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RaveRaze
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Why this is quite pleasing to my eyes [list=]No more drug trafficking (or severely lightened drug trafficking)
No more Illegal immigrants
No more random Mexican teenage assassins
No more shitty border jokes
No more Texans whining about how the Mexicans are coming into their state and harassing their woman
More jobs for manufacturing industries and Police in Texas
Its a great thing for Obama to do to gain some Republican support in the south, which voted heavily for Mccain
The Texan governor will stop harassing the senate
New Mexico's death toll will decrease
and other shit which is pretty cool [/list]
So yes finally after so many years, someone has a better idea than putting up a fence. Obama is placing troops near the border and even in mexico, mostly for drug cartels, which will severely decrease any more violent rages in Mexico hitting the US. This is another big thing because with these Drug Cartels wiped out, Mexico will have the chance of rising from the position of a 2nd world country to that of a 1st world country. And with that being said it could make North America the most advanced continent in the world. Also by instating troops in Mexico instead of having an Oligarchy (i believe its an Oligarchy i dont quite remember) it will switch over to more democratic policies. One which includes the destruction of any Monopolies (Yes this is in fact a democratic value, not just a Capatalist one) so the richest man in the world, the Mexican Telephone guy will drop a few billions of dollars. So yes discuss and stoof
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/24/obama.mexico.policy/index.html |
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| Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:43 pm
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...no comment. :/
I just... don't know what to say. Lotsa my family are illegal immigrants. Hell, my mom was for a while. |
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Congratulations to Obama. I have nothing against illegal immigrants PERSONALLY, however, I believe illegal immigrants should be punished. It's like the book, "Les Miserables". Jean Valjean was in a tough situation, yes. However, many families in France were in a tough situation during this time as well. Who is he to think he can steal to support his family? He is not above the law. He is just a criminal. Same with illegal immigrants. The waiting list may be long to get into America, but they are not the ONLY families with problems. Why do you THINK so many people want to come here? They are all waiting in accordance with the law, and you just think you can hop a fence, and all is good? No. You are no better than those waiting in line. Who the hell do you think you are? They are just criminals, and need to be punished. They deserve no special treatment. |
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I am at a loss for words. |
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| RaveRaze wrote: | Why this is quite pleasing to my eyes [list=]No more drug trafficking (or severely lightened drug trafficking)
No more Illegal immigrants
No more random Mexican teenage assassins
No more shitty border jokes
No more Texans whining about how the Mexicans are coming into their state and harassing their woman
More jobs for manufacturing industries and Police in Texas
Its a great thing for Obama to do to gain some Republican support in the south, which voted heavily for Mccain
The Texan governor will stop harassing the senate
New Mexico's death toll will decrease
and other shit which is pretty cool [/list]
So yes finally after so many years, someone has a better idea than putting up a fence. Obama is placing troops near the border and even in mexico, mostly for drug cartels, which will severely decrease any more violent rages in Mexico hitting the US. This is another big thing because with these Drug Cartels wiped out, Mexico will have the chance of rising from the position of a 2nd world country to that of a 1st world country. And with that being said it could make North America the most advanced continent in the world. Also by instating troops in Mexico instead of having an Oligarchy (i believe its an Oligarchy i dont quite remember) it will switch over to more democratic policies. One which includes the destruction of any Monopolies (Yes this is in fact a democratic value, not just a Capatalist one) so the richest man in the world, the Mexican Telephone guy will drop a few billions of dollars. So yes discuss and stoof
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/24/obama.mexico.policy/index.html |
Mexico is a democracy... and not every Mexican who comes into America is a drug runner... Mexico has a free market economy , not a Socialist one. Also, we're not "instating" troops in Mexico we're giving them money to help them fight drug trafficking with their own police and military forces... Mexico is our ally, and how would stopping drug cartels from coming in to our country affect their monopolies at all??, if they even have any that is. |
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RaveRaze
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 5:13 pm
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| Screamy wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | Why this is quite pleasing to my eyes [list=]No more drug trafficking (or severely lightened drug trafficking)
No more Illegal immigrants
No more random Mexican teenage assassins
No more shitty border jokes
No more Texans whining about how the Mexicans are coming into their state and harassing their woman
More jobs for manufacturing industries and Police in Texas
Its a great thing for Obama to do to gain some Republican support in the south, which voted heavily for Mccain
The Texan governor will stop harassing the senate
New Mexico's death toll will decrease
and other shit which is pretty cool [/list]
So yes finally after so many years, someone has a better idea than putting up a fence. Obama is placing troops near the border and even in mexico, mostly for drug cartels, which will severely decrease any more violent rages in Mexico hitting the US. This is another big thing because with these Drug Cartels wiped out, Mexico will have the chance of rising from the position of a 2nd world country to that of a 1st world country. And with that being said it could make North America the most advanced continent in the world. Also by instating troops in Mexico instead of having an Oligarchy (i believe its an Oligarchy i dont quite remember) it will switch over to more democratic policies. One which includes the destruction of any Monopolies (Yes this is in fact a democratic value, not just a Capatalist one) so the richest man in the world, the Mexican Telephone guy will drop a few billions of dollars. So yes discuss and stoof
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/24/obama.mexico.policy/index.html |
Mexico is a democracy... and not every Mexican who comes into America is a drug runner... Mexico has a free market economy , not a Socialist one. Also, we're not "instating" troops in Mexico we're giving them money to help them fight drug trafficking with their own police and military forces... Mexico is our ally, and how would stopping drug cartels from coming in to our country affect their monopolies at all??, if they even have any that is. |
