and motives is slightly insulting.
EDIT: This getting too much into SERIOUS BUSINESS department; I'll return after a chill pill and a day of school. See ya.
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Oh, let's just end it here and call it a topic. Who wants ice cream? |
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Well, whether this site is dying or not, we can all say one thing: The main reason so many people are complaining is about Francis and the mods, so I think they need to come back. I don't think ANY of the mods are even here, any more.
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