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Anyone ever notice how, when you get the Smash Ball, and not use it right away, if you get hit, a lot of the time, you lose it right away, while when the computer player gets one, it takes a million and a half hits to shake it loose from them? I've had this problem a LOT, and it's not like I'm holding the SB for a really long time either, just a few seconds, no matter what character. Anyone else think the comp is being a little...biased? |
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Small Sammer Guy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 5:32 pm
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i think final smash altogether is cheap  |
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CFH
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| Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | i think final smash altogether is cheap |
Because you are a faggot about items. Face it, the power of a Final Smash is a great reward for the hardwork of getting it, and usually, those who can get easy Smash Balls have shittier FS, and those who have a harder time around get the better ones.
The thing about losing the Smash Ball, I hear that certain sorts of attacks are the ones capable of knocking off your right to FS. Maybe analyse carefully what are the moves being blown, instead of just labelling them as containing exactly the same power?
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| CFH wrote: | | Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | i think final smash altogether is cheap |
Because you are a faggot about items. Face it, the power of a Final Smash is a great reward for the hardwork of getting it, and usually, those who can get easy Smash Balls have shittier FS, and those who have a harder time around get the better ones. |
Not necessarily. Bowser can, for the most part, break the Smash Ball with a single hit, and he has one of the best Final Smashes in the game. Fox can get the Smash Ball easily, and he, too, has a ridiculous Final Smash. By contrast, Ness and Peach have a harder time grabbing Smash Balls, and their Final Smashes are some of the worst in the game. |
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CFH
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:29 pm
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| ? Block wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | i think final smash altogether is cheap |
Because you are a faggot about items. Face it, the power of a Final Smash is a great reward for the hardwork of getting it, and usually, those who can get easy Smash Balls have shittier FS, and those who have a harder time around get the better ones. |
Not necessarily. Bowser can, for the most part, break the Smash Ball with a single hit, and he has one of the best Final Smashes in the game. Fox can get the Smash Ball easily, and he, too, has a ridiculous Final Smash. By contrast, Ness and Peach have a harder time grabbing Smash Balls, and their Final Smashes are some of the worst in the game. |
Yeah, not necessarily, but some of your examples aren't really good. Peach's FS is a true killer if you use it while someone is trying to revover, and her B+Side, B+Down and floating abilty are nice on the fight for the Smash Ball. Additionally, Bowser's jumping ability really cuts short is ability to fight for a FS, and Ness' Final Smash is ridiculously powerful when it hits, and besides, the PK Thunders do help.
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 6:35 pm
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| CFH wrote: | | ? Block wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | i think final smash altogether is cheap |
Because you are a faggot about items. Face it, the power of a Final Smash is a great reward for the hardwork of getting it, and usually, those who can get easy Smash Balls have shittier FS, and those who have a harder time around get the better ones. |
Not necessarily. Bowser can, for the most part, break the Smash Ball with a single hit, and he has one of the best Final Smashes in the game. Fox can get the Smash Ball easily, and he, too, has a ridiculous Final Smash. By contrast, Ness and Peach have a harder time grabbing Smash Balls, and their Final Smashes are some of the worst in the game. |
Yeah, not necessarily, but some of your examples aren't really good. Peach's FS is a true killer if you use it while someone is trying to revover, and her B+Side, B+Down and floating abilty are nice on the fight for the Smash Ball. Additionally, Bowser's jumping ability really cuts short is ability to fight for a FS, and Ness' Final Smash is ridiculously powerful when it hits, and besides, the PK Thunders do help.
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If I recall correctly, Peach's Final Smash doesn't affect characters in midair until they land. The power of Ness's Final Smash doesn't make a difference when it's ridiculously easy to dodge. |
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LOL I just lost the game!
