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Screamy
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 Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:37 pm
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Hate to bring up this topic again, but what we should do is make marijuana legal. It would cut down significantly on crime, here and in Mexico. The drug runners wouldn't have as much business, since marijuana is the most widely used illegal recreational drug. Private companies would most likely take over the sale and production of marijuana, the government would obviously tax it, since they tax cigarettes and alcohol. So the government would make more money, not need to send any to Mexico, save money because they wouldn't need to arrest potheads anymore, and cut down on this ridiculous national debt that Obama is just making worse. |
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Bartz Klauser
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:42 pm
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| Screamy wrote: | | Hate to bring up this topic again, but what we should do is make marijuana legal. It would cut down significantly on crime, here and in Mexico. The drug runners wouldn't have as much business, since marijuana is the most widely used illegal recreational drug. Private companies would most likely take over the sale and production of marijuana, the government would obviously tax it, since they tax cigarettes and alcohol. So the government would make more money, not need to send any to Mexico, save money because they wouldn't need to arrest potheads anymore, and cut down on this ridiculous national debt that Obama is just making worse. |
This is actually a fairly good idea, but it wouldn't be too well-supported by the public, much of which is fairly misinformed, which brought up a fairly large issue in the previous topic. Taxing it would bring in a fair supply of cash, too, since it's pretty widely used, and they wouldn't have to spend any extra money on drug-fighting, just as you said there. |
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Screamy
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Exactly, all these damn school guest speakers and above the influence crap are just feeding lies to and misinforming the public. It's really a shame when it would actually help our country. Another thing I forgot to mention is it would create lots and lots of jobs. |
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Bartz Klauser
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| Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 9:16 pm
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Exactly, it's one option for consideration, too.
But too bad, and much like the Iraq "War", we've dug ourselves in a hole too deep to get out. |
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Screamy
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True, but thankfully we're closer to it being legalized now than we've ever been. Maybe it will happen in our lifetime. I just hope that if it does, I won't be too old to enjoy it. |
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Bartz Klauser
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True, true.
And I think we should get back to the topic. That would certainly help reduce the drug problem, but what if drugs that were smuggled were cheaper and whatnot? |
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| Geno wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Countries consider allied troops part of their army thats why it said mexican army, not cause it was actually the mexican army |
Sir, in Iraq, Americans are NOT called the Iraqi Army. |
Thats cause the Iraqis dont want us there.
@Screamy: Were giving them money and support so their people dont wanna come here, and to try and reduce the amount of drugs in America
@Lahari: Were basically there to help ourselves so id consider that an intervention
@Screamy: Marijuana is legal in Mexico. The Mexican goverment doesnt really care if Marijuanas getting into the US just as long nobodys going along with it.
@The Idea of Legalizing Pot: Im all for the Legalizing of all drugs worldwide. It'll help most of the third world countries that are in a growth stunt due to illegal drug trade Ex. Afghanistan |
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Bartz Klauser
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Geno wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Countries consider allied troops part of their army thats why it said mexican army, not cause it was actually the mexican army |
Sir, in Iraq, Americans are NOT called the Iraqi Army. |
Thats cause the Iraqis dont want us there.
@Screamy: Were giving them money and support so their people dont wanna come here, and to try and reduce the amount of drugs in America
@Lahari: Were basically there to help ourselves so id consider that an intervention
@Screamy: Marijuana is legal in Mexico. The Mexican goverment doesnt really care if Marijuanas getting into the US just as long nobodys going along with it.
@The Idea of Legalizing Pot: Im all for the Legalizing of all drugs worldwide. It'll help most of the third world countries that are in a growth stunt due to illegal drug trade Ex. Afghanistan |
Look, even if you place troops a country, the troops aren't part of the country's army. They're not enlisted in their military.
No, we're not actually going there, nor are we sending money so they don't come here. They're just preventing illegal immigration and drug trading. Read, yo. | Quote: | The plan commits $700 million to bolster Mexican law enforcement and crime prevention efforts. The funds will provide, among other things, five new helicopters to increase mobility for the Mexican army and air force as well as new surveillance aircraft for the Mexican navy.
The funds also will support enhanced communications technology for Mexican prosecutors, law enforcement and immigration officials.
The $700 million allocation, meant to assist what administration officials described as an "anti-smuggling effort," will complement ongoing U.S. aid to Mexico under the Merida initiative: a three-year, $1.4 billion package aimed at helping Mexico fight the drug cartels with law enforcement training, military equipment and improved intelligence cooperation. |
And intervention, in short, is going there and doing the work ourselves. They're not intervening there. They're simply providing the Mexican government with support via money or military supplies. |
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Screamy
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It's doubtful they would be cheaper, first off its still illegal in Mexico, RaveRaze. What drives the price of marijuana so high these days is because its illegal. Even if it was legal here, and illegal in Mexico it would still be illegal to carry it across the border since you're not supposed to have it in the first place.
