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RaveRaze
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Religion is more than just praising a seemingly nonexistant deity. Most larger scale ones are ways of life that help one get through the day knowing they aren't the only one who thinks the way they do.
In basics, Religion for the most part is a large scale mantra. |
lolno religion is a way for people to not fear death and hope that they would eventually become equivalent to those who are better than them. It also makes them think theyre lives arent forfeit |
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PEPSIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:25 pm
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It's been addressed that to peddle a message (a useless message) about the futility of human life is both silly and, as stated, USELESS.
Here's the skimmy; people like to be alive. It's just kind of a thing we enjoy doing. And when someone comes along and tells us we SHOULDN'T be alive, we don't like, oh we don't like that. That's why we convict murderers, after all, we don't give a shit about the person they murdered, it's self-interest, it's the idea that you live near a murderer and he may come to your door next that makes us toss them away in cells where they can't get us.
Since people like being alive, it's a futile effort to tell them "Hey! Your life is meaningless!" because humans...
AREN'T GOING TO LISTEN!
People who want to live are people who will live, and they're going to ignore everything you say, and the only people who truly practice futility will be you because you wasted your life telling people something they didn't want to hear, so they didn't listen, and so everyone goes on their marry way except for you.
Because guess what, by saying you serve a purpose by "Spreading the message." is just peddling the exact same self-righteous bullshit that every other human being on the planet is peddling!
YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT FROM US. |
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Bartz Klauser
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:30 pm
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| Parabuzzy King wrote: | | Spiny wrote: |
Religion is more than just praising a seemingly nonexistant deity. Most larger scale ones are ways of life that help one get through the day knowing they aren't the only one who thinks the way they do.
In basics, Religion for the most part is a large scale mantra. |
lolno religion is a way for people to not fear death and hope that they would eventually become equivalent to those who are better than them. It also makes them think theyre lives arent forfeit |
And...how does it do the bolded?
You do realize that a lot of religions are simply used as moral codes, right? Ever glanced at proper Buddhism? It's actually rather interesting. And look, religion only does the aforementioned things to several people. These people are the ones that pretty much are utterly devout. |
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RaveRaze
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:07 pm
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| Yaranaikachu wrote: | | Parabuzzy King wrote: | | Spiny wrote: |
Religion is more than just praising a seemingly nonexistant deity. Most larger scale ones are ways of life that help one get through the day knowing they aren't the only one who thinks the way they do.
In basics, Religion for the most part is a large scale mantra. |
lolno religion is a way for people to not fear death and hope that they would eventually become equivalent to those who are better than them. It also makes them think theyre lives arent forfeit |
And...how does it do the bolded?
You do realize that a lot of religions are simply used as moral codes, right? Ever glanced at proper Buddhism? It's actually rather interesting. And look, religion only does the aforementioned things to several people. These people are the ones that pretty much are utterly devout. |
The only reason that christianity spread was because it promised eternal life and that everyone would be equal in teh after life so the poor people of that time thought that they would become equal to the rich so they accepted christ Oh and Cherry just because humans are ignorant, doesnt mean I cant try and teach them, and no im not different i just realized the fact were all useless |
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Die4Less
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:18 pm
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| Parabuzzy King wrote: | | Yaranaikachu wrote: | | Parabuzzy King wrote: | | Spiny wrote: |
Religion is more than just praising a seemingly nonexistant deity. Most larger scale ones are ways of life that help one get through the day knowing they aren't the only one who thinks the way they do.
In basics, Religion for the most part is a large scale mantra. |
lolno religion is a way for people to not fear death and hope that they would eventually become equivalent to those who are better than them. It also makes them think theyre lives arent forfeit |
And...how does it do the bolded?
