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Black Yoshi
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 Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:04 pm
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Dr. Eurhok wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | and carfilledwithfish you dont understand correctly reread it |
"Instead of letting people do what they want, let's decide a career for them to work towards from birth. Don't like the job we picked for you? Tough."
And, in your own words, we should "wipe human nature from our systems."
I think I understand pretty well. |
k if you want to think of it like robots then how bout this, what if your running on one operating system thats filled with bugs and fatal flaws, and theres another one that does the same thing but has no bugs. Wouldnt you switch to the new operating sytsem? |
Tell me, have you ever read The Giver? Take your idea here and compare it to the Community in the book. You'll see where she is coming from with her idea.
And people die. It's the way of life. I have a whole stack of essays I could throw at you on this subject. |
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RaveRaze
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:09 pm
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| Black Yoshi wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Dr. Eurhok wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | and carfilledwithfish you dont understand correctly reread it |
"Instead of letting people do what they want, let's decide a career for them to work towards from birth. Don't like the job we picked for you? Tough."
And, in your own words, we should "wipe human nature from our systems."
I think I understand pretty well. |
k if you want to think of it like robots then how bout this, what if your running on one operating system thats filled with bugs and fatal flaws, and theres another one that does the same thing but has no bugs. Wouldnt you switch to the new operating sytsem? |
Tell me, have you ever read The Giver? Take your idea here and compare it to the Community in the book. You'll see where she is coming from with her idea.
And people die. It's the way of life. I have a whole stack of essays I could throw at you on this subject. |
I liked that book, but the problem with that community is that they killed the physically challenged and got rid of color and what not, They took away more than what my plan takes away. I dont take away life unless its to protect the entire society from anarachy. Like I said before, id have people left to leave some sort of free expression left in the people, I may be communistic but im not a facist |
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vdogam3r
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:14 pm
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I'm a hard right wing person.
And I don't like Obama's agenda.
But I'm probably the only one.
And I'd rather have Palin than Obama.
There I said it.
And watch: McCain dies 8 years later, you'll all feel dumbfounded. His mom is alive damnit. |
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Cid
Lord Krump
Joined: 21 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:38 pm
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Dr. Eurhok wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | and carfilledwithfish you dont understand correctly reread it |
"Instead of letting people do what they want, let's decide a career for them to work towards from birth. Don't like the job we picked for you? Tough."
And, in your own words, we should "wipe human nature from our systems."
I think I understand pretty well. |
k if you want to think of it like robots then how bout this, what if your running on one operating system thats filled with bugs and fatal flaws, and theres another one that does the same thing but has no bugs. Wouldnt you switch to the new operating sytsem? |
Why switch to a "perfect" way of life if it isn't any fun? Wouldn't a boring lifestyle be a flaw in a lifestyle itself, thus making truly perfect lifestyles impossible? |
what if that flaw results in killing people, and sometimes machines are better than natural life |
So, you're saying that a life of perfect safety- but without any fun at all- is better than a life with risks, but with fun, as well?
I doubt you could live by your words.
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RaveRaze
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:44 pm
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| Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Dr. Eurhok wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | and carfilledwithfish you dont understand correctly reread it |
"Instead of letting people do what they want, let's decide a career for them to work towards from birth. Don't like the job we picked for you? Tough."
And, in your own words, we should "wipe human nature from our systems."
I think I understand pretty well. |
k if you want to think of it like robots then how bout this, what if your running on one operating system thats filled with bugs and fatal flaws, and theres another one that does the same thing but has no bugs. Wouldnt you switch to the new operating sytsem? |
Why switch to a "perfect" way of life if it isn't any fun? Wouldn't a boring lifestyle be a flaw in a lifestyle itself, thus making truly perfect lifestyles impossible? |
what if that flaw results in killing people, and sometimes machines are better than natural life |
So, you're saying that a life of perfect safety- but without any fun at all- is better than a life with risks, but with fun, as well?
I doubt you could live up to those words. |
If your a spineless pansy like me it is, Im not one to just go bungee jumping im one to stay home |
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Cid
Lord Krump
Joined: 21 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:46 pm
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Dr. Eurhok wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | and carfilledwithfish you dont understand correctly reread it |
"Instead of letting people do what they want, let's decide a career for them to work towards from birth. Don't like the job we picked for you? Tough."
And, in your own words, we should "wipe human nature from our systems."
I think I understand pretty well. |
k if you want to think of it like robots then how bout this, what if your running on one operating system thats filled with bugs and fatal flaws, and theres another one that does the same thing but has no bugs. Wouldnt you switch to the new operating sytsem? |
Why switch to a "perfect" way of life if it isn't any fun? Wouldn't a
boring lifestyle be a flaw in a lifestyle itself, thus making truly perfect lifestyles impossible? |
what if that flaw results in killing people, and sometimes machines are better than natural life |
So, you're saying that a life of perfect safety- but without any fun at all- is better than a life with risks, but with fun, as well?
