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Token Nazi?
Zelnor
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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Finally, my idea of how to stop the division of members into "Let us have fun" and "You guys are all spammers."
Let us build - The Digibutter League of Temperance.
Anyone who chooses to enter vows to abide a stricter code of rules then the (rather lax, in my opinion) normal digibutter rules, gets a little rare ribbon collectible (which please will ot be copied) and becomes member in the usergroup "League". Then, there's the League Forum, in which the group members have access only, and the rest can enjoy their. Also, posts and topics from the League forum will not appear in the regular search, but only in a sus-search run over a link in the restricted forum.
And then we do the same for the people who want a spam forum. Whilst most forums that I have visited suggest that NOT having a spam forum and punishing every piece of spam gets the members to leave it be, it's a solution that'll get more easily to pass.
In short,
Spammer Usergroup
League Usergroup
Group restricted Forums with individual sub-searched.
And the normal Digibutter is the meeting ground, for in-between discussion, Your Creations and gaming.
I hope this finds agreement. I think it would be a good solution and would alleviate the forum of a lot of pressure.
And maybe it's even reduce the bandwith costs, as most of Off-Topic's bulk would then be in the under-forum and wouldn't be accessed by the regular search, sparing CPU and bandwith.
Thoughts ? Agreement ? Constructive Critique ? Marriage proposals ? |
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Burn them out
rawrskey
Benned Vampire
Joined: 03 Jun 2007
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Segregation didn't work in the 60s in America, what makes you think it's gonna work in 2008 on an internet forum? |
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BONK!
Pfargtl
Joined: 31 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:01 pm
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Not supported.
What rawrskey said. If it didn't work in the 60's, what makes you think it will work here on a internet forum in 2008?  |
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Elite Nerr
Francis
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:05 pm
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I have considered having a forum for the "goody-goodies". Like for people who have over 100 posts and have not been jailed. |
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Burn them out
rawrskey
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Joined: 03 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:07 pm
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| Francis wrote: | | I have considered having a forum for the "goody-goodies". Like for people who have over 100 posts and have not been jailed. |
You and I both know that's now what a "goody goody" is.
100 posts is just someone who hasn't been here long enough to be corrupted yet <3 |
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jacking off
Small Sammer Guy
Joined: 13 May 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:10 pm
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| Francis wrote: | | I have considered having a forum for the "goody-goodies". Like for people who have over 100 posts and have not been jailed. |
Thats basically a popularity forum, not a good idea. |
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lolz
Shrowser
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:16 pm
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| Francis wrote: | | I have considered having a forum for the "goody-goodies". Like for people who have over 100 posts and have not been jailed. |
How about we just GET MORE STRICT MODS DAMMIT |
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Hellza Ballza
Goron Mask
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:42 pm
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I kinda like your idea Zelnor, I would support if i could see a good example on how it would work... |
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Francis
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I don't want to totally seperate everyone into two groups. We all have varying tolerances of spam, it is not a black and white issue.
But I have considered flagging posts things like "drama", "nonsense", and "YTP" so that you could hide them if you want. |
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Poison
Super Postman
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Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:48 pm
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| Francis wrote: | I don't want to totally seperate everyone into two groups. We all have varying tolerances of spam, it is not a black and white issue.
But I have considered flagging posts things like "drama", "nonsense", and "YTP" so that you could hide them if you want. |
you know I support that.... especially if its self applied Flags, Well and course the community can flag things too but just as a precursor. |
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Fat Tuper
lovegod703
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| O Chunks wrote: | | Francis wrote: | I don't want to totally seperate everyone into two groups. We all have varying tolerances of spam, it is not a black and white issue.
But I have considered flagging posts things like "drama", "nonsense", and "YTP" so that you could hide them if you want. |
you know I support that.... especially if its self applied Flags, Well and course the community can flag things too but just as a precursor. |
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THE BIRTHDAY GIRL
King Harkinian
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Not supported. Sounds too much like what happened with the blacks and whites in America before the 60's. |
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Tails Doll
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| Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:47 pm
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Zelnor believes in segregation? |
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Token Nazi?
Zelnor
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:24 am
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No, Sandslash, I DO NOT BELIEVE IN SEGREGATION. That is an absurd superstition you made up or misunderstood. I have not, in ANY WAY, called for a forced segregation of the community. In fact, my idea is compe
letely unrelated to segregation or discrimination. And I will now prove through supported logical argument why and also reinforce and reintroduce my idea because it seems to have gone into the wrong directions from rawrskeys post on.
Dictionary.com defines "segregation" as | Quote: | American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source - Share This
seg·re·ga·tion Audio Help (sěg'rĭ-gā'shən) Pronunciation Key
n.
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2. The policy or practice of separating people of different races, classes, or ethnic groups, as in schools, housing, and public or commercial facilities, especially as a form of discrimination.
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Whilst it is true that my concept would, in some ways, diverse the population of this forum, there is an enormous bunch of differences to the discrimination of African-American people in the 60s.
1. Nobody is forcibly put into a group
"Memberships" in any of the groups are completely voluntary and can be added or removed with a simple PM to a mod, if I understand the Usergroup system here. Nobody is forced to be in a group, can enter and exit as they please, and most crucially, IS NOT PUT INTO A GROUP FOR ANY OF HIS OR HER PROPTERTIES OR HERITAGE.
2. Belonging to any group grants no substantial advantage or disadvantage.
You can be a goody two shoe or Zelnor, King of Hell and SPAM and nobody will mind. Nobody will blame you, regardless of your choice of group.
3. The grouping has no impact on you as a person and is not governmentally inforced.
As in point 1, you're not forced to comply. The system merely suggests that those that feel more affliated with the far end of the spectrum from SPAM to College Essays should get an otherwise "invisible" forum for them to do as their heart desires without the others noticing. And if you don't like that, you can still use the "middle ground" normal Digibutter. This system also has no impact on your private life, job, education or other aspect and does not affect you as a person.
And now to paraphrase my idea:
See it as two clubs, one for spammers, one for those who want "more substantial topics". Digibutter as it is now stays the same, only the posts are more divided into three bulks before sub-divided into forums.
Membership is awarded, controlled and maybe taken away by one or two mods per group (Spam, Normal, League). Those mods are also directly responsible for their "jurisdiction" of the forum. This would set clearer boundaries and responsibilities. The mods that want to actively combat spam can go exterminate those that go too far in the hardcore forum, the others look over those sworn under the harsher code.
It's like a gentleman's club (League), a park (Normal Digibutter) and a sports center with a strip club (Spam forum, especially the boxing ring)
Happy now ? |
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CFH
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| Pokémoneinstein wrote: | | O Chunks wrote: | | Francis wrote: | I don't want to totally seperate everyone into two groups. We all have varying tolerances of spam, it is not a black and white issue.
But I have considered flagging posts things like "drama", "nonsense", and "YTP" so that you could hide them if you want. |
you know I support that.... especially if its self applied Flags, Well and course the community can flag things too but just as a precursor. |
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This idea is very well support'd. I liked Zelnor's idea, but this is better.
Additionally, why are you guys thinking the America on 60's work the same way? IRL, you don't have a problem with spammers. The WTC wasn't spammed and deleted by forum raiders. Hitler didn't found the grammar nazism. The poor aren't just unable to buy random items, but are supposed to go through hardships such as hunger. Heck, IRL, we call the postcount "penis", and it has a "tits" female version. RPing is all about either cosplaying or looking like a complete idiot in public. So, yeah. |
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