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Blue Eyes wins.
Captain Blue
Joined: 21 May 2007
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 Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:19 pm
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I'd also like to make one more point to put the final nail in the coffin, destroying your deal, Francis. Off-topic and RPOT still increase your post count without giving you coins. It wouldn't be fair for someone to be unable to gain coins just because they like posting in the less serious forums, now would it? |
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Medikoopa
Vampire
Joined: 08 Sep 2007
Posts: 29252
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:32 pm
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| Seto Kaiba wrote: | | I'd also like to make one more point to put the final nail in the coffin, destroying your deal, Francis. Off-topic and RPOT still increase your post count without giving you coins. It wouldn't be fair for someone to be unable to gain coins just because they like posting in the less serious forums, now would it? |
Just pointing out that was to avoid spam-posts. ... I think... |
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Elite Nerr
Francis
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
Posts: 6974
HP: 50 MP: 3 Lives: 0
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:25 pm
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| Seto Kaiba wrote: | | Listen, chameleon. What part of "Your idea won't work." don't you understand? There's no way to beat Ultimario Mart's prices. You're only going to make the rich richer because they're the only ones who can gain profit from stores because only they can stock powerful items that people will actually buy. You're thinking this problem is far more manageable than it really is, and that will be your plan's downfall. |
Listen, Captain *crag*
My idea was to
a) stop rewarding every post made by well-established members.
b) add more things to spend coins on at all levels of wealth
What part of that won't work? Forcing everyone to earn coins only by using shops was not the idea. It was just an example of things rich people can currently spend money on.
| Dark Prognosticus wrote: | | So everyeone who has 1000+ posts by now can't get coins? Seems kinda stupid for that. I see what you mean, but if you wanted to do that you need to give us ANOTHER way to make money, so e all don't just lose it. |
That is why I suggested "it should shift to rewarding post-quality", instead of every post that you make. I agree that there should be more ways to earn coins that don't involve posting at all. |
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Nimexa, The Gentle Breeze
Dark Prognosticus
Burning Werewolf
Joined: 04 May 2007
Posts: 16966
HP: 97 MP: 10 Lives: 1
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 6:20 pm
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| Francis wrote: | | Seto Kaiba wrote: | | Listen, chameleon. What part of "Your idea won't work." don't you understand? There's no way to beat Ultimario Mart's prices. You're only going to make the rich richer because they're the only ones who can gain profit from stores because only they can stock powerful items that people will actually buy. You're thinking this problem is far more manageable than it really is, and that will be your plan's downfall. |
Listen, Captain *crag*
My idea was to
a) stop rewarding every post made by well-established members.
b) add more things to spend coins on at all levels of wealth
What part of that won't work? Forcing everyone to earn coins only by using shops was not the idea. It was just an example of things rich people can currently spend money on.
| Dark Prognosticus wrote: | | So everyeone who has 1000+ posts by now can't get coins? Seems kinda stupid for that. I see what you mean, but if you wanted to do that you need to give us ANOTHER way to make money, so e all don't just lose it. |
That is why I suggested "it should shift to rewarding post-quality", instead of every post that you make. I agree that there should be more ways to earn coins that don't involve posting at all. |
Well, that's a good idea but how can we say WHAT is rewarding post-quality? We can't leave that up for other users to decide, that would be too risky. And we can't let it be "Any message longer than X". There needs to be a thing taht can actually tell, and reward it. |
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Lifeless Intellectual
Crappy Shifty Luigi
Dead
Joined: 12 May 2007
Posts: 2619
HP: 0 MP: 4 Lives: 0
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:09 pm
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| Zelnor wrote: | Very good. Now lean back and enjoy the show, I'm only getting started !
I am full of tea and chocolate, have lunch break and a free lesson and my MP-Player is playing the Genie's song on loop. And Gandrayda's Theme *cracks Knuckles*
I left off at the idea of A) Setting the total amount in the system to a fixed value, either a total or a dynamic coins-per-member basis, B) Following that with sucking any money over the limit, and potentially money from people with lots of it, out of the system by introducing coinsinks in the form of "premium" content, i.e. a forum where you pay-per-post (fancy golden color scheme, Tippi replaced by that golden Bob-Omb / Flavio and fancy cursive script instead of ol' Arial etc. included).
