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Popple
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 Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:36 am
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It seems that everone is up to speed so let's get on with it.
This is an RP system that will work for everyone, and I'm confident there will be no qualms.
This is not an RPOT system however, so if that's what you want stop reading this right now.
First off, I'm going to post what I previously said in the topic Moi locked.
He locked it because I said the OT RPOT war was a mask I used for my own design, but that was in fact as lie.
I did this to make the mods act and fix the RP I invaded, I didn't expect them to lock the topic this was in, but then again this is Moi and even if he says he is no longer biased I know it's a lie but I don't really care.
The fact is I have nothing to do with the OT RPOT war, and I really don't care about it. I would be much happier with the forum coexisting than having futile arguments that do nothing positive for the site.
This should show you that I didn't want to ruin your RP topic, I just had to use it to get the attention I needed. In fact assuming that most people read what I posted in the Cbox last night, everyone is already waiting for my next move and should flock to this post.
So let's begin.
| Quote: | I think everyone has misunderstood my stance on this.
You are right that I don't want RPOT to mold with RP, that's true.
But that isn't the main issue.
The problem with RPOT is that they think they can go around making plots and then act like anyone can join it.
Plots that, let's face it, use characters that only those in RPOT know.
Anyone who has not been to RPOT do not know what these characters look like unless they have an avatar, who they are in any respect, where they are from, age, gender in some cases, and basically every other piece of basic information that is needed to actually interact with characters that exist purely on text.
They don't seem to *crag* understand that anyone who hasn't been to RPOT a lot has absolutely no idea who the *crag* they are talking about or what the *crag* they are doing, but since they are enjoying themselves they refuse to change.
I asked Spiny himself if there is anywhere on Digibutter where information on these characters can be located, and he cannot present me with anything.
The fact is the character sheets are essential to RPing, otherwise it doesn't work.
Yet these people who use the same characters over and over and over can't sit down for five minutes and write out a basic bio because "They shouldn't have to." or "This is the way we want to role play and we are having fun, so shut up."
They are completely ignorant of other member's feelings on the RP boards, and thanks to the RPOT system they have created a completely static forum where only they can exist.
It's *crag* stupid that so many people get mad over the fact that I am triyng to make RP fun for everyone.
The fact is, a lot of RPOTers are too *crag* stubborn to change.
And as long as this fact remains intact, there is no way to change RP other than by brute force and rubbing the *crag* proof in their faces. |
No.
RPOT will have to leave RP.
This is fact.
If you want to bring your plots over to RP, don't.
I don't care if it's a rule, it doesn't make sense. People who say it's RPOT and not RPLOT are ignorant idiots who don't even see that plots are simply the structure that checks role plays interesting.
These people are also hypocrites, because they complain the plots cause their posts not to get noticed when their spamming of stupid one offs is the real cause of this.
So RPOT will no be leaving RP.
This is final.
I shouldn't have to argue over this point, and I will not.
You have your own forum, stay out of the other one's.
Some people would actually like to use it.
Now, onto the real business.
I will be opening a group.
This group is called RP characters.
This will be a group where you can make a topic containing all of your bios for all of your characters.
This will allow you to use your characters in RP plots without having to repast a character sheet or come up with a new character if you do not want to.
Unless the topic creator specifically specifies it, any character can be used in RP.
Only original characters are to be posted under you and owned by you. You do not own game characters, this is RP not RPOT. If someone needs/wants to use a game character in their plot, they have every right too.
This does not mean however that you cannot claim rights to characters you have created based in a universe. For instance if you had a character in the Mario universe name Joe the Plumber. You have claim to this character and no one else can use it.
All plots in RP will be constrained to one topic unless that plot ends and you would like to make a sequel. This is how it has always worked so this should not be a problem.
I'm considering having a select group of individuals be designated as RP Mods and review character sheets posted under the group to determine whether or not they meet the bar for what one should expect out of an RP character.
Namely, if it has all the basic information one needs to use this character.
RPOT users are welcome to use this group to post character sheets and bios in. Please do not *crag* post characters not owned by you or I will slit your throat.
Please put in the topic that these characters are for RPOT, assuming the RP Mod system is put into practice, so that they are not reviewed as such.
Novel style has never been an issue, and if you bring it up again I will be forced to murder you.
No one cares how you RP, so stop saying they do.
This system appeals to the major needs that RP needs to become lively again.
It allows for plots to be made quickly without the need for making up new characters while still supplying the basic needs for a serious role play.
If you would like me to flesh this system out more simple ask politely.
Enjoy. |
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oar
Super Maiq the Liar
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:43 am
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Well said, Popple. It actually does make sense on how the characters in RPOT just appear in RP with no explanation of who the hell they are.
