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Abstract
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:32 pm   Reply with quote

The only way that this system will work with the coins is the percentage method.

I know the rich members don't like it, but that's the point. Losing a large amount of coins would make someone want to avoid strikes more often. Richer members are actually getting away with things easier right now, and the poor are taking full punishment 3/4 of the time.

100 coins is still too much, the poor still suffer more than the rich.

Set it to 10% coin-loss on the first offence, 20% at the second, and 50% at the third.
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Yoshio
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:12 am   Reply with quote

Goron Mask wrote:
Not supported. Not like it matters since everyone would disagree with me anyways if I tried to defend it so in all seriousness maybe you can make it so if someone gets to many strikes in a day that one of the mods can have permission to jail you or something among those lines.


I agree with this statement in its entirity
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:20 am   Reply with quote

I have now forced franis to change this rule.

http://digibutter.nerr.biz/viewtopic.php?p=1311242#1311242
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Yoshio
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:23 am   Reply with quote

are you kidding?

He'll make that the new index header!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:21 pm   Reply with quote

Vid Inferno wrote:
I agree on how fines need to be straightened up. However, having a large amount of coins does not justify how the richer get a worse fine. I think the minimum for strikes should be at least 25 coins, and possibly allowing mods and/or Francis to adjust the coin amount for various levels of crime, up to a maximum of 100 coins. Also, like I thought the system previously worked before, the third strike should, regardless of payment of fine or not, jails the member. However, paying the fine would take away the extra jail time which one would get from a single strike.

THIS.

Seriously, 100 coins is more than you think. It's perfectly fine, any other ways to target the rich without caps on how much will just make them abuse the hell out of Gold Bars. If we do the 10% thing, that means I lose nearly 2000 for a single strike. That's more than most members have period.


Guess what I do? Buy 1000 Gold-Bar-24Ks, that's 10,000 coins but can be sold for the same amount, guess what, I now only lose 7000 upon being striked. Hey, I buy 600 more. Guess how many coins I lose each strike now? 100. That's 1900 coins I just saved. See how abusable that is?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:49 pm   Reply with quote

UltiMario wrote:
Vid Inferno wrote:
I agree on how fines need to be straightened up. However, having a large amount of coins does not justify how the richer get a worse fine. I think the minimum for strikes should be at least 25 coins, and possibly allowing mods and/or Francis to adjust the coin amount for various levels of crime, up to a maximum of 100 coins. Also, like I thought the system previously worked before, the third strike should, regardless of payment of fine or not, jails the member. However, paying the fine would take away the extra jail time which one would get from a single strike.

THIS.
YARLY. Why should I have to pay 700 coins just because I did one little thing wrong? And why does being rich make you all of a sudden different from anyone else? All fines the same unless under certain circumstances. :U
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The Carmadox Party    
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:59 pm   Reply with quote

AbstractThoughts wrote:
The only way that this system will work with the coins is the percentage method.

I know the rich members don't like it, but that's the point. Losing a large amount of coins would make someone want to avoid strikes more often. Richer members are actually getting away with things easier right now, and the poor are taking full punishment 3/4 of the time.

100 coins is still too much, the poor still suffer more than the rich.

Set it to 10% coin-loss on the first offence, 20% at the second, and 50% at the third.

I agree with abstactthoughts. How are people like me gonna pay 110 coins? I only got like 20.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:18 pm   Reply with quote



What about for members like me?I rarely break the rules, and I barely have any money.If I break one rule it would be unfair to give me a 100 - 300 coin fine, when all of the rich people can get so many strikes and still be rich.
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Yoshio
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:22 pm   Reply with quote

If some rich person like Francine goes around abusing the system Francis can just throw them in jail

there's no reason to reform the fine system
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