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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 1:47 pm   Reply with quote

Perrault wrote:
And while we're on the subject of plotholes... *shot*

Nah, I kind of still like Square Enix. They might have done some things *coughtheafter* with some of their games *coughffiv* that I don't particularly like, but they manage to balance that out with awesome like TWEWY. :3

I kind of lol'd at the height discrepancies, though.
What was so great about TWEWY?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:09 pm   Reply with quote

Oh no! The heights seem somewhat out of porportions! Oh god! If charectr hieghts seem somewhat out of propotions all the games they made CLEARLY are with big rigs: Over the road racing.

And its a videogame! Come on. do you expect it to be totally realistic? If it was all about realism, there would be no videogames as nobody would want to play a game where you are a accountant with a wife name Shirley.

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If they suck, why do most of the games have massively high reviews?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:52 pm   Reply with quote

Totally, final fantasy sucks, that's why you play Dragon Quest! Very Happy
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lol, just kidding. Well, I mean, I like Dragon Quest way better, but Final Fantasy is good too. However, yeah, I agree that it isn't perfect. It bugs me when characters use swords when guns are clearly available...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 3:58 pm   Reply with quote

Manpersonguything wrote:
Oh no! The heights seem somewhat out of porportions! Oh god! If charectr hieghts seem somewhat out of propotions all the games they made CLEARLY are with big rigs: Over the road racing.

And its a videogame! Come on. do you expect it to be totally realistic? If it was all about realism, there would be no videogames as nobody would want to play a game where you are a accountant with a wife name Shirley.

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If they suck, why do most of the games have massively high reviews?


Who said anything sucked?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:50 pm   Reply with quote

You know, I'm wondering something...

Does Cloud's height take into account his hair? 'Cause that stuff probably adds another foot or so to it...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 4:54 pm   Reply with quote

? Block wrote:
You know, I'm wondering something...

Does Cloud's height take into account his hair? 'Cause that stuff probably adds another foot or so to it...
That would make sense if it did. I guess all that hair gel would add to the weight as well.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:40 pm   Reply with quote

Fat Tuper wrote:
You have really shitty reasons for saying they're dumb and have no common sense, but I agree with you. I totally disagree about all the FF midget stuff, but I agree that a lot of them are stupid. Do you know why? Because they didn't fulfill Sakurai's request to put Geno in Brawl. Why does this make them stupid? 1) It would please a bazillion fans if they let Geno in Brawl. 2) They would get a bazillion dollars. 3) Having one Square Enix character is better than none. 4) Making a bazillion dollars is better than making no dollars. Razz

———————————>awesome
Because a single game from the 90's has driven Square's budget indefinitely. Seriously. Geno isn't that big to them. He's just in one game, where as there are far larger characters such as Loto, Cloud, Squall, Tidus, Cecil Harvey, Golbez, Kefka, Zidane that could easily represent SE far better than that.

Now, lemme ask you this, which is more popular. SMRPG, or the entire FF series.

SMRPG, or Dragon Quest?

SMRPG, or, hell, the Mana franchise.

SMRPG isn't that big of a deal. Did it save them from bankruptcy? No. Was it the most famous product of Enix Corp.? No.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:42 pm   Reply with quote

Fancy HK-47 wrote:
Perrault wrote:
And while we're on the subject of plotholes... *shot*

Nah, I kind of still like Square Enix. They might have done some things *coughtheafter* with some of their games *coughffiv* that I don't particularly like, but they manage to balance that out with awesome like TWEWY. :3

I kind of lol'd at the height discrepancies, though.
What was so great about TWEWY?
Good battle system, music, art direction, characters... meh, I liked 'em, at least.