I doubt you could live up to those words. |
If your a spineless pansy like me it is, Im not one to just go bungee jumping im one to stay home |
That only means your philosophy is good for you; it doesn't mean that it is good for the rest of society, that does include people who'd live more dangerous yet fulfilling lives. |
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RaveRaze
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 8:51 pm
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| Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Dr. Eurhok wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | and carfilledwithfish you dont understand correctly reread it |
"Instead of letting people do what they want, let's decide a career for them to work towards from birth. Don't like the job we picked for you? Tough."
And, in your own words, we should "wipe human nature from our systems."
I think I understand pretty well. |
k if you want to think of it like robots then how bout this, what if your running on one operating system thats filled with bugs and fatal flaws, and theres another one that does the same thing but has no bugs. Wouldnt you switch to the new operating sytsem? |
Why switch to a "perfect" way of life if it isn't any fun? Wouldn't a
boring lifestyle be a flaw in a lifestyle itself, thus making truly perfect lifestyles impossible? |
what if that flaw results in killing people, and sometimes machines are better than natural life |
So, you're saying that a life of perfect safety- but without any fun at all- is better than a life with risks, but with fun, as well?
I doubt you could live up to those words. |
If your a spineless pansy like me it is, Im not one to just go bungee jumping im one to stay home |
That only means your philosophy is good for you; it doesn't mean that it is good for the rest of society, that does include people who'd live more dangerous yet fulfilling lives. |
but when those people get themselves killed, theyre saddening other people, should those people be sad cause one person had a death wish |
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Cid
Lord Krump
Joined: 21 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:01 pm
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Dr. Eurhok wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | and carfilledwithfish you dont understand correctly reread it |
"Instead of letting people do what they want, let's decide a career for them to work towards from birth. Don't like the job we picked for you? Tough."
And, in your own words, we should "wipe human nature from our systems."
I think I understand pretty well. |
k if you want to think of it like robots then how bout this, what if your running on one operating system thats filled with bugs and fatal flaws, and theres another one that does the same thing but has no bugs. Wouldnt you switch to the new operating sytsem? |
Why switch to a "perfect" way of life if it isn't any fun? Wouldn't a
boring lifestyle be a flaw in a lifestyle itself, thus making truly perfect lifestyles impossible? |
what if that flaw results in killing people, and sometimes machines are better than natural life |
So, you're saying that a life of perfect safety- but without any fun at all- is better than a life with risks, but with fun, as well?
I doubt you could live up to those words. |
If your a spineless pansy like me it is, Im not one to just go bungee jumping im one to stay home |
That only means your philosophy is good for you; it doesn't mean that it is good for the rest of society, that does include people who'd live more dangerous yet fulfilling lives. |
but when those people get themselves killed, theyre saddening other people, should those people be sad cause one person had a death wish |
If you limit your life due to what others think, you aren't "living" your life. Great thinkers and leaders have taken risks and denied what their fathers have taught them throughout the years; if they listened to those who told them that "it couldn't be done," our society's progression would have halted. For instance, what if our favorite videogame companies never took any risks? Nintendo or Square-Enix or Bioware or whoever might not be here today if they didn't take risks.
If it is selfish to live one's life while disregarding tradition and what others think, so be it. It is better to live a life of variety and joy than to live in constant fear. |
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RaveRaze
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:42 pm
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If you limit your life due to what others think, you aren't "living" your life. Great thinkers and leaders have taken risks and denied what their fathers have taught them throughout the years; if they listened to those who told them that "it couldn't be done," our society's progression would have halted. For instance, what if our favorite videogame companies never took any risks? Nintendo or Square-Enix or Bioware or whoever might not be here today if they didn't take risks.
If it is selfish to live one's life while disregarding tradition and what others think, so be it. It is better to live a life of variety and joy than to live in constant fear. |
QUOTE PYRAMID DESTROYER >:O and when you relate thing. Great Leaders have also run their entire nation into the ground by taking risks, killing tens of thousands of people. And for our nation to halt progress our Philosophers and Scientists would have to stop taking risks not our politicians and leaders.
Also I thought you said that following everyone else (Tradition) was bad and that we should roll our own ways. Also a life of constant fear could be epic |
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Bartz Klauser
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:19 pm
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: |
If you limit your life due to what others think, you aren't "living" your life. Great thinkers and leaders have taken risks and denied what their fathers have taught them throughout the years; if they listened to those who told them that "it couldn't be done," our society's progression would have halted. For instance, what if our favorite videogame companies never took any risks? Nintendo or Square-Enix or Bioware or whoever might not be here today if they didn't take risks.
If it is selfish to live one's life while disregarding tradition and what others think, so be it. It is better to live a life of variety and joy than to live in constant fear. |
QUOTE PYRAMID DESTROYER >:O and when you relate thing. Great Leaders have also run their entire nation into the ground by taking risks, killing tens of thousands of people. And for our nation to halt progress our Philosophers and Scientists would have to stop taking risks not our politicians and leaders.
Also I thought you said that following everyone else (Tradition) was bad and that we should roll our own ways. Also a life of constant fear could be epic |
However, the only way we can discover new facts or interests is by taking a leap of faith.