On top of that, I'm gonna have to sit down and write bios for my original characters sometime, just so people won't get confused in the future provided RP gets a decent upgrade.(like allowing us to add bios to our alts) |
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High Priestess Paula
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:14 pm
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Look. I don't see why these Character sheets are so *crag* important to you. "There's nooo way
of finding what the character looks like, or how he acts, or evun its gendur D:" Umm...read the TOPIC?
Seriously.
Then there's the "Ignore the rulez they dun maek sense" Actually, Plots would be like a topic...
so Role play off topic would be like role playing...OUT SIDE OF PLOTS. Then the fact is...Francis made that
rule himself.
Then, look at the back of the ROLE PLAY forum. There's many stupid posts, worse than the supposed horrible-
ness of Role play off topic.
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Popple
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:24 pm
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| Maya Fey wrote: | Look. I don't see why these Character sheets are so *crag* important to you. "There's nooo way
of finding what the character looks like, or how he acts, or evun its gendur D:" Umm...read the TOPIC?
Seriously.
Then there's the "Ignore the rulez they dun maek sense" Actually, Plots would be like a topic...
so Role play off topic would be like role playing...OUT SIDE OF PLOTS. Then the fact is...Francis made that
rule himself.
Then, look at the back of the ROLE PLAY forum. There's many stupid posts, worse than the supposed horrible-
ness of Role play off topic.
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I don't care if Francis made the rule.
Even if he is the admin, that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be changed.
Also, it is impossible to locate all of the necessary information one would need to interact with a character in a single RP topic. There is no way. No one is ever going to reveal that much basic information through standard interacting with other characters. It doesn't happen like tat.
The reason RPOT is almost impossible for new people to get into is because no one but the vets know what is going on.
Also, you are the biggest hypocrites ever.
You want to post whatever you want in RPOT, but if people want to have plots in RPOT, you tell them to get out.
Is that fair?
Think about what you are saying before you make ignorant comments. |
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Black Yoshi
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 12:34 pm
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Well, despite being one of the ignorant pricks you are attempting to bring about change against... I honestly have to say that this would work out for the better in most cases. There are a few points that I don't agree with, I see where you would be going with this and agree with it... but don't make it sound like everyone who posts in RPOT is a moron, because that is bullshit.
As for the whole RPLOT thing, nobody was going to go against a rule that Francis established himself. Topics like the one you were arguing in would likely be moved to RP if they were posted in RPOT. |
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Shadow Kingdom
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:52 pm
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My thoughts, errr, not quite exactly, and vastly expanded. I mean, who the hell is going to know what the hell is going to know whats going on when, say, SK uses the Neladi Oress two months AFTER the plot is over, with no mention of it? Only the few people who had reason to care about the plot. We need that character creation topic back. |
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Popple
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:59 pm
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| Shadow Kingdom wrote: | | My thoughts, errr, not quite exactly, and vastly expanded. I mean, who the hell is going to know what the hell is going to know whats going on when, say, SK uses the Neladi Oress two months AFTER the plot is over, with no mention of it? Only the few people who had reason to care about the plot. We need that character creation topic back. |
I don't understand a *crag* word you just said. |
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oar
Super Maiq the Liar
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:03 pm
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| Popple wrote: | | Shadow Kingdom wrote: | | My thoughts, errr, not quite exactly, and vastly expanded. I mean, who the hell is going to know what the hell is going to know whats going on when, say, SK uses the Neladi Oress two months AFTER the plot is over, with no mention of it? Only the few people who had reason to care about the plot. We need that character creation topic back. |
I don't understand a *crag* word you just said. |
In short, he brought up the example of somebody creating a character for some plot, and spontaneously reviving them two months later when said plot is long gone. The person then usually expects everybody to know just who they are, despite the fact that any and all evidence of their existance has been long purged from the forum. |
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Popple
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:18 am
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| Maiq the Liar wrote: | | Popple wrote: | | Shadow Kingdom wrote: | | My thoughts, errr, not quite exactly, and vastly expanded. I mean, who the hell is going to know what the hell is going to know whats going on when, say, SK uses the Neladi Oress two months AFTER the plot is over, with no mention of it? Only the few people who had reason to care about the plot. We need that character creation topic back. |
I don't understand a *crag* word you just said. |
In short, he brought up the example of somebody creating a character for some plot, and spontaneously reviving them two months later when said plot is long gone. The person then usually expects everybody to know just who they are, despite the fact that any and all evidence of their existance has been long purged from the forum. |
Yes, this system would fix that.
