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Bartz Klauser
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| Hanyuu wrote: | | Laharl wrote: | | Master Shake wrote: | Nope, then all the gay kids are gonna get mad because they cant have a real "marriage" just because of the name. Some would be happy but shit.. gay people want everything the same..
I disagree with gay marriages 100 percent. Its just wrong. Gay marriages are like another saying for like a ceremony for being best buds. Pointless shit |
Think about this. Would you like it if you couldn't marry someone you loved? Doesn't matter if that person is male or female. And give more specifications to your words. I absolutely hate it when someone says "It's just wrong." Why? Well, there's no reasoning to it.
And honestly, I kinda doubt you've met any homosexual people that don't follow the media-perpetrated stereotype(which is quite a lot, actually), from those words. Even then, when you meet one, you won't realize it until they flat out tell you. They're like vegetarians, only to a different extent. Vegetarians prefer non-dairy products, homosexuals prefer those of their same sex.
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I've known many a homosexual, and none where like the way the media portrays them. The media twists everything for it's sick little game. It's hard to find any HONEST media production these days.
I don't disapprove of homosexuality, I just find it pointless. Well...I guess in my book that IS disapproving it, but not "just cause". I'm an engine of logic, not feeling. That's my reasoning. But meh, whatever. Just don't bug me, and I could care less what the hell you do with you life.
Flame me for this and I will rip out your throat. I find it funny how some people will sit there and yell at people for being intolerant of stiff like homosexuality, and yet, they're just being intolerant to other peoples opinions. Thus, they are hypocrites. Why can't everyone just mind there own business, and get on with there lives? *sigh* |
If you were referring to my statement, I was simply stating how he provided little to no insight on his standpoint. Really, if you state an argument with little or no logic or reasoning behind it, then even if it is the most reasonable of statements, they're pretty much a bad statement. |
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Die4Less
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:21 pm
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| Captain Gordon wrote: | | I may be a Christian, but I have no quarrel with gays, and nothing against gay marriage. I honestly hate it when people say that God doesn't love gays. It may be in Leviticus, but whoever wrote that was on drugs. Anyways, the Bible also says that God (if there is a God) loves all his children, and there are no exceptions, not even gays. |
Ahem, the guy on drugs who wrote Leviticus was God. |
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TooManyToasters
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 1:30 pm
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| Die4Less wrote: | | Captain Gordon wrote: | | I may be a Christian, but I have no quarrel with gays, and nothing against gay marriage. I honestly hate it when people say that God doesn't love gays. It may be in Leviticus, but whoever wrote that was on drugs. Anyways, the Bible also says that God (if there is a God) loves all his children, and there are no exceptions, not even gays. |
Ahem, the guy on drugs who wrote Leviticus was God. |
God didn't write the Bible, humans did. Just FYI.
I support gay marriage, but regardless of religious reasoning or personal opinion, it shouldn't be outlawed. Creating laws based on religious rights/wrongs is an absolutely terrible idea. Religion is not absolute law like it was in the dark ages; we know better than that now. Religion is nothing but an opinion; you believe in it or you don't, and it can't be proven. With all the different conflicting religions in the world, you can't pin one as the "right one" and make everybody follow its laws. ФֻФ |
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Cherry
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:10 pm
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| Die4Less wrote: | | Captain Gordon wrote: | | I may be a Christian, but I have no quarrel with gays, and nothing against gay marriage. I honestly hate it when people say that God doesn't love gays. It may be in Leviticus, but whoever wrote that was on drugs. Anyways, the Bible also says that God (if there is a God) loves all his children, and there are no exceptions, not even gays. |
Ahem, the guy on drugs who wrote Leviticus was God. |
God didn't write the Bible. It was written by people to create a text-based form of God's teachings.
Leviticus 20:13 states that those who engage in homosexual acts be put to death. However, those were simply the alleged words said to Moses by God, not written by God himself. |
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Bartz Klauser
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:22 pm
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| Cherry wrote: | | Die4Less wrote: | | Captain Gordon wrote: | | I may be a Christian, but I have no quarrel with gays, and nothing against gay marriage. I honestly hate it when people say that God doesn't love gays. It may be in Leviticus, but whoever wrote that was on drugs. Anyways, the Bible also says that God (if there is a God) loves all his children, and there are no exceptions, not even gays. |
Ahem, the guy on drugs who wrote Leviticus was God. |
God didn't write the Bible. It was written by people to create a text-based form of God's teachings.
Leviticus 20:13 states that those who engage in homosexual acts be put to death. However, those were simply the alleged words said to Moses by God, not written by God himself. |
The biggest thing about this, is that while the original Bibles may not have stated this, translations across thousands of years may have caused this to happen. This was quite common, if I am correct.
Anyways, basing your viewpoints and using religion to back it up isn't a very intelligent thing to do. Why? Not everyone is of the same religion, and this even applies here, since I'm Hindu, and have very little knowledge about the Bible, besides from Revelations and a few other major points, Basing points that others may not know about isn't a very good idea.
Also: might I point this out? If God were all-powerful, and he said that, why couldn't he just have prevented it in the first place? If anyone wishes to answer that, reply to me in a PM or something, since I don't want to derail this topic further. |
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Die4Less
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:01 pm
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God wants it to be so you have a choice. You could choose to heed him or not. He sent Jesus to die on the cross as a forgiving of our sins, now it's up to us wether we accept it or not. |
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Dark Lord Eternal
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:31 pm
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I am nearly certain that the Christian Bible says "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them." in Leviticus.