Anyways, should we re-rail the topic? |
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RaveRaze
Mana7
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:22 pm
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| Bartz Klauser wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: |
If you limit your life due to what others think, you aren't "living" your life. Great thinkers and leaders have taken risks and denied what their fathers have taught them throughout the years; if they listened to those who told them that "it couldn't be done," our society's progression would have halted. For instance, what if our favorite videogame companies never took any risks? Nintendo or Square-Enix or Bioware or whoever might not be here today if they didn't take risks.
If it is selfish to live one's life while disregarding tradition and what others think, so be it. It is better to live a life of variety and joy than to live in constant fear. |
QUOTE PYRAMID DESTROYER >:O and when you relate thing. Great Leaders have also run their entire nation into the ground by taking risks, killing tens of thousands of people. And for our nation to halt progress our Philosophers and Scientists would have to stop taking risks not our politicians and leaders.
Also I thought you said that following everyone else (Tradition) was bad and that we should roll our own ways. Also a life of constant fear could be epic |
However, the only way we can discover new facts or interests is by taking a leap of faith.
Anyways, should we re-rail the topic? |
Those kinds of leaps of faith doesnt involve the deaths of millions of people inb4largehadroncollider and no this new discussion is much more interesting WE NEVER RERAIL |
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Cid
Lord Krump
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| Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:04 pm
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: |
If you limit your life due to what others think, you aren't "living" your life. Great thinkers and leaders have taken risks and denied what their fathers have taught them throughout the years; if they listened to those who told them that "it couldn't be done," our society's progression would have halted. For instance, what if our favorite videogame companies never took any risks? Nintendo or Square-Enix or Bioware or whoever might not be here today if they didn't take risks.
If it is selfish to live one's life while disregarding tradition and what others think, so be it. It is better to live a life of variety and joy than to live in constant fear. |
QUOTE PYRAMID DESTROYER >:O and when you relate thing. Great Leaders have also run their entire nation into the ground by taking risks, killing tens of thousands of people. |
We're talking about people having the freedom to live the lives the way they wish as long as they don't harm others.
Plus, were the Bolsheviks not taking risks when they were trying to change Russia into a communist state? The fact of the matter is, [i]life cannot exist without risks.
| Quote: | | And for our nation to halt progress our Philosophers and Scientists would have to stop taking risks not our politicians and leaders. |
No, they need to, as well. Only politicians and leaders can make such risky decisions as changing laws and granting more individual liberties to people.
| Quote: | | Also I thought you said that following everyone else (Tradition) was bad and that we should roll our own ways. [/i] |
Of course it's bad; capitalism provides more liberties than communism does, and communism would end up requiring everyone to follow society's tradition. |
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Token Nazi?
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:19 am
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I, personally think that communism can't work because people aren't alike, and if we could and would brainwash them into Utopia (I don't mean that Communism does that), that wouldn't be a solution.
Anyway g2g presentation. |
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Bartz Klauser
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| Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:35 am
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| Cid wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Cid wrote: |
If you limit your life due to what others think, you aren't "living" your life. Great thinkers and leaders have taken risks and denied what their fathers have taught them throughout the years; if they listened to those who told them that "it couldn't be done," our society's progression would have halted. For instance, what if our favorite videogame companies never took any risks? Nintendo or Square-Enix or Bioware or whoever might not be here today if they didn't take risks.
If it is selfish to live one's life while disregarding tradition and what others think, so be it. It is better to live a life of variety and joy than to live in constant fear. |
QUOTE PYRAMID DESTROYER >:O and when you relate thing. Great Leaders have also run their entire nation into the ground by taking risks, killing tens of thousands of people. |
We're talking about people having the freedom to live the lives the way they wish as long as they don't harm others.
Plus, were the Bolsheviks not taking risks when they were trying to change Russia into a communist state? The fact of the matter is, [i]life cannot exist without risks.
| Quote: | | And for our nation to halt progress our Philosophers and Scientists would have to stop taking risks not our politicians and leaders. |
No, they need to, as well. Only politicians and leaders can make such risky decisions as changing laws and granting more individual liberties to people.
| Quote: | | Also I thought you said that following everyone else (Tradition) was bad and that we should roll our own ways. [/i] |
Of course it's bad; capitalism provides more liberties than communism does, and communism would end up requiring everyone to follow society's tradition. |
And, might I add, following the morι of society isn't usually such a good idea. |
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Lifeless Intellectual
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 11:11 pm
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| Fat Tuper wrote: | | Manpersonguything wrote: | | Obama is NOT inexperienced. He went to Harverd and became class president. Palin didn't graduate collage. You tell me who is more experienced. Lincon was just as experienced, and was called inexperienced. And he is considered just about the best president of the U.S.A |
Don't forget that the only thing Palin gas ever run is a town in Alaska that has less thin 6,000 people.
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The most fun I have ever had, other than playing SPM, was finding these...
Oh, and correct me if I'm wrong, but don't Governors run the entire state?
~HAVE AT YOU, Mr. L |
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