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Mariofan9
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Hello. Sorry if this is out of place or just plain stupid, but ...
Recently, I've been seeing some stuff happening in the forum "Gaming". People have started to flame each other's consoles a bit. After a topic full of anti-Wii remarks, I got stingy myself, I admit.
If someone says "Take a PS3, because Wii sucks", is this flamebait? See, the second remark is unnecessary and not voiced in a friendly manner either.
Now, my question is: If someone attacks a console or just preference in general, can such a post be reported as flamebait? Thanks for your answer. |
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Ocelot
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:06 pm
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If they are saying that you personally suck for choosing a console, it's flamebait.
If someone is expressing their opinion on a console and not a particular person in general, it should not be considered flamebait. And wanting to mark something as flamebait just because it's "Anti-Wii" is idiotic, I have to say.
If somebody gets offended over a remark made about an electronic device, they have bigger problems than getting flamed. |
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PEPSIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
Cherry
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:05 pm
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| Person A wrote: | | The PS3 is a lot better than the Wii. The Wii blows. |
This is an example of an opinion stated harshly, at the very most. It can trigger a flamewar, but it in itself is not flamebait.
| Person B wrote: | | The Wii is for faggots. |
This is flamebait; pinning a negitive label on a group.
| Person C wrote: | | Person D is a fag because he plays Wii. |
This is a flame; singling out a single person and insulting them. |
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Mariofan9
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:14 pm
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| Santa Snake wrote: | If they are saying that you personally suck for choosing a console, it's flamebait.
If someone is expressing their opinion on a console and not a particular person in general, it should not be considered flamebait. And wanting to mark something as flamebait just because it's "Anti-Wii" is idiotic, I have to say.
If somebody gets offended over a remark made about an electronic device, they have bigger problems than getting flamed. |
Very well. You still don't come off as wise or intelligent if you keep attacking a console, though. It's very unfriendly.
| Cherry wrote: | | Person A wrote: | | The PS3 is a lot better than the Wii. The Wii blows. |
This is an example of an opinion stated harshly, at the very most. It can trigger a flamewar, but it in itself is not flamebait.
| Person B wrote: | | The Wii is for faggots. |
This is flamebait; pinning a negitive label on a group.
| Person C wrote: | | Person D is a fag because he plays Wii. |
This is a flame; singling out a single person and insulting them. |
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Still, harshly stated opinions are more or less annoying and I wish there'd be a rule against those also. But anyway, thanks again. |
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Ocelot
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:01 pm
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| Mariofan9 wrote: | | Santa Snake wrote: | If they are saying that you personally suck for choosing a console, it's flamebait.
If someone is expressing their opinion on a console and not a particular person in general, it should not be considered flamebait. And wanting to mark something as flamebait just because it's "Anti-Wii" is idiotic, I have to say.
If somebody gets offended over a remark made about an electronic device, they have bigger problems than getting flamed. |
Very well. You still don't come off as wise or intelligent if you keep attacking a console, though. It's very unfriendly. |
A) I don't care about coming off wise or intelligent to somebody who really has no right to judge.
B) That last statement was really hypocritical. |
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Bartz Klauser
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| Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 5:07 pm
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That topic lacks flamebait. If you feel offended by it, simply do not post. |
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The dude of all marios
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Yes, but people get offended and want to post back, insulting them back or disproving them. Thats how the flamewar starts. |
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Bartz Klauser
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:13 pm
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Responding to flamebait is actually causing flame, so even if one used flamebait, responding to it would be flaming. So if you can't handle it, just leave the topic. It's not like you're bound there. |
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Wacko McGoose
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 2:16 pm
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| Mariofan9 wrote: | | Cherry wrote: | | Person A wrote: | | The PS3 is a lot better than the Wii. The Wii blows. |
This is an example of an opinion stated harshly, at the very most. It can trigger a flamewar, but it in itself is not flamebait.
| Person B wrote: | | The Wii is for faggots. |
This is flamebait; pinning a negitive label on a group.
| Person C wrote: | | Person D is a fag because he plays Wii. |
This is a flame; singling out a single person and insulting them. |
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Still, harshly stated opinions are more or less annoying and I wish there'd be a rule against those also. But anyway, thanks again. |
You can't get benned for having an opinion. It's against the laws of the internet. And I am not talking about the list of rules on ED. I mean the actual laws that govern how things go on the internet. Having an opinion is what keeps the internet from becoming just a pile of whatsit and random "facts". |
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Mariofan9
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:57 pm
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| Launching Star wrote: | | Mariofan9 wrote: | | Cherry wrote: | | Person A wrote: | | The PS3 is a lot better than the Wii. The Wii blows. |
This is an example of an opinion stated harshly, at the very most. It can trigger a flamewar, but it in itself is not flamebait.
| Person B wrote: | | The Wii is for faggots. |
This is flamebait; pinning a negitive label on a group.
| Person C wrote: | | Person D is a fag because he plays Wii. |
This is a flame; singling out a single person and insulting them. |
Ah, thanks for clearing that up. Still, harshly stated opinions are more or less annoying and I wish there'd be a rule against those also. But anyway, thanks again. |
You can't get benned for having an opinion. It's against the laws of the internet. And I am not talking about the list of rules on ED. I mean the actual laws that govern how things go on the internet. Having an opinion is what keeps the internet from becoming just a pile of whatsit and random "facts". |
I know. But I think it should be forbidden to bring your opinion so harshly and unfriendly.
Allow me to give a good and bad example of the same opinion:
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"In my opinion the Wii is a terrible console. It offers very little that suits my taste."
Bad:
"The Wii SUCKS. It has no hardcore games and only stuff for KIDS."
Why is this bad? First of all, a crude statement, and secondly, two debatable statements that are said as fact. |
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Ocelot
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 7:50 pm
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I for one vote that you should just let the *crag* thing go already. |
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Cherry
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| Posted: Fri Dec 19, 2008 10:24 pm
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| Mariofan9 wrote: | "The Wii SUCKS. It has no hardcore games and only stuff for KIDS."
Why is this bad? First of all, a crude statement, and secondly, two debatable statements that are said as fact. |
Stating what you believe as fact is perfectly acceptable, because common sense dictates that you are not actually stating fact.
When scientists write hypotheses, they omit "I think..." or "I predict..." because they realize it's totally arbitrary.
By your logic, your signature is flamebait, as it states your OPINION that Jesus Christ is the lord and savior. It's not proven fact, so it is opinion. |
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Mariofan9
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| Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 7:58 am
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| Cherry wrote: | | Mariofan9 wrote: | "The Wii SUCKS. It has no hardcore games and only stuff for KIDS."
Why is this bad? First of all, a crude statement, and secondly, two debatable statements that are said as fact. |
By your logic, your signature is flamebait, as it states your OPINION that Jesus Christ is the lord and savior. It's not proven fact, so it is opinion. |
One difference: My signature is an opinion statement that promotes my own, not attacks the other. Might I add that the statement in my signature is plain, but far from crude?
| Santa Snake wrote: | | I for one vote that you should just let the *crag* thing go already. |
Agreed. After the thirst three posts, I already had what I was looking for, but it's in my nature to reply to every reply as well as I can. |
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