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Lord Bob
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Because I felt like it.
It feels like some of the laws were really not thought through, or they were invented on purpose to favor the enemy. It doesn't help that they only can affect you now, either. Personally, compared to FFTA's laws, I am in love with the laws from FFTA. |
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TooManyToasters
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Joined: 20 May 2007
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Laws only affect the player this time? Damn. There are still antilaws, right? |
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Lord Bob
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This game would be so much easier if that were true. |
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Parabuzzy Queen
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Joined: 18 Jun 2007
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| Lord Bob wrote: | Because I felt like it.
It feels like some of the laws were really not thought through, or they were invented on purpose to favor the enemy. It doesn't help that they only can affect you now, either. Personally, compared to FFTA's laws, I am in love with the laws from FFTA. |
Same here.I actually quite liked FFTA's law system, and think it was fantastic compared to the crappy one they've got now. :< |
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Lord Bob
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Yeah, seriously.
Solitude, grouping? COME ON. I AM NOT GOING TO ABIDE BY THOSE. I HAVE *crag* HUNTERS. THEY WORK BEST ON THEIR OWN. AND I HAVE PHYSICAL FIGHTERS THAT CAN'T USE RANGED ATTACKS. BAD LAWS, BAD! |
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Lord Bob
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Oh, look at this. I came across a new law just now. HP less than or equal to 100. NO HP UNDER 100!
YEAH, BECAUSE I CAN FOLLOW THAT. THESE LAWS WERE REALLY NOT THOUGHT OUT. |
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? Block
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Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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At the very least, the penalty for disobeying them isn't quite as bad. It'd be one thing if you still got sent to prison, but this time, at least, breaking the law doesn't COMPLETELY screw you over. |
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The Axolotl Sympathist
Geno
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Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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I was actually gonna get this game sort-of soonish, but after reading tis stuff, it's quickly driving me away. D: |
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TooManyToasters
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Joined: 20 May 2007
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:27 am
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| Geno wrote: | | I was actually gonna get this game sort-of soonish, but after reading tis stuff, it's quickly driving me away. D: |
From the sound of it, they're not really game-breaking. I'm still getting it. |
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The Axolotl Sympathist
Geno
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Joined: 26 Jul 2007
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| Engineer wrote: | | Geno wrote: | | I was actually gonna get this game sort-of soonish, but after reading tis stuff, it's quickly driving me away. D: |
From the sound of it, they're not really game-breaking. I'm still getting it. |
True. I guess if you don't go to jail it's okay... But what's with no one under 100HP? How the hell do we regulate that? |
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Boomer (redundancy!)
Boomer
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Unless you're doing one of the few missions where the objective is "Uphold the Law and do whatever", you can just ignore the law, SSSS-BLAM. the law bonus items are nothing great.
the only downsides to breaking the law are being unable to revive defeated characters (which usually isn't a problem; I only had one character die in the final boss fight), and losing your clan privilege (and until you get good privileges like MP Channeling and Move up, this isn't a problem either.)
there may not be antilaws, but there's always only one law per battle.
and yes, some of them are completely ridiculous, like (paraphrased):
Only Move exactly 3 tiles
Having less than 100 HP
Doing over 20 Damage
Don't use over 20 MP (per attack)
Don't get stuff stolen from you |
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Nersop
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Laws mean absolutely nothing when you have an Item Lore'd Ranger running around using Mirror X-Potions on everybody :D
Game: "VIOLATION! YOU NO LONGER HAVE YOUR CLAN BONUS >:("
Me: *Mirror X-Potion* "Oh that thing?" *Another Mirror X-Potion* "Can't say I really needed that. *Another Mirror X-Potion*
Game: "COMPLETE!" |
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Parabuzzy Queen
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Well, the laws are good for one thing.
They make crazy FFXI GMs want to implement them.
D:? |
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Lord Bob
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| ? Block wrote: | | At the very least, the penalty for disobeying them isn't quite as bad. It'd be one thing if you still got sent to prison, but this time, at least, breaking the law doesn't COMPLETELY screw you over. |
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That is just an excuse to allow these insane laws in. I KNOW IT IS. |
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Parabuzzy Queen
Macha
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| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 5:58 pm
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| Lord Bob wrote: | | ? Block wrote: | | At the very least, the penalty for disobeying them isn't quite as bad. It'd be one thing if you still got sent to prison, but this time, at least, breaking the law doesn't COMPLETELY screw you over. |
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That is just an excuse to allow these insane laws in. I KNOW IT IS. |
Probably.
FFTA2 Developer: Hmm... How sadistic can I be without spawning a massive fan riot? |
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