Tiptron MKII
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:10 pm
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| ? Block wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | ? Block wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | i think final smash altogether is cheap |
Because you are a faggot about items. Face it, the power of a Final Smash is a great reward for the hardwork of getting it, and usually, those who can get easy Smash Balls have shittier FS, and those who have a harder time around get the better ones. |
Not necessarily. Bowser can, for the most part, break the Smash Ball with a single hit, and he has one of the best Final Smashes in the game. Fox can get the Smash Ball easily, and he, too, has a ridiculous Final Smash. By contrast, Ness and Peach have a harder time grabbing Smash Balls, and their Final Smashes are some of the worst in the game. |
Yeah, not necessarily, but some of your examples aren't really good. Peach's FS is a true killer if you use it while someone is trying to revover, and her B+Side, B+Down and floating abilty are nice on the fight for the Smash Ball. Additionally, Bowser's jumping ability really cuts short is ability to fight for a FS, and Ness' Final Smash is ridiculously powerful when it hits, and besides, the PK Thunders do help.
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If I recall correctly, Peach's Final Smash doesn't affect characters in midair until they land. The power of Ness's Final Smash doesn't make a difference when it's ridiculously easy to dodge. |
Well if Ness' FS is used on a small stage it is almost impossible to dodge. Right? I mean when ever I play with my sisters they try and try to dodge it but they can't.  |
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CFH
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| ? Block wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | ? Block wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | i think final smash altogether is cheap |
Because you are a faggot about items. Face it, the power of a Final Smash is a great reward for the hardwork of getting it, and usually, those who can get easy Smash Balls have shittier FS, and those who have a harder time around get the better ones. |
Not necessarily. Bowser can, for the most part, break the Smash Ball with a single hit, and he has one of the best Final Smashes in the game. Fox can get the Smash Ball easily, and he, too, has a ridiculous Final Smash. By contrast, Ness and Peach have a harder time grabbing Smash Balls, and their Final Smashes are some of the worst in the game. |
Yeah, not necessarily, but some of your examples aren't really good. Peach's FS is a true killer if you use it while someone is trying to revover, and her B+Side, B+Down and floating abilty are nice on the fight for the Smash Ball. Additionally, Bowser's jumping ability really cuts short is ability to fight for a FS, and Ness' Final Smash is ridiculously powerful when it hits, and besides, the PK Thunders do help.
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If I recall correctly, Peach's Final Smash doesn't affect characters in midair until they land. The power of Ness's Final Smash doesn't make a difference when it's ridiculously easy to dodge. |
You recall incorrectly. I've tested it.
Also, as I said, when it hits. It sure doesn't do a lot for being quite dodgeable, but if someone gets caught up, it's doomful.
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LOL I just lost the game!
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| CFH wrote: | | ? Block wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | ? Block wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | i think final smash altogether is cheap |
Because you are a faggot about items. Face it, the power of a Final Smash is a great reward for the hardwork of getting it, and usually, those who can get easy Smash Balls have shittier FS, and those who have a harder time around get the better ones. |
Not necessarily. Bowser can, for the most part, break the Smash Ball with a single hit, and he has one of the best Final Smashes in the game. Fox can get the Smash Ball easily, and he, too, has a ridiculous Final Smash. By contrast, Ness and Peach have a harder time grabbing Smash Balls, and their Final Smashes are some of the worst in the game. |
Yeah, not necessarily, but some of your examples aren't really good. Peach's FS is a true killer if you use it while someone is trying to revover, and her B+Side, B+Down and floating abilty are nice on the fight for the Smash Ball. Additionally, Bowser's jumping ability really cuts short is ability to fight for a FS, and Ness' Final Smash is ridiculously powerful when it hits, and besides, the PK Thunders do help.
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If I recall correctly, Peach's Final Smash doesn't affect characters in midair until they land. The power of Ness's Final Smash doesn't make a difference when it's ridiculously easy to dodge. |
You recall incorrectly. I've tested it.
Also, as I said, when it hits. It sure doesn't do a lot for being quite dodgeable, but if someone gets caught up, it's doomful.
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Now isn't that where the power of Ness' FS comes from? |
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| CFH wrote: | | ? Block wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | ? Block wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | i think final smash altogether is cheap |
Because you are a faggot about items. Face it, the power of a Final Smash is a great reward for the hardwork of getting it, and usually, those who can get easy Smash Balls have shittier FS, and those who have a harder time around get the better ones. |
Not necessarily. Bowser can, for the most part, break the Smash Ball with a single hit, and he has one of the best Final Smashes in the game. Fox can get the Smash Ball easily, and he, too, has a ridiculous Final Smash. By contrast, Ness and Peach have a harder time grabbing Smash Balls, and their Final Smashes are some of the worst in the game. |
Yeah, not necessarily, but some of your examples aren't really good. Peach's FS is a true killer if you use it while someone is trying to revover, and her B+Side, B+Down and floating abilty are nice on the fight for the Smash Ball. Additionally, Bowser's jumping ability really cuts short is ability to fight for a FS, and Ness' Final Smash is ridiculously powerful when it hits, and besides, the PK Thunders do help.
