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Fat Tuper
lovegod703
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No way it's wrong. I mean, saying that gay people don't deserve the right to be married is like saying black people don't have the right to be married, or saying women don't have the right to.... I don't know, there, because marriage would be the same thing as being gay there, but being gay isn't wrong, it's just different. They can't help it if they're gay, or not. That's like saying that it's your fault you were born as a guy or girl, or something like that.
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Dark Lord Eternal
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:37 pm
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It's nothing more than hating and trying to eliminate something just because it's different. |
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Die4Less
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:11 pm
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We are a country founded on Christian principles, I think that could be the reason for everyone going insane over this. The influence is there, even if everyone goes aethiest, so it still exists to an extent, and will affect decision making. |
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Dark Lord Eternal
Dragus
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:15 pm
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Some of the earlier people who settled in North America were by coincidence christians. (To be specific Puritans, who I believe were the "Nazis" of the old times.)
It's still only a coincidence, in my opinion. The country was founded upon freedom, and there is nothing of christianity in the constitution, unless I'm mistaken. |
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CFH
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:19 pm
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| Dragus wrote: | | Jumpin' Jack Flash wrote: | | Because the bible said so ain't an excuse to prohibit gay marriage. First, our laws are supposed to be separated from religion. And then there's the fact nobody follows what the bible says anymore. Did you know that it tells people to stone children who don't obey to death? |
You're absolutely correct. I find it amusing that so many swear by such a book.
Did you know that King James, the man who approved the creation of the King James Bible, was a bi-sexual? Most of the people in my area upon being told this are either infuriated or claim that the people who recorded history lied. Most amusing of all is when they claim that I'm a homosexual, and I respond by opening my cell phone and calling my girlfriend.
I'm most eager to begin college and move out of this area. |
Heh, people desperate for a scapegoat are funny. They could start by saying what reason could a historian have to lie. |
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Dark Lord Eternal
Dragus
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:36 pm
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Indeed they could.
Perhaps if the oppressive Puritans hadn't been forced from power in Europe, they could have changed history to cover up England ever having a bi-sexual king, but that was (Thankfully) of course not the case. |
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Screamy
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 9:05 pm
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I believe being gay is wrong. But, I don't believe the government should be able to tell them they can't get married. It's their business not the government's. Also discrimination against gay people is wrong as well. We should just let them be what they want to be. There are much more important issues that so-called Christians should be worried about, than trying to stop gays from getting married. |
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Super Mario
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| Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:13 pm
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| Hanyuu wrote: | I could honestly care less. You love another man or woman? Great for you. Just leave me alone. So no, I don't see it as "wrong".
I DO however, see it as stupid and illogical. I mean, isn't the point of marriage to join a MAN and WOMAN together, so they can have sex, and start a family? Two woman, or two men cannot have children, which completely destroys the point of marriage and love. |
Homosexuals have every right to marry, despite the fact of not having children, but women couples can have babies through donated sperm. |
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vdogam3r
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:13 pm
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If you love somebody enough, let them marry.
Many people who say otherwise are, literally, homophobic. They don't like seeing men having "interactions" with other men. Kissing, hugging, slapping each other's behind, etc. I myself, don't like seeing that, but I don't think there's anything wrong with them getting married. I may be a tad homophobic, but I'm not one to ruin another's relationship.
Also, many people prefer woman x woman than man x man. Try to answer that one without using the words "Lesbians are more attractive than gays." |
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koopakape
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| Frozenwinters wrote: | | If two people love each other it shouldn't matter what sex they are. |
or color/race
or religion/spirituality/beliefs
or political stances
or any kind of opinions or thoughts
or any kind of physical or mental abnormalities
love is blind to all of these things if two people truly love each other
i'm a born-and-raised good-old southern boy christian and i fully support gay marriage
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Master of Puppets...
The Chaos Heart
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 1:18 pm
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| Super Mario wrote: | | Hanyuu wrote: | I could honestly care less. You love another man or woman? Great for you. Just leave me alone. So no, I don't see it as "wrong".
I DO however, see it as stupid and illogical. I mean, isn't the point of marriage to join a MAN and WOMAN together, so they can have sex, and start a family? Two woman, or two men cannot have children, which completely destroys the point of marriage and love. |
Homosexuals have every right to marry, despite the fact of not having children, but women couples can have babies through donated sperm. |
I'm not saying they don't have a right. I never said they should not be allowed to get married. It's just stupid and illogical. It's not how things were meant to work. Donating sperm is not how humans were designed to reproduce. Same sex marriages are not how humans were designed to reproduce.