Just using it as an example, though.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:48 pm   Reply with quote

Perrault wrote:
Fancy HK-47 wrote:
Perrault wrote:
And while we're on the subject of plotholes... *shot*

Nah, I kind of still like Square Enix. They might have done some things *coughtheafter* with some of their games *coughffiv* that I don't particularly like, but they manage to balance that out with awesome like TWEWY. :3

I kind of lol'd at the height discrepancies, though.
What was so great about TWEWY?
Good battle system, music, art direction, characters... meh, I liked 'em, at least.

Just using it as an example, though.
I must be listening to the wrong songs, because all the ones I've heard 've sucked.
Art direction? By that you mean
I'm on the fifth day, and the characters are all pretty shallow. The characters should not seem shallow as hell when you are more than halfway through the game.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:50 pm   Reply with quote

Fancy HK-47 wrote:
Perrault wrote:
Fancy HK-47 wrote:
Perrault wrote:
And while we're on the subject of plotholes... *shot*

Nah, I kind of still like Square Enix. They might have done some things *coughtheafter* with some of their games *coughffiv* that I don't particularly like, but they manage to balance that out with awesome like TWEWY. :3

I kind of lol'd at the height discrepancies, though.
What was so great about TWEWY?
Good battle system, music, art direction, characters... meh, I liked 'em, at least.

Just using it as an example, though.
I must be listening to the wrong songs, because all the ones I've heard 've sucked.
Art direction? By that you mean
I'm on the fifth day, and the characters are all pretty shallow. The characters should not seem shallow as hell when you are more than halfway through the game.
The fifth day is no more than 1/4 of the quarter of the game, y'know? And even then, it ties back together later, and you'll understand a lot of it.

The entire game spans three weeks, not including the rather hilarious Another Day chapter.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:51 pm   Reply with quote

Perrault wrote:
Good

Perrault wrote:
art direction

Perrault wrote:
characters

Yes. Let's make our characters angsty tweenage fashion victims. They'll eat that shit up.
I've never played TWEWY, so I can't really judge its fun factor, but I hate its style with every fiber of my being. ФֻФ
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:53 pm   Reply with quote

rASSto wrote:
Perrault wrote:
Good

Perrault wrote:
art direction

Perrault wrote:
characters

Yes. Let's make our characters angsty tweenage fashion victims. They'll eat that shit up.
I've never played TWEWY, so I can't really judge its fun factor, but I hate its style with every fiber of my being. ФֻФ
Welp, you have your opinions, I have mine.

And SK--it gets loads better after the first week. Trust me.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:46 pm   Reply with quote

Bartz Klauser wrote:
Fat Tuper wrote:
You have really shitty reasons for saying they're dumb and have no common sense, but I agree with you. I totally disagree about all the FF midget stuff, but I agree that a lot of them are stupid. Do you know why? Because they didn't fulfill Sakurai's request to put Geno in Brawl. Why does this make them stupid? 1) It would please a bazillion fans if they let Geno in Brawl. 2) They would get a bazillion dollars. 3) Having one Square Enix character is better than none. 4) Making a bazillion dollars is better than making no dollars. Razz

———————————>awesome
Because a single game from the 90's has driven Square's budget indefinitely. Seriously. Geno isn't that big to them. He's just in one game, where as there are far larger characters such as Loto, Cloud, Squall, Tidus, Cecil Harvey, Golbez, Kefka, Zidane that could easily represent SE far better than that.

Now, lemme ask you this, which is more popular. SMRPG, or the entire FF series.

SMRPG, or Dragon Quest?

SMRPG, or, hell, the Mana franchise.

SMRPG isn't that big of a deal. Did it save them from bankruptcy? No. Was it the most famous product of Enix Corp.? No.
A game's characters can be far more popular or far less popular than the game itself.

And either way, Nintendo asked for Geno. What I was saying is that it was stupid not to accept, because getting a lot of money for a reason you don't care much about is far better than making no money when you clearly COULD have made money.

Basically, what would you rather do? Get $1000 dollars from an old painting of yours you don't like too much, or make no money at all?

