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Cid Lord Krump
Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 7880
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:28 am
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It is about time someone cleared this up, as some have the idea that hardcore means "blood and guts" whereas casual means "kiddy games."
That is not the case, as any "hardcore" gamer who claims that that definition is the correct one is misusing his terms. This post will contain all you need to know about casual and hardcore gaming.
Hardcore gamers consider games a form of art, play a variety of games from different genres, spend more time gaming than with any other media, and have a discriminating taste when it comes to gaming: analyzing the quality and features of a game thoroughly before making a decision on whether the game is good or not. Casual gamers don't appreciate games as an art form, don't play games very much, and don't care whether games are good or bad; to them, a videogame is just another type of toy.
As for casual and hardcore games, here are some examples of both:
Hardcore
The Legend of Zelda series, Bioshock, the Mario series, the Final Fantasy series, MMORPGs, the Call of Duty series, the Kirby series (As Kirby's gameplay is so traditional, casual gamers would have a hard time picking it up.)
Casual
The "Wii Series" of toy games, Buzztime Trivia, Spore, The Sims series, Sports Games
There is a distinctive difference between Casual and Hardcore gaming, and that is that those who make games for Casual gamers don't focus on quality very much: instead, they just trying to make simple toys; whereas games that are made for Hardcore gamers are usually longer-lasting, have higher quality standards, and higher production values. With that said, yes, some Casual gamer games can appeal to hardcore gamers, such as Spore, as they are of a high enough quality to be analyzed and remembered as truly sophisticated games. But, more likely than not, that was not the primary intent of those developing and marketing the casual games.
So, yes, there is a difference between casual and hardcore games. If you have anything to point out or add, then do so. However, basically, this is what the meanings of "hardcore" and "casual" are supposed to mean. |
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RULE ONE OF FIGHT CLUB Steve
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:41 am
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This is pretty much an accurate sum-up of my opinion. |
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Mandew Manjew
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:08 am
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Casual games is a game people play casually, only when they're bored/want to do something with their friends, like Pong.
Hardcore games are games that people play 8 hours straight out of pure addiction.
Hardcore games are said to take "more skills and understanding" than casual games. Casual games are said to be pick-up-and-play. While this may be true, it doesn't mean that casual games can't be more fun than hardcore games. However, this isn't the definition of the word "casual", unless a "casual game" is meant for "casual people", in which case it should be called a... |
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Bartz Klauser BAMFing ARCHER Werewolf
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:32 am
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Yup, but I hate it how a lot of people think that 'hardcore" games are sepia-toned FPS's, and everything else is a casual game. They should be exposed to the other genre's. Such people really cannot be called "hardcore", since they haven't been exposed to a variety of gaming genres. |
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ChaosStar Super Scourge Vampire
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 10:37 am
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Casual games is everyday games and the easy ones like Babysitting party!!! While hardcore games is the hard and once in a year good released games like SSBB.
Casual gamers is bad at games and doesn't spend that much time on them, and they don't like the hardcore ones pretty often. Hardcore gamers is the ones who spend all their time on games and is good to play and doesn't give the shit for casual games pretty often. |
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Shadow Kingdom Spell Seal Burning
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:04 am
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Super Scourge wrote: | Casual games is everyday games and the easy ones like Babysitting party!!! While hardcore games is the hard and once in a year good released games like SSBB.
