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PEPSIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! Cherry Vampire
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 22614
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:00 pm
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Why do people put emphasis on a person's sex? It's not even an important part of who they are! I can't possibly fathom why anyone would care. All that it determines is if you have a penis, or a vagina, and that's about all that matters. In fact; in the general idea of it, the only thing that matters in sex is the act of reproduction. So why does it matter?
It doesn't determine sexual orientation, it doesn't determine attitudes or hobbies, it doesn't determine favorite colors... it doesn't determine a damn thing! All it does is give a person a set list of stereotypes they have to follow or else you're different from the others, you're not acting your age, not acting your sex, you're not being the person you should be.
It disgusts me, that people think that sex is something that needs to be known for a person to be themself. Everyone is their own person, and that right should be unalienable, but sex just seems to be another excuse for people to create a stereotype; a generalized version of that person. Just like how being a certain age means you must act that way, or you're weird.
(And for the record, when someone is uncomfortable with thier own sex, that's something completely different, they're uncomfortable with how society sees them, and they want thier physical self to reflect how they are mentally. It's a condition that can occur as young as a few years old, when a person's mind is so juvinile they don't even know how to spell 'blue', but they still know thier body is wrong. I wanted to get that out of the way, because I knew someone was going to bring it up.)
So why do you guys make a big deal out of a person's sex? |
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Strawberry-san Celeste Dimentia
Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 11104
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:07 pm
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There are additional biological differences, but they are too incredibly minor to matter, especially on the matter of behavior, personality, etc. - that is, how we identify ourselves. But, hey, why do we put emphasis on our genders? Such is question Cid might ask, at least.
Anyway... the stereotypes you mention, gender roles, are typically placed into a child through gender socialization. And yes, this is because of sex. |
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Larry Koopa Sam
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 16957
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:45 pm
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CD speaks the truth. There are some minor differences between males and females, but all and all they aren't any different from each other. We are humans. Males are equal to females. There is nothing wrong with our sexuality. Cherry, you shouldn't be offend if someone asks for someone's sexuality. It doesn't hurt to know someone's sexuality. Infact, it gives a person more understanding of the other. Just like weight, height, and age does.
And it disgust me as well for someone to be judged for their sexuality. It's immature. Sexist. Discrimination. |
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Flavio Twitch Boobs Super Hario
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 14778
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:08 pm
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because we can't talk about gender anymore without at least two transsexuals acting all high and mighty like they're the smartest people in the world because HOLY SHIT
THEY'RE A WOMAN IN A MANS BODY HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
if I could just be honest for a second, I don't even believe you're a real transexual
I think you're just an idiot trying to fit in by using an identity you don't understand
honestly, some of you guys need to grow up and stop flipping out when we talk about gender
in about five years I guarentee half of the transsexuals on this site currently will look back on this and be like "wow what the *crag* was i thinking", and it will probably be the 13-15 year old ones that are extreme perverts
god I needed to get that off my chest
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Strawberry-san Celeste Dimentia
Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 11104
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:13 pm
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Am I being referred to somehow in that rant? People can talk about gender. Fine by me. I'm not the smartest person in the world, but if I feel offended, maybe, I'd give my point of view and feelings on the matter, giving some reason why. I think it's also a female in a male body, no FtM's here as far as I know. xD
Anyway, I really hope you're not accusing me of being fake, because my entire life credo is being true to myself, and I know who I am. Oh, and by claiming yourself a transsexual here, you are NOT trying to fit in. Just look at how some react to it in the first place. It's not something I'd choose, personally.
I'm 18, I can make my choices, and I feel I am being as responsible as I can when handling this major part of my life. I'm sorry if I really bothered you that much. |
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Flavio Twitch Boobs Super Hario
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 14778
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:16 pm
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Celeste Dimentia wrote: | Am I being referred to somehow in that rant? People can talk about gender. Fine by me. I'm not the smartest person in the world, but if I feel offended, maybe, I'd give my point of view and feelings on the matter, giving some reason why. I think it's also a female in a male body, no FtM's here as far as I know. xD
Anyway, I really hope you're not accusing me of being fake, because my entire life credo is being true to myself, and I know who I am. Oh, and by claiming yourself a transsexual here, you are NOT trying to fit in. Just look at how some react to it in the first place. It's not something I'd choose, personally.
I'm 18, I can make my choices, and I feel I am being as responsible as I can when handling this major part of my life. I'm sorry if I really bothered you that much. |
not referring to you in that rant, you're probably the most if only legit one |
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Crappiest Animator ever. Chaos-Stev-0
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 Posts: 5728
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:19 pm
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THe only thing sex can would EEVER matter is if you are refering to someone as a he or a she. Or in voice acting. Not much else besides those two.
The reason why people are so intrested in sex is, because I am sure MANY of us know, the internet is filled with a whole bunch of sad teenagers who are looking for love in the wrong places. They would treat a girl as if she was a goddess, and he would treat other dudes like utter shit. Deny it or not, it is true.
It kinda urks me seeing how it is hard to make friends with some of the dudes on the internet because they are ANNOYED by the presence of another dude.