You do realize that a lot of religions are simply used as moral codes, right? Ever glanced at proper Buddhism? It's actually rather interesting. And look, religion only does the aforementioned things to several people. These people are the ones that pretty much are utterly devout. |
The only reason that christianity spread was because it promised eternal life and that everyone would be equal in teh after life so the poor people of that time thought that they would become equal to the rich so they accepted christ Oh and Cherry just because humans are ignorant, doesnt mean I cant try and teach them, and no im not different i just realized the fact were all useless |
Get 'em boyz! He's not making any sense whatsoever.
Rave, understand that the idea your trying to spread won't ever catch on. Not now, not ever. |
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Fat Tuper
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 8:21 pm
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| Parabuzzy King wrote: | | no im not different i just realized the fact were all useless [/color] [/i][/u] |
Plenty of people have realized this. Just not very many people are dumb enough to spam it across an internet forum as much as you have.
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Parabuzzy Queen
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:28 pm
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| Parabuzzy King wrote: | | Yaranaikachu wrote: | | Parabuzzy King wrote: | | Spiny wrote: |
Religion is more than just praising a seemingly nonexistant deity. Most larger scale ones are ways of life that help one get through the day knowing they aren't the only one who thinks the way they do.
In basics, Religion for the most part is a large scale mantra. |
lolno religion is a way for people to not fear death and hope that they would eventually become equivalent to those who are better than them. It also makes them think theyre lives arent forfeit |
And...how does it do the bolded?
You do realize that a lot of religions are simply used as moral codes, right? Ever glanced at proper Buddhism? It's actually rather interesting. And look, religion only does the aforementioned things to several people. These people are the ones that pretty much are utterly devout. |
The only reason that christianity spread was because it promised eternal life and that everyone would be equal in teh after life so the poor people of that time thought that they would become equal to the rich so they accepted christ |
No.
Christianity spread because a bunch of Europeans went out and beat it into everything else within a thousand-mile radius.
Get yer facts straight.
...So. If you're so convinced life is pointless, then what keeps YOU going? I'm curious. |
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RaveRaze
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| Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:35 pm
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| Pleinair wrote: | | Parabuzzy King wrote: | | Yaranaikachu wrote: | | Parabuzzy King wrote: | | Spiny wrote: |
Religion is more than just praising a seemingly nonexistant deity. Most larger scale ones are ways of life that help one get through the day knowing they aren't the only one who thinks the way they do.
In basics, Religion for the most part is a large scale mantra. |
lolno religion is a way for people to not fear death and hope that they would eventually become equivalent to those who are better than them. It also makes them think theyre lives arent forfeit |
And...how does it do the bolded?
You do realize that a lot of religions are simply used as moral codes, right? Ever glanced at proper Buddhism? It's actually rather interesting. And look, religion only does the aforementioned things to several people. These people are the ones that pretty much are utterly devout. |
The only reason that christianity spread was because it promised eternal life and that everyone would be equal in teh after life so the poor people of that time thought that they would become equal to the rich so they accepted christ |
No.
Christianity spread because a bunch of Europeans went out and beat it into everything else within a thousand-mile radius.
Get yer facts straight.
...So. If you're so convinced life is pointless, then what keeps YOU going? I'm curious. |
I just took a test on this you silly nanny. And from every source possible i got the exact same reasons on why christianity spread.
And what keeps me going?
The feeling that the kids at school get when i tell them my theorys and philophys the feeling that this kid is gonna come in with a gun and kill us all, thats what keeps me going |
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Token Nazi?
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 4:09 am
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| Parabuzzy King wrote: | | Spiny wrote: |
Religion is more than just praising a seemingly nonexistant deity. Most larger scale ones are ways of life that help one get through the day knowing they aren't the only one who thinks the way they do.
In basics, Religion for the most part is a large scale mantra. |
lolno religion is a way for people to not fear death and hope that they would eventually become equivalent to those who are better than them. It also makes them think theyre lives arent forfeit |
I take offense to that one. If you must absolutely feel that your pathetic existential crisis must be shared and then demand an audience, shrug off all attempts at potential comfort, opposing viewpoints and wallow in wangst whilst assuming a superiority position higher then your imagined e-peen, then I tell you one thing:
Get laid, get over your wimpy hormone-caused existential crisis, or get the *crag* out of our digibutter.