That is one of the major problems with RPOT right now that most people fail to acknowledge for god knows why. |
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Flavio
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:20 am
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| Popple wrote: | | Maiq the Liar wrote: | | Popple wrote: | | Shadow Kingdom wrote: | | My thoughts, errr, not quite exactly, and vastly expanded. I mean, who the hell is going to know what the hell is going to know whats going on when, say, SK uses the Neladi Oress two months AFTER the plot is over, with no mention of it? Only the few people who had reason to care about the plot. We need that character creation topic back. |
I don't understand a *crag* word you just said. |
In short, he brought up the example of somebody creating a character for some plot, and spontaneously reviving them two months later when said plot is long gone. The person then usually expects everybody to know just who they are, despite the fact that any and all evidence of their existance has been long purged from the forum. |
Yes, this system would fix that.
That is one of the major problems with RPOT right now that most people fail to acknowledge for god knows why. |
BUT POOPLE YOU DUNT UNDERSTAND THEY DUN LIKE TO ROLEPLAY DAT WAI. SCREW ORGANIZATION AND QUALITY, IT IS TOO MUCH WORK FOR DEM AN THER FIEN WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM. CHANGE WOULD JUST BE STOOPID.. |
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Ocelot
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 12:31 am
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I agree with the character sheets idea, even though god knows I only have a small handful of original characters. If anyone chooses to bring that up, I will personally stick a pipe-bomb up your ass.
There isn't much in your post that I disagree with, although I probably am one of the RPOT Vets you're talking about. The Plots-Stay-in-RPOT appealed to me a lot, as it seemed kind of pointless to spread a single plot through two forums, while creating clutter in the RP forum in the end...
At first I saw this topic as sort of a bitter jab at what I held dear on this site, but after rereading it a few times I have to say I agree with what you're saying. |
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:39 am
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| Ocelot wrote: | I agree with the character sheets idea, even though god knows I only have a small handful of original characters. If anyone chooses to bring that up, I will personally stick a pipe-bomb up your ass.
There isn't much in your post that I disagree with, although I probably am one of the RPOT Vets you're talking about. The Plots-Stay-in-RPOT appealed to me a lot, as it seemed kind of pointless to spread a single plot through two forums, while creating clutter in the RP forum in the end...
At first I saw this topic as sort of a bitter jab at what I held dear on this site, but after rereading it a few times I have to say I agree with what you're saying. |
It doesn't only apply to OC's, it can easily apply to the traditional characters you use, becuase a good deal of them don't fit what they are at all.
Prime examples? Look at a good deal of Crazy Cody's alts.(I'm annoyed with the fact that he's always the first to come to mind for these examples) Kamek likely isn't what the typical Mario fan feels is Kamek. Cody has developed Kamek to the point where he is an entirely different character. Same could be said for Maya, Mister I, and Strong Bad sometimes. |
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That rich guy
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 2:03 am
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| Emma Emmerich wrote: | Look. I don't see why these Character sheets are so *crag* important to you. "There's nooo way
of finding what the character looks like, or how he acts, or evun its gendur D:" Umm...read the TOPIC?
Seriously.
Then there's the "Ignore the rulez they dun maek sense" Actually, Plots would be like a topic...
so Role play off topic would be like role playing...OUT SIDE OF PLOTS. Then the fact is...Francis made that
rule himself.
Then, look at the back of the ROLE PLAY forum. There's many stupid posts, worse than the supposed horrible-
ness of Role play off topic.
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Every single sentence in that post made we want to track you down, walk up to your door, ring the doorbell, and punch you in the face.
Popple's entire point was that reading the topic doesn't work. you need to read a minimum of 50 or more topics, none of which look related at first, to get a good grasp of a character. I know. I tried being in RPOT for a while. I left for a week. I came back and I didn't have a clue what was going on, because most of the topics I needed to be reading were already 3 or 4 pages back.
Oh, and the comments on the "back of RP" make me want to do a lot more than punch you.
so, please, try and think about what you say: are you going to annoy someone? actually no, that's a terrible question. You are going to annoy someone when you try to talk about this. It's too controversial.
Anyway, I'd have to say I agree with everything Popple said.
I don't even RP that much anymore.
I miss the old RP still. but it's not going to come back. especially with RPOT so out of control.
Wow, I sound like an old man going off on a rant. |
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Shadow Kingdom
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:16 am
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| Popple wrote: | | Shadow Kingdom wrote: | | My thoughts, errr, not quite exactly, and vastly expanded. I mean, who the hell is going to know what the hell is going to know whats going on when, say, SK uses the Neladi Oress two months AFTER the plot is over, with no mention of it? Only the few people who had reason to care about the plot. We need that character creation topic back. |
I don't understand a *crag* word you just said. |
Exactly. |
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Cherry
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:34 am
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Back off, guys. Popple's right about this.
I don't agree with the segregation of OCs and canon characters that he's mentioned before, but he's mostly right. |
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