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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:24 pm   Reply with quote

I've been tossing around this idea for awhile, and I think I'm almost to the point when I want to start doing it.

It is about an average joe office worker who begins writing in a journal upon recommendation of a counselor within his office.

Upon writing down his thoughts day after day, he slowly begins to realize that his life holds now real purpose, that he is just another cog in a machine built for someone else to use as they please. He realizes that he is going to die one day, and no one is going to remember his name. He comes to the grim realization that he is never going to be anything more than an office worker.

He decides to alter his fate and put his name into the history books forever, by becoming a serial killer. Obviously this man is quite unsound, but undoubtley people are going to find some reason in his madness.

And this friends is the effect I want, I want to make people sympathize with a serial killer, and this shall be my triumph.

I've been hesitating upon starting it, because I want to actual write it out on note book paper and then scan it into the computer, make a real diary of sorts. I have some really cool ideas of what I could do with this type of visual representation, I'm just not sure about the finer details.

It will be called The Journal of Blackjack.

Mostly because I like the name Blackjack for a serial killer, and also he is going to use a blackjack in all of his murders.

I think it's going to be really cool showing a murder mystery from the point of the murderer. It is going to be completely first person, meaning you will not get any insight into what society thinks of his actions outside of what is written in the journal.

Thoughts?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:31 pm   Reply with quote

...Wow...
...This, I REALLY want to see...
...If you actually take time and perfect this...
...This could become really nice...



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I think it's going to be really cool showing a murder mystery from the point of the murderer. It is going to be completely first person, meaning you will not get any insight into what society thinks of his actions outside of what is written in the journal.

...One suggestion upon this...
...maybe in the last chapter(s?)...
...You show various "Newspapers" and the stories of his murders, seen from the eyes of the community....
...Just a little flash of cold reality,yes?...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 8:59 pm   Reply with quote

you should try to show some duality in the character, an almost split personality he develops, to sort of shift the blame and responsibility off of himself. ofcourse painting himself as a hero
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:02 pm   Reply with quote

He will be portrayed as the victim, but I still want the decision to be his.

It makes the people reading it feel like bad people.

And I enjoy that. :3
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:35 pm   Reply with quote

Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, anyone?

I don't know, it sounds alright, but... Like I've said, I've seen it before.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:40 pm   Reply with quote

Shrowser wrote:
Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, anyone?

I don't know, it sounds alright, but... Like I've said, I've seen it before.
JOHNNY!!! I love those comics. I only own a few, but I've read them all.


Yeah, while this book sounds AMAZING, it kinda feels already done by Johnny.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:41 pm   Reply with quote

Geno wrote:
Shrowser wrote:
Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, anyone?

I don't know, it sounds alright, but... Like I've said, I've seen it before.
JOHNNY!!! I love those comics. I only own a few, but I've read them all.


yeah, while this book sounds AMAZING, it kinda feels already done by Johnny.
I just got the whole Director's Cut. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:51 pm   Reply with quote

Wow really?

I mean...yes it is about murder.

But the context is completely different.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:54 pm   Reply with quote

Popple wrote:
Wow really?

I mean...yes it is about murder.

But the context is completely different.
Well, yes, the plot, context, etc. are definitely different, but the whole "feeling bad for the killer and feeling bad about yourself" was portrayed in Johnny quite prominently. He made the people he killed feel like shit for who they were. it shows how bad of a place the world really is.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:03 pm   Reply with quote

Well, yes I do wish to achieve that effect, but this book is about more than that.

It's exploring deeper philosophical contents of life and the value of it.

I want people to feel bad because, well because the way I'm portraying it makes it seems as though anyone could become a completely psychotic once faced with the realities of being.

It's more of a realistic, modern Lovecraftian tale than a work of Vasquez.

Not that I don't respect the man, but this is far different than his work.

I mean I love doing comedy, but not in novella forum.

I have always held that comedy is better suited for the visual arts while drama is more for the literary.

There is always some middle ground for the two such as plays, and there are certainly humorous books and serious comics, but this still holds true in most cases.

It is just how the styles work. Comedy is much easier to set up using visual aid to annotate something, while Drama sometimes doesn't work well in a visual sense because there are some facets of character or objects that you want to remain hidden until you are ready to reveal them.

There are certainly ways of counteracting both of these drawbacks, but it is still readily apparent once you take a long hard look at the medium where the line lies on either side.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:04 pm   Reply with quote

It sounds sort of like a super hero... just evil. Double lives and such.

I LOVE first person novels. :D
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:22 pm   Reply with quote

Popple wrote:
Well, yes I do wish to achieve that effect, but this book is about more than that.

It's exploring deeper philosophical contents of life and the value of it.

I want people to feel bad because, well because the way I'm portraying it makes it seems as though anyone could become a completely psychotic once faced with the realities of being.

It's more of a realistic, modern Lovecraftian tale than a work of Vasquez.

Not that I don't respect the man, but this is far different than his work.

I mean I love doing comedy, but not in novella forum.

I have always held that comedy is better suited for the visual arts while drama is more for the literary.

There is always some middle ground for the two such as plays, and there are certainly humorous books and serious comics, but this still holds true in most cases.

It is just how the styles work. Comedy is much easier to set up using visual aid to annotate something, while Drama sometimes doesn't work well in a visual sense because there are some facets of character or objects that you want to remain hidden until you are ready to reveal them.

There are certainly ways of counteracting both of these drawbacks, but it is still readily apparent once you take a long hard look at the medium where the line lies on either side.
Well said. I know where you're coming from now. Very, very deep, indeed.

Oh, and what perspective exactly?

First-person present, or first-person past?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:25 pm   Reply with quote

Technically it would be past.

The journal is going to go all the way up to the end, or at least until he is no longer able to write it for whatever reason.

It is, HOPEFULLY, going to be handwritten on notebook paper.

So in a way I guess you will be your own narrator.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:37 pm   Reply with quote

Popple wrote:
Technically it would be past.

The journal is going to go all the way up to the end, or at least until he is no longer able to write it for whatever reason.

It is, HOPEFULLY, going to be handwritten on notebook paper.

So in a way I guess you will be your own narrator.
That's... unique.

Very unique. I didn't understand what you meant about the notebook paper in an older post, but now it makes sense.

very original. Very unique.


...Hopefully my book idea will end up epic as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 11:27 pm   Reply with quote

That's actually a really good idea. I would probably end it saying that it's being used in a court trial where he's trying to prove his innocence etc. But, hey, that's just me.
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