We are trying to have intellectual discussion here, for once, and I'd like that to adhere to the universally accepted standards of politeness. Your condescending manner is so annoying that it even manages to overshadow your completely inappropriate use of the English language. This is supposed to be an open discussion, and the general rules are that you listen to people, or at least voice your opinions in a polite manner instead of "lol no you suck". You are like a ring tone advertisement, only emo. So either grow the spine necessary to take opposing viewpoints and discuss them and explain why you think they're wrong, or go into your room, paint it black and cry yourself to sleep.
God *crag* damn it.
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| Parabuzzy King wrote: | | Zelnor wrote: | | Alot of shit |
So the meaning of existance is philosphical correct. Well my philosophy is that everything is worthless and that humans, animals, and planets arent having a positive effect on anything except themselves. The planet is more important than its residents so to save the planet from being killed and drained of its energy the parasites that use it must be killed.
And this "Kindchenschema" ((Im assuming theyres and english word for it)) well thats just by fitting the norm, and not expressing yourself. Meaning your making yourself be like everyone else. If we were all similar the mark were supposedly leaving for society is going to be the same through out time, Making the mark also useless. And whats this mark even for, more uselessness just to advance ourselves and further hurting the planet and even our fellow living organisms. AND HOW IS PROGRESS LIVING LIFE TO THE FULLEST. Id rather be having fun to live life to the fullest.
And Science hasnt proved theyre arent omnipotent beings, thats why their is religion. Stupid Stupid Religion. |
That response does it. Go *crag* yourself, or kill yourself, or whatever. I don't care if I get a *crag* strike for this, you've managed to get me so riled up that I'm willing to take that, I haven't even gotten one before.
You are not, strictly speaking, unique. Expressing yourself does not mean to deviate from such a basic norm as psychological conventions integrated into human existence. Stop expressing either our or your statements as absolute, they are assumptions of teenagers, or in your case maybe mentally disadvantaged pre-schoolers. I am sorry to cross the line here - ironic considering that I have been ranting about being polite in discussions in this very post - but there are some points where the pen, through mightier then the sword, is clogged by massive amounts of faggotry.And with that I do not mean homosexuality or wish to imply that you are homosexual, I mean to say that you mass-produce idiocity at such a rate that we should set up collectors around you and sell it to MTV moderators.
Next to that, you are contradicting yourself. If everything doesn't have a positive effect, except on themselves, then there is nevertheless a net positive effect. Positive means something good. Everyone likes good things. Therefore, not worthless. Basic logic. Damnit, there are syllogisms harder then this.
| RaveRaze wrote: | | And this "Kindchenschema" ((Im assuming theyres and english word for it)) well thats just by fitting the norm, and not expressing yourself. Meaning your making yourself be like everyone else. If we were all similar the mark were supposedly leaving for society is going to be the same through out time, Making the mark also useless. And whats this mark even for, more uselessness just to advance ourselves and further hurting the planet and even our fellow living organisms. AND HOW IS PROGRESS LIVING LIFE TO THE FULLEST. Id rather be having fun to live life to the fullest. |
ENGLISH *crag* DO YOU SPEAK IT.
.. In conclusion, since I've gone over the top and am two seconds away from unleashing a Cluster F-bomb,
To everyone: I apologize for this. I hope to contain myself next time, but I've had my recommended daily dosage of bullshit three pages ago, and this breaches the damn.
To RaveRaze, or Parabuzzy King, or whatever: Here a summary in casae of TL;DR
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| Parabuzzy King wrote: | I just took a test on this you silly nanny. And from every source possible i got the exact same reasons on why christianity spread.
And what keeps me going?