Further ideas for coinsinks:
- Custom usertitle / second usertitle (cannot be changed, only be removed and then re-bought)
- Sparkly / Italicized / Underlined username (Generally, we should automatically bold and / or italicize the names of the mods, so we can identify them even with a new name or something. I don't want to create an even greater class hierachy, but some distinct feature might improve respect and/or acknowledgement of the mods)
- Custom font(s). Upload a .tiff or other font file and make your posts distinct from the masses !
High-octane Ideas - HANDLE WITH CARE:
- Bail (Pay to reduce your jail sentence, but a) only to a certain minimum so there's still a punishment,and b) the more coins you have, the more you'll have to pay to reduce the sentence )
- MeowMeeps: Sorta like Tamagotchis; you buy an egg and breed and raise them, feed them, and hope to get the ultra rare golden MeowMeep. They're fluffy and cuddle and animated. </Cloudcuckooland>
... I kinda lost my track of thought here. Anyway, the greatest challenge is to keep the cash flowing, and I have just the plan.
What we need is the Glitz Pit. An organized tournament with ranks. It would give purpose to coins, give new meaning to the HP / MP and battle system, and be a better sort of leaderboard then mere coins.
Each weekend, you can challenge someone one rank above you (initial ranks determined randomly) and be challenged by those below you. Depending on how far up you are, you have a greater or lower percentage / amount of your coins you're allowed to use, and then the battle is logged and on like King Kong. Battle Logs can be seen in the Hall of records; meybe we could touch them up a little, e.g. displaying *Avatar*: Message / Item
Effect
*Other person's Avatar*: Counter, Taunt, Item
etc.
Also, as a last shot, newbies and the poor should get a few percent off at the stores, and maybe we could re-introduce bank interest with a percentage inversely proportional to what you have, but at least 5 % every week.
More ideas later; stick a fork in me, I'm done for the moment. |
Due to the word listed in the quote, this plan is automatically unsupported. |
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Overlord of Waffles!
Waffle Overlord
Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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HP: 100 MP: 10 Lives: 0
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:16 pm
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| The Green Thunder (Mr. L) wrote: | | Due to the word listed in the quote, this plan is automatically unsupported. |
Seconded. |
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oar
Super Maiq the Liar
Joined: 23 May 2007
Posts: 17919
HP: 100 MP: 10 Lives: 0
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:21 pm
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| Waffle Overlord wrote: | | The Green Thunder (Mr. L) wrote: | | Due to the word listed in the quote, this plan is automatically unsupported. |
Seconded. |
So you guys would reject the cure for cancer if it was pink and sparkly? |
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~A color is just a color~
Frozenwinters
Joined: 30 Aug 2007
Posts: 25292
HP: 1 MP: 0 Lives: 4
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| Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 10:26 pm
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| Maiq the Liar wrote: | | Waffle Overlord wrote: | | The Green Thunder (Mr. L) wrote: | | Due to the word listed in the quote, this plan is automatically unsupported. |
Seconded. |
So you guys would reject the cure for cancer if it was pink and sparkly? |
Yes. It's completely logical. |
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Token Nazi?
Zelnor
Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:21 am
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I lol'd.
Anyway, Inverse proportion. As I suggested, limit the total number of coins in the system, then carefully install coinsinks to suck off the overdue money (you just saw how people react when you suggest such steps, or if you plan on making them too quickly), and put inverse proportions in place.
Then, 1 coins per post would be the absolute minimum you could earn per post; or maybe we should really install a "999 coins per member maximum". That's also be a nice Mario reference. Those who are rich keep their stuff, but if they spend they won't get any back until they're under 999 coins.
*forcefully takes topic back onto rails*
Also, "Seto" - remember that talk we had about times where your apparent "being in-character" was bad ? That was one of them times. You made Francis curse. Uncool.
If you weren't being in-character on purpose, it's even worse.
EDIT: The new punishment, right below jailing, is a huge fine, and sparkly text. The ensuing public humiliation will be worse then any jail sentence evar.
EDIT2: Third cookie ! Yay ! I can haz public support. |
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vdogam3r
kEvin
Joined: 30 Nov 2007
Posts: 3420
HP: 40 MP: 7 Lives: 0
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:30 am
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| Zelnor wrote: | I lol'd.
Anyway, Inverse proportion. As I suggested, limit the total number of coins in the system, then carefully install coinsinks to suck off the overdue money (you just saw how people react when you suggest such steps, or if you plan on making them too quickly), and put inverse proportions in place.
