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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:08 pm   Reply with quote

Francis wrote:
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That isn't as focused on old games there as some would think. There are about(I think)20 Coin-Op classics, and some remakes of games like Contra and Prince of Persia, but alot of the stuff there is pretty original.

(Small Arms is a pain in the ass, though.)
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:14 pm   Reply with quote

What about hacks of games? When talking about emulators and roms, the term "hack" is used to refer to an edit to the rom. The edit to a videogame rom can include all sorts of things. It can involve changing the music, sprites, dialogue, miscellaneous graphics, stats, and just about anything else. Sprites and dialogue tend to be the things that are editted in most hacks, but some of them do other things such as fixing a glitch that was present in the original (this has been done with various glitches in FF6). JonBound happens to be one of my favorite hacks.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 7:14 pm   Reply with quote

I don't think I've ever pirated a game, unless it was a really old and impossible to find one (like that Sailor Moon SNES RPG) or one that I already owned/was planning on buying (I played a japanese ROM of Pokemon Sapphire a bit before that got released, and then I bought it.)

I guess it's stealing in a way, because you get the game without paying for it, so that's where the term "piracy" comes from... but it's wrong either way.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:34 pm   Reply with quote

Francis wrote:
Paper_Waluigi wrote:
I only pirate games for old systems (and by "old" I mean GBA/N64 and anything earlier) seeing as the only way of getting them is through eBay, and since that doesn't profit the game companies, I'm doing no damage whatsoever.


ehm... Virtual Console... GameTap... Sonic-Collections... MegaMan Collections... MetalSlug Anthology... XBox Arcade... i could go on

Unless it is a game that is really been forgotten, your argument doesn't really hold water

I agree with that.
(i've probably put around $80 into VC already. >.>;Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:38 am   Reply with quote

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Well, I do NOT support getting games through limewire or using roms of recent games. It takes alot of work, time, and money to make a game, and for thousands of people to just TAKE it, without paying a single penny, it's just so wrong.

Developers don't steal from you, why steal from them?

(p.s. it's okay to steal from sony)



But it's A-OKAY to sell outdated games that are ridiculously overpriced, or games that are not at all worth what you're paying for them? Let's look at these GBA pokemon games. They're a few years old, and they're still going strong at $30 bucks. The only reason they can get away with that is because people keep mindlessly buying them. Not to mention all of the terrible half assed games that people are trying to drop off on you for what is it now, 60 - 70$ a pop? You think pirating a game or two from some of these companies that virtually rob us is immoral, how about this? If people were getting these games illegally in protest, the companies would be forced to sell their product at a reasonable price.

And then of course there's "abandon-ware" which can range from anything to Atari to SNES depending on who you ask, but I guess we won't go into that for now. Because five bucks for some of this NES games is a very very fair price!



Now, I'm not saying I stick to any of these opinions like glue, but in a sense I'm playing as the devil's advocate.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:41 am   Reply with quote

Well I have nuetral feelings for pirating. I Have downloaded roms before, I have downloaded songs from limewire but I have really never stole anything more than that
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:41 am   Reply with quote

Zing!


I don't care about piracy at all. Sure, it's not fair to steal from companies that develop games, but who cares? It's not like one little game I could buy for 5 bucks at a bargain bin matters to the company at all. It's not like since people are pirating all these big companies are going to lose noticeable amounts of money.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:43 am   Reply with quote

I'd rather not go into it...
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:47 am   Reply with quote

Though people who pirate current gen or last gen games really do bother me.
That's when it's too far, since you could easily find... say... Halo. But there is a crapload that still download it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:53 am   Reply with quote

I have never went that far into to pirating. I have only downloaded GBA, N64, SNES, and GBC. So dont really think anything wrong of me o_o
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:54 am   Reply with quote

Gear wrote:
I have never went that far into to pirating. I have only downloaded GBA, N64, SNES, and GBC. So dont really think anything wrong of me o_o

Haha.
You're good. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:30 am   Reply with quote

Empy wrote:
Though people who pirate current gen or last gen games really do bother me.
That's when it's too far, since you could easily find... say... Halo. But there is a crapload that still download it.



Yeah that bothers me. It's hard as hell to play current gen games on the computer, and you might as well just go out and BUY it. Really, only games below 4th gen are worth it, since it's hard to find them and they're easy to play on a computer.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:30 am   Reply with quote

I've used pirating before, but only for old shows that can't be seen on tv anymore, and that have yet to be released on dvd or video. Other than that, I don't really bother.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:50 am   Reply with quote

Gear wrote:
I have never went that far into to pirating. I have only downloaded GBA, N64, SNES, and GBC. So dont really think anything wrong of me o_o



Bleh, the younger generations are spoiled. You treat it like N64/GBA are archaic.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2007 2:20 am   Reply with quote

I've changed my mind. I'll go into the matter.

I have:
GBA, N64, PSX, SCD, Genesis, GG, SMS, SNES, NES, and GB/GBC ROMs.

Yay, now people can bitch at me for having this stuff on my hard drive.
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