The feeling that the kids at school get when i tell them my theorys and philophys the feeling that this kid is gonna come in with a gun and kill us all, thats what keeps me going |
You, sir, are a *crag* sociopath. Get a shrink t that guy, before he can do shit and blame it on videogames.
I have to update my rating.
There you go:
Oh, and if this is striked: I plead Guilty. I am sorry, but I find myself observing my surroundings through a sort of thick red mist at the moment. If you wish to leave a message to my rational mind, try again after I've had breakfast and defeated a videogame endboss.
Now someone cookie this. I am irrational and therefore demand my idiocity be displayed as a memorial and warning,. |
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Cid
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:49 am
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Whether you're religious or not, you would understand that how "valuable" life is is irrelevant. Even the most atheist individuals would find reasons for wanting to live and continue their existances, no matter how "meaningless" they were. Maybe they wanted to create or discover something? Maybe they wanted to have fun and enjoy things? Maybe they just enjoy experiencing the phenomena of consciousness? Whatever the case is, the "value" or "meaning" of human life is irrelevant, as we can go on living whether we have meaning or not. And because of that, the idea of human beings having "no meaning to their existances" is no justification for the destruction of human beings.
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hai
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:50 am
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| Parabuzzy King wrote: | I just took a test on this you silly nanny. And from every source possible i got the exact same reasons on why christianity spread.
And what keeps me going?
The feeling that the kids at school get when i tell them my theorys and philophys the feeling that this kid is gonna come in with a gun and kill us all, thats what keeps me going |
So basically, you're a troll? |
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Cid
Lord Krump
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 7:54 am
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| Spiny wrote: | | Parabuzzy King wrote: | I just took a test on this you silly nanny. And from every source possible i got the exact same reasons on why christianity spread.
And what keeps me going?
The feeling that the kids at school get when i tell them my theorys and philophys the feeling that this kid is gonna come in with a gun and kill us all, thats what keeps me going |
So basically, you're a troll? |
He did the same thing during his "communist" phase; after a while, it became apparent that he wasn't quite serious with his stance. Although I commend him for bringing intellectual discussions to digibutter, I also give him a "wag of the finger" for not taking them seriously.
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Fat Tuper
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 8:15 am
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| Parabuzzy King wrote: | I just took a test on this you silly nanny. And from every source possible i got the exact same reasons on why christianity spread.
And what keeps me going?
The feeling that the kids at school get when i tell them my theorys and philophys the feeling that this kid is gonna come in with a gun and kill us all, thats what keeps me going [/i][/u] |
What did you do, edit Wikipedia? If every source you went to said that Christianity spread because people wanted eternal life, then you, and every site you went to are *crag* retarded. It spread because Europeans went almost everywhere they could, and forced the religion upon their inferiors. LEARN YOUR *crag* FACTS, GOD *crag* DAMMIT!
And if you hate all life, why do you wait for something that's not very likely to happen to kill you? Chances are, no one at your school will come in with a gun, and even then, chances that they will kill you specifically, are next to nothing. If you hate life so much, then go kill yourself, instead of waiting for something that has about a one in a billion chance to happen and kill you. You wouldn't have to live anymore, so you'd be happy, and we'd be happy. GOD!
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Bartz Klauser
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 11:02 am
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Soory, RaveRaze, I don't speak illogical, nor do I speak controversial.
But from what I'm guessing, he's assuming that Europeans kindly gave the idea of Christianity to Native Americans, Indians, Africans, and the natives of wherever-the-hell they settled.
No.
If you've studied Canadian History, or a number of other histories, you'll find of see what they've done. They force their religious beliefs down the natives throats as if it were dinner that the natives couldn't digest. The other people probably didn't care at all, where the hell they were going after their lives, too.
And how the hell does religion play a part in "human value"? Religion is, if you strip it down to nothing more, a method used for spreading basic moral beliefs. |
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Hellza Ballza
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| Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2009 12:35 pm
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This is the greatest troll topic in all of digibutter. |
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