It was certainly one of the most repulsive things I have ever heard to be spawned from the tool of control that is religion.
The reason that I hold this strong opinion is because I believe that nobody, absolutely nobody, has any right at all to tell somebody else what they can do with their body or who they can love when it harms nobody.
To forcefully impose one's beliefs upon another is nothing short of fascism, in my opinion. |
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Shadoo Omega
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:43 pm
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The Bible has been rewritten and changed so many times, it's not even the Bible anymore. It's an abomination filled with Man's lies.What hath becometh of this world? Slanderous lies and ignorance. |
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Master Shake
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:35 pm
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| Hanyuu wrote: | | Laharl wrote: | | Master Shake wrote: | Nope, then all the gay kids are gonna get mad because they cant have a real "marriage" just because of the name. Some would be happy but shit.. gay people want everything the same..
I disagree with gay marriages 100 percent. Its just wrong. Gay marriages are like another saying for like a ceremony for being best buds. Pointless shit |
Think about this. Would you like it if you couldn't marry someone you loved? Doesn't matter if that person is male or female. And give more specifications to your words. I absolutely hate it when someone says "It's just wrong." Why? Well, there's no reasoning to it.
And honestly, I kinda doubt you've met any homosexual people that don't follow the media-perpetrated stereotype(which is quite a lot, actually), from those words. Even then, when you meet one, you won't realize it until they flat out tell you. They're like vegetarians, only to a different extent. Vegetarians prefer non-dairy products, homosexuals prefer those of their same sex.
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I've known many a homosexual, and none where like the way the media portrays them. The media twists everything for it's sick little game. It's hard to find any HONEST media production these days.
I don't disapprove of homosexuality, I just find it pointless. Well...I guess in my book that IS disapproving it, but not "just cause". I'm an engine of logic, not feeling. That's my reasoning. But meh, whatever. Just don't bug me, and I could care less what the hell you do with you life.
Flame me for this and I will rip out your throat. I find it funny how some people will sit there and yell at people for being intolerant of stiff like homosexuality, and yet, they're just being intolerant to other peoples opinions. Thus, they are hypocrites. Why can't everyone just mind there own business, and get on with there lives? *sigh* |
Oh lol, I guess I wasn't thinking all that right yesterday..forgot all about the media, it influenced my whole mind about gay people. The whole world these days are stereotypes :s
I would wanna marry the person I love, but you know what its their decision I dont care if they wanna have a gay marriage or not.
Actually.. this shouldnt even be a big deal its the persons choice what to do with their life, and who they should live with.
But overall, I think gay marriages are pointless but whatever. |
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Super ShadowArticuno
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| Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:37 pm
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I honestly don't see why this subject is so controversial - Just let people marry whoever they want. I don't care about homosexuals and I don't believe that they should be given any special treatment, but it's not like allowing someone to marry someone of the same sex is truly "special treatment" in an age when all sorts of things that would have been considered "off the wall" or "completely wrong in every single way" in the past are becoming commonplace. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:15 am
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Yeah, sometimes I wonder WTF my religion is doing. I believe in God, by I have some trouble with the bible. On the subject of Leviticus, the entire Old Testament has God being... not so much the Boy scout Superman we know, but more a jealous God. I'm glad that's over.
I think the bible did contain the word of god, but either lots of it was Lost in Translation, or people added things which might have made sense or been fine at their time (for example, some of the instructions in the bible on how to take water 'where it pleases the Lord' actually describe places where there's the least chance of waterborne diseases; so the bible was also used to make people STFU and survive. Not all of it is bad.) - well, which were fine at their time but in today's society we hold different values and morals and have an entire different structure of life.
Also, the pope just said that condoms = evil.
I thought we were a religion of love and forgiveness and good for the people, so what happened to common sense and compromises ?
I dunno of I'm prejudiced agaisnt gays or not, I haven't met any. Let them marry whomever they want, the planet is too overpopulated anyway. |
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Dark Lord Eternal
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:18 am
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Yes, Leviticus is in the Old Testament. So indeed, this passage of hatred can't be pinned on simply being "new". I believe you're correct about there likely being many mistranslations. But regardless, I'm not into religion.
What I am into is putting an end to prejudice and oppression, and it appears the U.S. is on the right road at the moment. (Provided we can sidestep any conservative treachery before the end.) |
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CFH
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:34 pm
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Because the bible said so ain't an excuse to prohibit gay marriage. First, our laws are supposed to be separated from religion. And then there's the fact nobody follows what the bible says anymore. Did you know that it tells people to stone children who don't obey to death?
Furthermore, this topic isn't worth being discussed. Too much people in an expected mass agreement. |
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Ruki Motomiya
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:11 pm
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As a Bi-Sexual, I think my stance here is obvious. |
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Dark Lord Eternal
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:08 pm
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| Jumpin' Jack Flash wrote: | | Because the bible said so ain't an excuse to prohibit gay marriage. First, our laws are supposed to be separated from religion. And then there's the fact nobody follows what the bible says anymore. Did you know that it tells people to stone children who don't obey to death? |
You're absolutely correct. I find it amusing that so many swear by such a book.
Did you know that King James, the man who approved the creation of the King James Bible, was a bi-sexual? Most of the people in my area upon being told this are either infuriated or claim that the people who recorded history lied. Most amusing of all is when they claim that I'm a homosexual, and I respond by opening my cell phone and calling my girlfriend.
I'm most eager to begin college and move out of this area. |
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