Then, 1 coins per post would be the absolute minimum you could earn per post; or maybe we should really install a "999 coins per member maximum". That's also be a nice Mario reference. Those who are rich keep their stuff, but if they spend they won't get any back until they're under 999 coins.
*forcefully takes topic back onto rails*
Also, "Seto" - remember that talk we had about times where your apparent "being in-character" was bad ? That was one of them times. You made Francis curse. Uncool.
If you weren't being in-character on purpose, it's even worse.
EDIT: The new punishment, right below jailing, is a huge fine, and sparkly text. The ensuing public humiliation will be worse then any jail sentence evar.
EDIT2: Third cookie ! Yay ! I can haz public support. |
*cough*
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Blue Eyes wins.
Captain Blue
Joined: 21 May 2007
Posts: 15314
HP: 95 MP: 10 Lives: 2
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 7:39 am
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| Zelnor wrote: | I lol'd.
Anyway, Inverse proportion. As I suggested, limit the total number of coins in the system, then carefully install coinsinks to suck off the overdue money (you just saw how people react when you suggest such steps, or if you plan on making them too quickly), and put inverse proportions in place.
Then, 1 coins per post would be the absolute minimum you could earn per post; or maybe we should really install a "999 coins per member maximum". That's also be a nice Mario reference. Those who are rich keep their stuff, but if they spend they won't get any back until they're under 999 coins.
*forcefully takes topic back onto rails*
Also, "Seto" - remember that talk we had about times where your apparent "being in-character" was bad ? That was one of them times. You made Francis curse. Uncool.
If you weren't being in-character on purpose, it's even worse.
EDIT: The new punishment, right below jailing, is a huge fine, and sparkly text. The ensuing public humiliation will be worse then any jail sentence evar.
EDIT2: Third cookie ! Yay ! I can haz public support. |
Notice the text color. I'm not being Kaiba. I gave up on that because everyone said to keep the RPing in the RP areas. And it isn't my fault Francis couldn't control his temper. I just tend to be blunt. How does nobody realize this after it's been a whole year? |
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Cid
Lord Krump
Joined: 21 Apr 2007
Posts: 7880
HP: 60 MP: 2 Lives: 0
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:07 am
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| Seto Kaiba wrote: | | Zelnor wrote: | I lol'd.
Anyway, Inverse proportion. As I suggested, limit the total number of coins in the system, then carefully install coinsinks to suck off the overdue money (you just saw how people react when you suggest such steps, or if you plan on making them too quickly), and put inverse proportions in place.
Then, 1 coins per post would be the absolute minimum you could earn per post; or maybe we should really install a "999 coins per member maximum". That's also be a nice Mario reference. Those who are rich keep their stuff, but if they spend they won't get any back until they're under 999 coins.
*forcefully takes topic back onto rails*
Also, "Seto" - remember that talk we had about times where your apparent "being in-character" was bad ? That was one of them times. You made Francis curse. Uncool.
If you weren't being in-character on purpose, it's even worse.
EDIT: The new punishment, right below jailing, is a huge fine, and sparkly text. The ensuing public humiliation will be worse then any jail sentence evar.
EDIT2: Third cookie ! Yay ! I can haz public support. |
And it isn't my fault Francis couldn't control his temper. I just tend to be blunt. How does nobody realize this after it's been a whole year? |
That really isn't an excuse. After all, Francis was just being blunt, as well. |
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Elite Nerr
Francis
Joined: 16 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:10 am
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There is a court topic for the issue, lets not derail this thread anymore than it already is. |
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Lifeless Intellectual
Crappy Shifty Luigi
Dead
Joined: 12 May 2007
Posts: 2619
HP: 0 MP: 4 Lives: 0
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:03 pm
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| Maiq the Liar wrote: | | Waffle Overlord wrote: | | The Green Thunder (Mr. L) wrote: | | Due to the word listed in the quote, this plan is automatically unsupported. |
Seconded. |
So you guys would reject the cure for cancer if it was pink and sparkly? |
I would support it if it wasn't sparkly. |
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Flavio Twitch Boobs
Super Hario
Joined: 18 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:53 pm
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| The Green Thunder (Mr. L) wrote: | | Maiq the Liar wrote: | | Waffle Overlord wrote: | | The Green Thunder (Mr. L) wrote: | | Due to the word listed in the quote, this plan is automatically unsupported. |
Seconded. |
So you guys would reject the cure for cancer if it was pink and sparkly? |
I would support it if it wasn't sparkly. |
you guys do realize you don't have to use the sparkly text |
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