Casual gamers is bad at games and doesn't spend that much time on them, and they don't like the hardcore ones pretty often. Hardcore gamers is the ones who spend all their time on games and is good to play and doesn't give the shit for casual games pretty often. | SSBB is not hard. Tabuu isn't even all that hard on Intense. And hey, a casual gamer might be good at games. Generally casual gamers only play games for fun. They don't really care about anything else, they just want the game to be fun. |
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Hug you blob NAO! Super Tenebrae
Joined: 14 Jun 2008 Posts: 1956
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:25 pm
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Im both hardcore and casual |
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Mandew Manjew
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 12:29 pm
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SSBB is pretty casual if you ask me. |
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The #1 Bristle Dark Bristle
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:14 pm
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Mandew wrote: | SSBB is pretty casual if you ask me. | Depends on the way you look at it. I personally think it can be either or. You can easily play it competively or just once in a while for fun. I'd call Brawl both hardcore and casual. |
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Hellza Ballza Goron Mask Dead
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 3:56 pm
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Mandew wrote: | SSBB is pretty casual if you ask me. |
Not really...Sure it's easy to pick up and not as hard as melee but that doesn't make it causal. =/ |
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Hug you blob NAO! Super Tenebrae
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 5:36 pm
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Mandew wrote: | SSBB is pretty casual if you ask me. |
Lbp is more casual than brawl IMO |
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ChaosStar Super Scourge Vampire
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:08 pm
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Shadow Kingdom wrote: | Super Scourge wrote: | Casual games is everyday games and the easy ones like Babysitting party!!! While hardcore games is the hard and once in a year good released games like SSBB.
Casual gamers is bad at games and doesn't spend that much time on them, and they don't like the hardcore ones pretty often. Hardcore gamers is the ones who spend all their time on games and is good to play and doesn't give the shit for casual games pretty often. | SSBB is not hard. Tabuu isn't even all that hard on Intense. And hey, a casual gamer might be good at games. Generally casual gamers only play games for fun. They don't really care about anything else, they just want the game to be fun. |
To all of you who think Brawl's casual, WRONG!!! Brawl is one of the games of the most popular series of all time. And for you who think it's easy, go into lv.9 and intense mode if possible and play. A casual friend of mine didn't like Brawl, that's enough provement for me to say this. |
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Cid Lord Krump
Joined: 21 Apr 2007 Posts: 7880
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:18 pm
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Fuzzy wrote: | Im both hardcore and casual |
You could be a hardcore gamer that plays casual games; casual gamers don't usually play hardcore games or are passionate about the media of games, because, if they had those qualities, they would be closer to being "hardcore."
You can't be both hardcore and casual at the same time. Unless you have a split personality or something. |
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Oh fuck. Flar3 Luigi Vampire
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:26 pm
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Super Scourge wrote: | Shadow Kingdom wrote: | Super Scourge wrote: | Casual games is everyday games and the easy ones like Babysitting party!!! While hardcore games is the hard and once in a year good released games like SSBB.
Casual gamers is bad at games and doesn't spend that much time on them, and they don't like the hardcore ones pretty often. Hardcore gamers is the ones who spend all their time on games and is good to play and doesn't give the shit for casual games pretty often. | SSBB is not hard. Tabuu isn't even all that hard on Intense. And hey, a casual gamer might be good at games. Generally casual gamers only play games for fun. They don't really care about anything else, they just want the game to be fun. |
To all of you who think Brawl's casual, WRONG!!! Brawl is one of the games of the most popular series of all time. And for you who think it's easy, go into lv.9 and intense mode if possible and play. A casual friend of mine didn't like Brawl, that's enough provement for me to say this. | It may be popular, but it was dissapointing to me. Fighting Level 9 computers and intense on any modes are pretty much easy. |
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TooManyToasters Paper_Waluigi
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Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 7:44 pm
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Super Scourge wrote: | Shadow Kingdom wrote: | Super Scourge wrote: | Casual games is everyday games and the easy ones like Babysitting party!!! While hardcore games is the hard and once in a year good released games like SSBB.
Casual gamers is bad at games and doesn't spend that much time on them, and they don't like the hardcore ones pretty often. Hardcore gamers is the ones who spend all their time on games and is good to play and doesn't give the shit for casual games pretty often. | SSBB is not hard. Tabuu isn't even all that hard on Intense. And hey, a casual gamer might be good at games. Generally casual gamers only play games for fun. They don't really care about anything else, they just want the game to be fun. |
To all of you who think Brawl's casual, WRONG!!! Brawl is one of the games of the most popular series of all time. And for you who think it's easy, go into lv.9 and intense mode if possible and play. A casual friend of mine didn't like Brawl, that's enough provement for me to say this. RAGE RAGE RAGE |
Brawl can be played casually. Sure, one can play it for hours on end, but it's also very pick-up-and-play, and it can be piss-easy. I don't think anyone was accusing it of being strictly for the casuals. |
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