The animal kingdom has no homosexuals. Humans are not above animals. Humans, in many cases, are worse than animals in the way they live. Marriage in general has it's flaws, though I can see where it has its place in THIS culture. However, homosexual marriage goes against ever aspect of human reproduction. It's stupid, pointless, and I really don't care.
This, however, does not relate to LOVE. Love in of itself is illogical, however, I will say you are free to love whomever you wish. Government should play no role in that.
Love and marriage are separate things. Whereas love is a feeling, marriage is designed to continue the species. Homosexual marriage does NOT continue the species, it just cares for what is already made, but we already have plenty of methods BETTER than homosexual marriage for this.
What if EVERYONE was homosexual? Would the world advance at all?
No.
It would decline.
Thus, homosexual MARRIAGE is illogical, due to the fact it does not benefit society, but rather, harms it.
Homosexual LOVE is a completely different subject. My only opinion on this is that love in it's self is illogical. To give yourself up to another is truly foolish and disgusting in my eyes, no matter what the combination.
That is all.
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Screamy
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:01 pm
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| Hanyuu wrote: | | Super Mario wrote: | | Hanyuu wrote: | I could honestly care less. You love another man or woman? Great for you. Just leave me alone. So no, I don't see it as "wrong".
I DO however, see it as stupid and illogical. I mean, isn't the point of marriage to join a MAN and WOMAN together, so they can have sex, and start a family? Two woman, or two men cannot have children, which completely destroys the point of marriage and love. |
Homosexuals have every right to marry, despite the fact of not having children, but women couples can have babies through donated sperm. |
I'm not saying they don't have a right. I never said they should not be allowed to get married. It's just stupid and illogical. It's not how things were meant to work. Donating sperm is not how humans were designed to reproduce. Same sex marriages are not how humans were designed to reproduce.
The animal kingdom has no homosexuals. Humans are not above animals. Humans, in many cases, are worse than animals in the way they live. Marriage in general has it's flaws, though I can see where it has its place in THIS culture. However, homosexual marriage goes against ever aspect of human reproduction. It's stupid, pointless, and I really don't care.
This, however, does not relate to LOVE. Love in of itself is illogical, however, I will say you are free to love whomever you wish. Government should play no role in that.
Love and marriage are separate things. Whereas love is a feeling, marriage is designed to continue the species. Homosexual marriage does NOT continue the species, it just cares for what is already made, but we already have plenty of methods BETTER than homosexual marriage for this.
What if EVERYONE was homosexual? Would the world advance at all?
No.
It would decline.
Thus, homosexual MARRIAGE is illogical, due to the fact it does not benefit society, but rather, harms it.
Homosexual LOVE is a completely different subject. My only opinion on this is that love in it's self is illogical. To give yourself up to another is truly foolish and disgusting in my eyes, no matter what the combination.
That is all.
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If it's "love" why is it called homosexuality, why not homophilia? |
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Master of Puppets...
The Chaos Heart
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:29 pm
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| Screamy wrote: | | Hanyuu wrote: | | Super Mario wrote: | | Hanyuu wrote: | I could honestly care less. You love another man or woman? Great for you. Just leave me alone. So no, I don't see it as "wrong".
I DO however, see it as stupid and illogical. I mean, isn't the point of marriage to join a MAN and WOMAN together, so they can have sex, and start a family? Two woman, or two men cannot have children, which completely destroys the point of marriage and love. |
Homosexuals have every right to marry, despite the fact of not having children, but women couples can have babies through donated sperm. |
I'm not saying they don't have a right. I never said they should not be allowed to get married. It's just stupid and illogical. It's not how things were meant to work. Donating sperm is not how humans were designed to reproduce. Same sex marriages are not how humans were designed to reproduce.
The animal kingdom has no homosexuals. Humans are not above animals. Humans, in many cases, are worse than animals in the way they live. Marriage in general has it's flaws, though I can see where it has its place in THIS culture. However, homosexual marriage goes against ever aspect of human reproduction. It's stupid, pointless, and I really don't care.
This, however, does not relate to LOVE. Love in of itself is illogical, however, I will say you are free to love whomever you wish. Government should play no role in that.
Love and marriage are separate things. Whereas love is a feeling, marriage is designed to continue the species. Homosexual marriage does NOT continue the species, it just cares for what is already made, but we already have plenty of methods BETTER than homosexual marriage for this.
What if EVERYONE was homosexual? Would the world advance at all?
No.
It would decline.
Thus, homosexual MARRIAGE is illogical, due to the fact it does not benefit society, but rather, harms it.
Homosexual LOVE is a completely different subject. My only opinion on this is that love in it's self is illogical. To give yourself up to another is truly foolish and disgusting in my eyes, no matter what the combination.