Still don't believe me? Make two accounts on a website that allows you to easily make friends. Make one saying that you are a he, and one that you are saying that you are a she. Go to a bunch of other peoples profiles with both of them, and ask them to be your friend. Trust me, I tried it to test this theory, and I was right.
And I really wish I wasn't... |
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Larry Koopa Sam
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 16957
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:53 pm
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HUGGEROFINVISIBLEGORONS wrote: | because we can't talk about gender anymore without at least two transsexuals acting all high and mighty like they're the smartest people in the world because HOLY SHIT
THEY'RE A MAN IN A WOMANS BODY HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT HOLY SHIT
if I could just be honest for a second, I don't even believe you're a real transexual
I think you're just an idiot trying to fit in by using an identity you don't understand
honestly, some of you guys need to grow up and stop flipping out when we talk about gender
in about five years I guarentee half of the transsexuals on this site currently will look back on this and be like "wow what the *crag* was i thinking", and it will probably be the 13-15 year old ones that are extreme perverts
god I needed to get that off my chest |
It is true. People do stuff they don't understand, and later look at it with shame in the future. It has happened to all of us. But still, Right now they think you are stupid and retarded for making that post, they always do, but you got a point there.
@Steve-0: Yeah, geeks treat girls like goddesses because they never see girls in a daily basis. They can't stand it. |
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RaveRaze Mana7 Dead
Joined: 30 Jun 2008 Posts: 6987
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:00 pm
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Its cause modern society is about having sex with people, that is why sex matters. |
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Master of Puppets... The Chaos Heart
Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 4568
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:18 pm
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This kind of stuff really pisses me off.
Sex, in NO ay, determines ANYTHING about you.
...for the most part.
THE ONLY way in which male and female are different is when it comes to reproduction.
That's it.
Every guy and girl outside of that have equal opportunities to do anything. Anyone can go anywhere. Every human has that potential from the moment they are born, unless of course they are afflicted by a disease or something.
It's doesn't matter about your sex.
Guys are better than girls at physical things?
I know plenty of girls that can kick a guy's ass any day. And vice versa.
Girls are smarter than guys?
Horrid lies!
Look around you. Can you honestly tell me that ALL the guys around you are dumbshits?
No.
You can't even say on average.
And there are plenty of females who AREN'T smart, just like there are plenty of males. AND VICE VERSA!
Anyone has the potential to do ANYTHING and THAT'S THAT!
Gender roles are the STUPIDEST way of trying to control a population next to RACISM!
That's right.
Gender roles, Sexism, and Racism go hand in hand people.
Don't believe me?
Read a *crag* dictionary. Then you'll learn.
And it's not so much the aspects that hurt people. There's also the one's that are supposed to be just the way things are done.
"Ladies first"
Who the *crag* do you think you are? Why should I let you go before me, just because you were born a different sex?!
You want to plea "politeness?"
Shut the *crag* up! Politeness my ass! If it were "Men first", you would be crying "SEXISM"!
Well how the HELL is this any different!
And the way Men are treated like the are ENDOWED the right to RULE the household and business world.
Last time I checked, Marriage was meant to be a *crag* PARTNERSHIP!
And your telling me that you are going to pay a male more, even is he preforms worse than a fellow female co-worker?
That's just stupid.
It's illogical.
It holds back your company.
It holds back the entire human race.
That's all I have to say on the matter.
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There's only one Chin Fish Vampire
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 21294
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:28 pm
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The Chaos Heart sure loves his Enter key. |
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Master of Puppets... The Chaos Heart
Joined: 17 Jul 2007 Posts: 4568
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:44 pm
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Sorry, I'm used to jumping from one thing to another with enter. I think it makes the points more visible. |
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OH GOD Manpersonguything Werewolf
Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 7249
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:06 pm
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There was this one shit-face in 3rd grade who looked down upon boys because girls are better at everything. And she would bush people out of the way in lines if you were a guy.
One time, I was waiting in line for a slide, and she went. "Ladies first!"
Then I tripped her and went down.
it was awesome
Anyway, we are all humans. No matter what gender, age, race, beliefs, cup cakes, religion, hobbies, I.Q, ect. So stop saying you are above one another because you are in some way different. Besides, the only people who discriminate are those *crag* stupid hispanics.
lol wut?
In case you don't understand, the last part was a joke. |
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lolz Shrowser
Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 8814
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:10 pm
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If it doesn't matter, stop making a big deal out of it.
He said specifically, he wasn't trying to discriminate anyone, and you're the one that brought up the sex-gender thing. I don't see how you could've possibly been offended by that. |
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bobz bobzearth42
Joined: 26 Mar 2008 Posts: 11543
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Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:17 pm
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One question:
Why the *crag* are we discussing gender over the internet?
The one place in the world where we don't even see each other?
Honestly, if you're a guy on the internet, you're a guy on the internet. Same for girls, transsexuals, and seven-footed men/women with half an elephant butt, three heads, a cat ear, and fifteen toes on both hands and all seven feet. It doesn't matter, so long as you can type and you know enough to have a conversation with someone else.
Gender plays no role on the internet. IRL it might, but here, no. 3:|════׀ |
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