Well some southern country has some form of an Oligarchy. And while it may have a free market, its super free so its not really a capatilist one, meaning monopolies can be formed. If America hadnt had this law placed then there would be no apple products. And its better be safe than sorry, id rather kick the illegal immigrants out then giving some drug runners a chance. And yeah we are sending our troops thats why there hasnt been ANY drug related killings in all of mexico. And if I said drug cartels are effecting economies than yeah i didnt mean to. Also if Mexico didnt allow monopolies then there could be individual telecommunication companies in Mexico, South America, and Africa and not just one big Mexitel |
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Bartz Klauser
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 6:08 pm
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Screamy wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | Why this is quite pleasing to my eyes [list=]No more drug trafficking (or severely lightened drug trafficking)
No more Illegal immigrants
No more random Mexican teenage assassins
No more shitty border jokes
No more Texans whining about how the Mexicans are coming into their state and harassing their woman
More jobs for manufacturing industries and Police in Texas
Its a great thing for Obama to do to gain some Republican support in the south, which voted heavily for Mccain
The Texan governor will stop harassing the senate
New Mexico's death toll will decrease
and other shit which is pretty cool [/list]
So yes finally after so many years, someone has a better idea than putting up a fence. Obama is placing troops near the border and even in mexico, mostly for drug cartels, which will severely decrease any more violent rages in Mexico hitting the US. This is another big thing because with these Drug Cartels wiped out, Mexico will have the chance of rising from the position of a 2nd world country to that of a 1st world country. And with that being said it could make North America the most advanced continent in the world. Also by instating troops in Mexico instead of having an Oligarchy (i believe its an Oligarchy i dont quite remember) it will switch over to more democratic policies. One which includes the destruction of any Monopolies (Yes this is in fact a democratic value, not just a Capatalist one) so the richest man in the world, the Mexican Telephone guy will drop a few billions of dollars. So yes discuss and stoof
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/03/24/obama.mexico.policy/index.html |
Mexico is a democracy... and not every Mexican who comes into America is a drug runner... Mexico has a free market economy , not a Socialist one. Also, we're not "instating" troops in Mexico we're giving them money to help them fight drug trafficking with their own police and military forces... Mexico is our ally, and how would stopping drug cartels from coming in to our country affect their monopolies at all??, if they even have any that is. |
Well some southern country has some form of an Oligarchy. And while it may have a free market, its super free so its not really a capatilist one, meaning monopolies can be formed. If America hadnt had this law placed then there would be no apple products. And its better be safe than sorry, id rather kick the illegal immigrants out then giving some drug runners a chance. And yeah we are sending our troops thats why there hasnt been ANY drug related killings in all of mexico. And if I said drug cartels are effecting economies than yeah i didnt mean to. Also if Mexico didnt allow monopolies then there could be individual telecommunication companies in Mexico, South America, and Africa and not just one big Mexitel |
The free market is capitalism, and if you look it right, ending monopolies is actually somewhat communist, actually distorting the capitalist's society's pyramid structure.
Also, they're not sending troops into Mexico. They're giving support, just as Screamy said.
| Quote: | | The new federal plan, developed by the departments of Justice and Homeland Security, calls for doubling the number of border security task force teams and moving a significant number of other federal agents, equipment and resources to the border. It also involves greater intelligence sharing aimed at cracking down on the flow of money and weapons into Mexico that helps fuel the drug trade |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:41 pm
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You realize that article is about the Mexican army, right? Also competition should have the ability to eliminate monopolies not the government, at least that is how I feel. The whole Microsoft v. United States thing was about Internet Explorer coming bundled with windows, it has absolutely nothing to do with apple being in the business. The reason why apple exists today is because of the consumer, not because of the government. |
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RaveRaze
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No thats american troops, I dont know where you got the idea of Mexican troops from. Drug Cartels actually train their thugs better than the Mexican Army trains its soldiers. If it was the Mexican army there then there would be a boom in drug related killings.
And I couldnt really care less about business law |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:55 pm
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| RaveRaze wrote: | No thats american troops, I dont know where you got the idea of Mexican troops from. Drug Cartels actually train their thugs better than the Mexican Army trains its soldiers. If it was the Mexican army there then there would be a boom in drug related killings.
And I couldnt really care less about business law |
Did you read the article? "The power of the Mexican military was on full display Tuesday in Ciudad Juarez, where police reported the third consecutive day without a drug slaying." Right there, the first sentence. |
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RaveRaze
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:01 pm
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Countries consider allied troops part of their army thats why it said mexican army, not cause it was actually the mexican army |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:04 pm
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Countries consider allied troops part of their army thats why it said mexican army, not cause it was actually the mexican army |
Sir, in Iraq, Americans are NOT called the Iraqi Army. |
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:07 pm
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Countries consider allied troops part of their army thats why it said mexican army, not cause it was actually the mexican army |
No we don't consider allied troops part of our army. Of course it was the Mexican army, what the hell would we be doing in Mexico? We gave them money and protect our side of the border, they protect theirs. We don't have the right to arrest their citizens in their country. |
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Bartz Klauser
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Also: Support =/= intervention.
Intervention is a form of support, but support isn't just intervention.
By supporting the Mexican government like this, the US is pretty much giving them the training wheels to fixing this problem. It won't be immediate, but it'll do.
And yeah, if I were to send my troops into your country, they would still be considered my troops, under order from me, and my responsibility. |
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