This means that drug lords would still have to pay for someone to grow it illegally in Mexico, since he could get caught the cost to grow would be inflated. The cost to smuggle the plant out of Mexico would raise the cost even more.
In the United States we would probably make sellers acquire a license to sell marijuana, since it is required for alcohol. So, giving it to an unlicensed dealer in America would probably bring up the cost as well. Not to mention that dealers in America and Europe typically add "filler" substances to marijuana to make it weigh more, in order to cheat people. A lot of times these additives can be dangerous, there have even been reports of dealers using small amounts of glass to cheat people out of what they pay for. You can guess what inhaling very fine shards of glass does to your lungs.
All these factors would drive the cost of smuggled weed up extraordinarily high, and make it a dangerous option. It would simply save money and be safer to just buy it from the store. |
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RaveRaze
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| Screamy wrote: | It's doubtful they would be cheaper, first off its still illegal in Mexico, RaveRaze. What drives the price of marijuana so high these days is because its illegal. Even if it was legal here, and illegal in Mexico it would still be illegal to carry it across the border since you're not supposed to have it in the first place.
This means that drug lords would still have to pay for someone to grow it illegally in Mexico, since he could get caught the cost to grow would be inflated. The cost to smuggle the plant out of Mexico would raise the cost even more.
In the United States we would probably make sellers acquire a license to sell marijuana, since it is required for alcohol. So, giving it to an unlicensed dealer in America would probably bring up the cost as well. Not to mention that dealers in America and Europe typically add "filler" substances to marijuana to make it weigh more, in order to cheat people. A lot of times these additives can be dangerous, there have even been reports of dealers using small amounts of glass to cheat people out of what they pay for. You can guess what inhaling very fine shards of glass does to your lungs.
All these factors would drive the cost of smuggled weed up extraordinarily high, and make it a dangerous option. It would simply save money and be safer to just buy it from the store. |
Well I was provided False facts about the legality of Mexican Drugs, the New york times lied to me |
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Bartz Klauser
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| RaveRaze wrote: | | Screamy wrote: | It's doubtful they would be cheaper, first off its still illegal in Mexico, RaveRaze. What drives the price of marijuana so high these days is because its illegal. Even if it was legal here, and illegal in Mexico it would still be illegal to carry it across the border since you're not supposed to have it in the first place.
This means that drug lords would still have to pay for someone to grow it illegally in Mexico, since he could get caught the cost to grow would be inflated. The cost to smuggle the plant out of Mexico would raise the cost even more.
In the United States we would probably make sellers acquire a license to sell marijuana, since it is required for alcohol. So, giving it to an unlicensed dealer in America would probably bring up the cost as well. Not to mention that dealers in America and Europe typically add "filler" substances to marijuana to make it weigh more, in order to cheat people. A lot of times these additives can be dangerous, there have even been reports of dealers using small amounts of glass to cheat people out of what they pay for. You can guess what inhaling very fine shards of glass does to your lungs.
All these factors would drive the cost of smuggled weed up extraordinarily high, and make it a dangerous option. It would simply save money and be safer to just buy it from the store. |
Well I was provided False facts about the legality of Mexican Drugs, the New york times lied to me |
I think you just misread. You have a tendency to do that. |
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| Laharl wrote: | | RaveRaze wrote: | | Screamy wrote: | It's doubtful they would be cheaper, first off its still illegal in Mexico, RaveRaze. What drives the price of marijuana so high these days is because its illegal. Even if it was legal here, and illegal in Mexico it would still be illegal to carry it across the border since you're not supposed to have it in the first place.
This means that drug lords would still have to pay for someone to grow it illegally in Mexico, since he could get caught the cost to grow would be inflated. The cost to smuggle the plant out of Mexico would raise the cost even more.
In the United States we would probably make sellers acquire a license to sell marijuana, since it is required for alcohol. So, giving it to an unlicensed dealer in America would probably bring up the cost as well. Not to mention that dealers in America and Europe typically add "filler" substances to marijuana to make it weigh more, in order to cheat people. A lot of times these additives can be dangerous, there have even been reports of dealers using small amounts of glass to cheat people out of what they pay for. You can guess what inhaling very fine shards of glass does to your lungs.
All these factors would drive the cost of smuggled weed up extraordinarily high, and make it a dangerous option. It would simply save money and be safer to just buy it from the store. |
Well I was provided False facts about the legality of Mexican Drugs, the New york times lied to me |
I think you just misread. You have a tendency to do that. |
Nein Sir about 2 weeks ago the Headline stated Mexico's legalizes marijuana, is this the first step to a drug free mexico? |
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Screamy
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They might be considering it, but it hasn't happened yet. I hope it does though. |
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