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MattTheSpratt
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| BBC News wrote: | A terminally ill girl has won the right to refuse treatment after a hospital ended its bid to force her to have a heart transplant.
Herefordshire Primary Care Trust (PCT) dropped a High Court case after a child protection officer said Hannah Jones was adamant she did not want surgery.
Hannah, 13, of Marden, near Hereford, said she wanted to die with dignity.
Her father Andrew said he and his wife supported her decision but they had been upset by the PCT's actions.
He said Hereford County Hospital's child protection team had contacted them in February threatening to remove Hannah from their care if they did not bring her to hospital for the operation.
"The threat that somebody could come and forcibly remove your daughter from you... was quite upsetting really" - Andrew Jones
Hannah, who has a hole in her heart, had been offered a transplant in July 2007 but said she did not want to go through with it after taking advice from doctors, Mr Jones said.
She said the operation might not work, and if it did work, it would be followed by constant medication.
Hannah was interviewed by the child protection officer after the trust applied for a court order in February to force the transplant.
She said she wanted to stop treatment and spend the rest of her life at home and the PCT subsequently withdrew its legal action.
Mr Jones said: "The threat that somebody could come and forcibly remove your daughter from you against her wishes, against our wishes, was quite upsetting really."
He added: "We didn't get too involved in (Hannah's) decision.
"Hannah made that decision consciously on her own, a bit like a grown up, even though she was only 12 at the time and she has maintained that decision.
"How she coped with it, what her mind was thinking at the time, I've got great admiration for her in that and, as I said, we have to support her and her decision."
Hannah previously suffered from leukaemia and her heart has been weakened by drugs she was required to take from the age of five.
Last week her father was forced to cancel plans to take her to Disneyland because he could not get insurance for her.
The family had been given the holiday to the US by the charity Cauldwell Children.
Dr Tony Calland, chairman of the British Medical Association's ethics committee, said a child of Hannah's age was able to make an informed decision to refuse treatment.
He said the House of Lords had ruled in the 1980s that a child who understood the issues and consequences could be considered legally competent.
It followed the case of Victoria Gillick who took her health authority to court claiming she should be informed if her daughters were prescribed contraception.
It was reported that in Hannah's case, the trust intervened after a locum GP raised concerns over her with the child protection team.
Dr Calland said he understood why a doctor might have taken this action.
He said: "I think some doctors take the view that they must intervene and they are making that decision in what they see as the best interests of the patient.
"But of course best interests of patients is not just the best medical interests - it's the overall holistic interests of the person in general."
He added: "I think obviously a child of 13 with these circumstances should be perfectly capable of making the decision and particularly when supported by the parents." |
IMO, people should take a lesson from this girl's outstanding bravery and just do something they're afraid of doing.
Fear of heights? Go parachute-jumping!
Fear of the dark? Go into the attic!
Just ignore your fears and go for it.
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...oh yeah, discuss. |
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Popple
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It's ridiculous that the doctors were going to force her into surgery.
What happened to pride, what happened to dignity?
Are we has humans now just machines that are keep on constant life support by government and big businesses?
Are we nothing but a resource?
What the *crag* have we become. |
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Spiny
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:02 am
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Now THIS is bravery.
Not trying to live life with paralyzed limbs.
Not surviving something that probably has chances of causing the above.
This.ಠ_ಠ |
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Larry Koopa
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 11:53 am
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You forgot one buddy.
Fear of death? Kill yourself! |
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Ocelot
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:26 pm
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^ Alright, that made me laugh my ass off Larry. xD
Personally, I believe that the doctors need to get over themselves. Forcing someone into surgery against their will because you have a shiny degree and a fancy title? What happened to having respect for other's wishes and the right to refuse treatment? |
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Crappiest Animator ever.
Chaos-Stev-0
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 2:31 pm
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Wow. That girl has guts. Had something like that happened to me, I might not have had the guts to do it, but after seeing this, I can say that I might. |
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Cid
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:14 pm
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Is it prideful? Of course.
But we must remember- pride isn't always a good thing. In all honesty, I find that not being able to think, breathe, or exist is far worse than a limited life. Non-existance is the ultimate destruction; not being able to think, be aware, or experience what is happening in the world is far worse than any pain.
Now, of course, it's her choice, not ours. If she wants to die, so be it. However, think about this- just because she thinks she's dying in a dignified way, should we be required to view her decision as "brave?" Or could it just as easily be classified as "cowardice?" Are one's beliefs correct just because they think they are, and it's wrong to disagree with them?
After all, some people truly, full-heartedly believe that homosexuals are sinful people, and should be damned to hell. However, no matter how emotional they make it appear, or how tearfully they defend their beliefs, it doesn't make them right.
So, she has the to refuse treatment, thus taking her life. She can do whatever the hell she wants with herself, and it really isn't the right of the government or authorities to come in and tell people what to do. However, that doesn't mean that we should be required to give in to emotion and respect her position, or completely agree with it. |
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greenkirby
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I feel that that is the bravest girl that I have read about I think would have to at least try with the heart transplant, but even if it worked I feel she made a very good point in why not to go threw with is because of the medical treatment over and over and over again. This topic is so great and really needs action to it with a side of depression I don't even think that any grammar Nazi can correct any mistake and still have dignity. |
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vdogam3r
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:34 pm
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Wow...
Talk about bravery!
I probably woulda been scared. REALLY scared. |
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Jolene
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 1:42 pm
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I don't know why but this thread made me really happy and renewed my faith in today's world~ |
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