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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:32 am   Reply with quote

If a moderator strikes a post and the topic is taken to Court, the moderator's vote should automatically be a vote for "Guilty". Because if they striked the post they obviously thought that the offender was Guilty.

And, if there isn't already, there should be some way for the mods and Francis to see what the mods voted for what, and what moderator originally striked the post, along with of course seeing strikes that didn't go to Court. That way it's easier for Francis to see who'd doing their job well and who isn't, and allows moderators to have discussions about their fellow moderators with more evidence and of course without normal members interfering.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:51 am   Reply with quote

I don't think so. A mod can see a different light after the defendant posts.


And I think Francis can see all that stuff.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:00 pm   Reply with quote

Frozenwinters wrote:
I don't think so. A mod can see a different light after the defendant posts.


No, that is a load of shit. A mod should only strike something if they are 100% sure that they think that it deserved the strike. If that mod changes their mind, then what was the *crag* point? It would have been a complete waste of time for both the mods and the person struck.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:01 pm   Reply with quote

Mods also should be able to change their vote, because people in court can change their opinions, and they do, a lot of the time.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:04 pm   Reply with quote

Frozenwinters wrote:
I don't think so. A mod can see a different light after the defendant posts.


And I think Francis can see all that stuff.
Very rarely does some kind of revolutionary opinion-changing evidence pop up in Court. If a moderator strikes something, then they obviously have enough information to decide that it is definitely strikeworthy. Unless they make the occasional mistake and that post is actually a clever reference to something and not a flame/spam as it appears, in which rare case the defendant pleads not Guilty, explains, and then the problem is solved. If strikes work otherwise then the mods aren't doing their jobs well enough. "Maybe" posts should never be striked.

And yeah, Francis can see a lot, but mods should be able to see a lot too. That way they have more understanding of why somebody's been demodded or why somebody hasn't been demodded yet and such.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:04 pm   Reply with quote

Flavio wrote:
Frozenwinters wrote:
I don't think so. A mod can see a different light after the defendant posts.


No, that is a load of shit. A mod should only strike something if they are 100% sure that they think that it deserved the strike. If that mod changes their mind, then what was the *crag* point? It would have been a complete waste of time for both the mods and the person struck.
Apparently it happens a lot on these 4 to 0 votes on not guilty.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:09 pm   Reply with quote

Frozenwinters wrote:
Flavio wrote:
Frozenwinters wrote:
I don't think so. A mod can see a different light after the defendant posts.


No, that is a load of shit. A mod should only strike something if they are 100% sure that they think that it deserved the strike. If that mod changes their mind, then what was the *crag* point? It would have been a complete waste of time for both the mods and the person struck.
Apparently it happens a lot on these 4 to 0 votes on not guilty.

It shouldn't happen. There is absolutely not reason for that shit to happen. A mod should think over every decision carefully before making it. If a mod is having second thoughts about whether something deserved a strike then they shouldn't have given out the strike.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 12:11 pm   Reply with quote

Frozenwinters wrote:
Flavio wrote:
Frozenwinters wrote:
I don't think so. A mod can see a different light after the defendant posts.


No, that is a load of shit. A mod should only strike something if they are 100% sure that they think that it deserved the strike. If that mod changes their mind, then what was the *crag* point? It would have been a complete waste of time for both the mods and the person struck.
Apparently it happens a lot on these 4 to 0 votes on not guilty.
Which is a problem, for above reasons.

Also, at "fat tuper"'s post, I think there should be some sort of vote-changing system...but not just being able to change it willy-nilly. Mods need to learn that if they strike something or vote Guilty on something, it is nearly 100% final. I say that we have the "if you strike it, you auto-vote for guilty" added, and if some mod wants to change their vote than they will have to post something very intelligent as to what their vote was and why they want to change it and Francis will change their vote for them. Changing votes would be highly frowned upon though, for reasons stated in earlier posts.
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