That is all.
*takes a bite of cake* |
If it's "love" why is it called homosexuality, why not homophilia? |
...I don't understand what you are getting at? What does the name of the term have to do with this topic? |
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CFH
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IT'S COUNTER-WALLOFTEXTING TIME
| Hanyuu wrote: | | It's not how things were meant to work. Donating sperm is not how humans were designed to reproduce. Same sex marriages are not how humans were designed to reproduce. |
Humans were designed to act as animals that pick up food that was left lieing out there, much like hyenas. Do we still do that nowadays? Remember, the way humans live now is a whole lot different than the lifestyle they were designed to live under.
| Hanyuu wrote: | | The animal kingdom has no homosexuals. Humans are not above animals. Humans, in many cases, are worse than animals in the way they live. |
And this is pertinent to gay marriage, how? All animal species have differences, so, it's quite tricky to compare the life of one species to the rest of them all.
| Hanyuu wrote: | | However, homosexual marriage goes against ever aspect of human reproduction. It's stupid, pointless, and I really don't care. |
Um, just so you know, sex and children isn't the reason why people marry. In fact, marriage is not a requirement in having sex and children.
| Hanyuu wrote: | | Love and marriage are separate things. Whereas love is a feeling, marriage is designed to continue the species. Homosexual marriage does NOT continue the species, it just cares for what is already made, but we already have plenty of methods BETTER than homosexual marriage for this. |
Again, sex and children isn't the reason why people marry.
| Hanyuu wrote: | What if EVERYONE was homosexual? Would the world advance at all?
No.
It would decline. |
Is EVERYONE homosexual? No.
Furthermore, more homosexuality would actually be handy in some parts of the world -- see, overpopulated countries with overflowing birth rate.
| Hanyuu wrote: | | Thus, homosexual MARRIAGE is illogical, due to the fact it does not benefit society, but rather, harms it. |
It harms society, how? Even if they have no children, there are several other couples to make up for it. They'd hinder society if the burden of reproduction was up to them, but it's not, so, the worst they can do is anger hard religious people.
| Hanyuu wrote: | | Homosexual LOVE is a completely different subject. My only opinion on this is that love in it's self is illogical. To give yourself up to another is truly foolish and disgusting in my eyes, no matter what the combination. |
Then again, some people are just not worth being on their own. There ARE some uses to love; the only thing I see as wrong in it is that it's been made too widespread and overrated. But that's not pertinent to the topic in hand so I'll just shut up here. |
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Screamy
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:36 pm
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| Hanyuu wrote: | | Screamy wrote: | | Hanyuu wrote: | | Super Mario wrote: | | Hanyuu wrote: | I could honestly care less. You love another man or woman? Great for you. Just leave me alone. So no, I don't see it as "wrong".
I DO however, see it as stupid and illogical. I mean, isn't the point of marriage to join a MAN and WOMAN together, so they can have sex, and start a family? Two woman, or two men cannot have children, which completely destroys the point of marriage and love. |
Homosexuals have every right to marry, despite the fact of not having children, but women couples can have babies through donated sperm. |
I'm not saying they don't have a right. I never said they should not be allowed to get married. It's just stupid and illogical. It's not how things were meant to work. Donating sperm is not how humans were designed to reproduce. Same sex marriages are not how humans were designed to reproduce.
The animal kingdom has no homosexuals. Humans are not above animals. Humans, in many cases, are worse than animals in the way they live. Marriage in general has it's flaws, though I can see where it has its place in THIS culture. However, homosexual marriage goes against ever aspect of human reproduction. It's stupid, pointless, and I really don't care.
This, however, does not relate to LOVE. Love in of itself is illogical, however, I will say you are free to love whomever you wish. Government should play no role in that.
Love and marriage are separate things. Whereas love is a feeling, marriage is designed to continue the species. Homosexual marriage does NOT continue the species, it just cares for what is already made, but we already have plenty of methods BETTER than homosexual marriage for this.
What if EVERYONE was homosexual? Would the world advance at all?
No.
It would decline.
Thus, homosexual MARRIAGE is illogical, due to the fact it does not benefit society, but rather, harms it.
Homosexual LOVE is a completely different subject. My only opinion on this is that love in it's self is illogical. To give yourself up to another is truly foolish and disgusting in my eyes, no matter what the combination.
That is all.
*takes a bite of cake* |
If it's "love" why is it called homosexuality, why not homophilia? |
...I don't understand what you are getting at? What does the name of the term have to do with this topic? |
Because the term only applies to sexual attraction, they should change the name. |
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