———————————>awesome
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:42 pm   Reply with quote

Fat Tuper wrote:
Bartz Klauser wrote:
Fat Tuper wrote:
You have really shitty reasons for saying they're dumb and have no common sense, but I agree with you. I totally disagree about all the FF midget stuff, but I agree that a lot of them are stupid. Do you know why? Because they didn't fulfill Sakurai's request to put Geno in Brawl. Why does this make them stupid? 1) It would please a bazillion fans if they let Geno in Brawl. 2) They would get a bazillion dollars. 3) Having one Square Enix character is better than none. 4) Making a bazillion dollars is better than making no dollars. Razz

———————————>awesome
Because a single game from the 90's has driven Square's budget indefinitely. Seriously. Geno isn't that big to them. He's just in one game, where as there are far larger characters such as Loto, Cloud, Squall, Tidus, Cecil Harvey, Golbez, Kefka, Zidane that could easily represent SE far better than that.

Now, lemme ask you this, which is more popular. SMRPG, or the entire FF series.

SMRPG, or Dragon Quest?

SMRPG, or, hell, the Mana franchise.

SMRPG isn't that big of a deal. Did it save them from bankruptcy? No. Was it the most famous product of Enix Corp.? No.
A game's characters can be far more popular or far less popular than the game itself.

And either way, Nintendo asked for Geno. What I was saying is that it was stupid not to accept, because getting a lot of money for a reason you don't care much about is far better than making no money when you clearly COULD have made money.

Basically, what would you rather do? Get $1000 dollars from an old painting of yours you don't like too much, or make no money at all?

———————————>awesome


Okay, what the hell is giving you the idea that Nintendo asked for Geno? There was never ANY indication that that was the case, aside from the wishes of nostalgic fans with a boner for SMRPG.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:52 pm   Reply with quote

? Block wrote:
Fat Tuper wrote:
Bartz Klauser wrote:
Fat Tuper wrote:
You have really shitty reasons for saying they're dumb and have no common sense, but I agree with you. I totally disagree about all the FF midget stuff, but I agree that a lot of them are stupid. Do you know why? Because they didn't fulfill Sakurai's request to put Geno in Brawl. Why does this make them stupid? 1) It would please a bazillion fans if they let Geno in Brawl. 2) They would get a bazillion dollars. 3) Having one Square Enix character is better than none. 4) Making a bazillion dollars is better than making no dollars. Razz

———————————>awesome
Because a single game from the 90's has driven Square's budget indefinitely. Seriously. Geno isn't that big to them. He's just in one game, where as there are far larger characters such as Loto, Cloud, Squall, Tidus, Cecil Harvey, Golbez, Kefka, Zidane that could easily represent SE far better than that.

Now, lemme ask you this, which is more popular. SMRPG, or the entire FF series.

SMRPG, or Dragon Quest?

SMRPG, or, hell, the Mana franchise.

SMRPG isn't that big of a deal. Did it save them from bankruptcy? No. Was it the most famous product of Enix Corp.? No.
A game's characters can be far more popular or far less popular than the game itself.

And either way, Nintendo asked for Geno. What I was saying is that it was stupid not to accept, because getting a lot of money for a reason you don't care much about is far better than making no money when you clearly COULD have made money.

Basically, what would you rather do? Get $1000 dollars from an old painting of yours you don't like too much, or make no money at all?

———————————>awesome


Okay, what the hell is giving you the idea that Nintendo asked for Geno? There was never ANY indication that that was the case, aside from the wishes of nostalgic fans with a boner for SMRPG.


Quote:
Geno was even mentioned in Sakurai's journal.


Quote:
Gotfrag recently did a article about Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and pointed out a interesting point on the original delay.

Those who have been following the development of Brawl extensively know that Masahiro Sakurai, the man himself regarding Smash Bros development, had a survey in Japan a few years back where he asked gamers what characters they would most like to see in Brawl. Every character in the top 10 of that list is in the game except Geno, who was the #1 character on the list.


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