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If I recall correctly, Peach's Final Smash doesn't affect characters in midair until they land. The power of Ness's Final Smash doesn't make a difference when it's ridiculously easy to dodge. |
You recall incorrectly. I've tested it.
Also, as I said, when it hits. It sure doesn't do a lot for being quite dodgeable, but if someone gets caught up, it's doomful.
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Couldn't that be said of almost any Final Smash? = / |
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Small Sammer Guy
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| Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:26 pm
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| CFH wrote: | | Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | i think final smash altogether is cheap |
Because you are a faggot about items. Face it, the power of a Final Smash is a great reward for the hardwork of getting it, and usually, those who can get easy Smash Balls have shittier FS, and those who have a harder time around get the better ones.
The thing about losing the Smash Ball, I hear that certain sorts of attacks are the ones capable of knocking off your right to FS. Maybe analyse carefully what are the moves being blown, instead of just labelling them as containing exactly the same power?] |
You know, i actually reported you for calling me a faggot ._.
look, i don't care what YOU think, I only care what I think. Arent' smash balls banned because of certain character? (Sonic, Fox) just test it out, 2 lv 9 CPU, one Sonic, one Mario, see who gets it the most.
look, if someone hates items, dont' be a bitch about it and just respect that persons' reason. not everyone is like you ya know <_<;
i swear, you piss me off everyday, so just calm down. i state my opinion and you bitch about it, not cool. |
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Grandosco
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:01 pm
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| CFH wrote: | | [The thing about losing the Smash Ball, I hear that certain sorts of attacks are the ones capable of knocking off your right to FS. Maybe analyse carefully what are the moves being blown, instead of just labelling them as containing exactly the same power? |
This thread is kinda getting off topic, but this is the kind of answer that satisfies me. Thank you very much. Yes, now I will try to observe which attacks are hitting instead of just labeling them all as a "hit." |
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CFH
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| Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:34 pm
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| Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | Small Sammer Guy wrote: | | i think final smash altogether is cheap |
Because you are a faggot about items. Face it, the power of a Final Smash is a great reward for the hardwork of getting it, and usually, those who can get easy Smash Balls have shittier FS, and those who have a harder time around get the better ones.
The thing about losing the Smash Ball, I hear that certain sorts of attacks are the ones capable of knocking off your right to FS. Maybe analyse carefully what are the moves being blown, instead of just labelling them as containing exactly the same power?] |
You know, i actually reported you for calling me a faggot ._.
look, i don't care what YOU think, I only care what I think. Arent' smash balls banned because of certain character? (Sonic, Fox) just test it out, 2 lv 9 CPU, one Sonic, one Mario, see who gets it the most.
look, if someone hates items, dont' be a bitch about it and just respect that persons' reason. not everyone is like you ya know <_<;
i swear, you piss me off everyday, so just calm down. i state my opinion and you bitch about it, not cool. |
Jeeze, it's just the butt of the expression. Now you please chill, these sorts of oversensitivenesses of yours have caused big time drama and you know it. I know FS aren't perfectly matched up, but so isn't everything, because not even Brawl can acheieve perfection to its ultimate extent.
| Grandosco wrote: | | CFH wrote: | | [The thing about losing the Smash Ball, I hear that certain sorts of attacks are the ones capable of knocking off your right to FS. Maybe analyse carefully what are the moves being blown, instead of just labelling them as containing exactly the same power? |
This thread is kinda getting off topic, but this is the kind of answer that satisfies me. Thank you very much. Yes, now I will try to observe which attacks are hitting instead of just labeling them all as a "hit." |
For the reminder, try out dashes, smashes and items. I heard these are the best functioning ones, but I didn't ry it out myself yet.
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Ohh, THAT makes sense!
Tyler
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Final Smashes = unfair advantage.
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