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Jr. Troopa
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:29 pm   Reply with quote

Pac-Man wrote:
Jr. Troopa wrote:
Well if anyone can show me proof with a video, or better yet, how about we just stream it?
Waka Waka Waka...

It's impossible to show that you gave the key away.


When you give and item it shows up in private messages. It would show up in his private messages as "You received this item"? Also, in his outbox or sentbox it would show that he sent it back to me. This is the proof that I'm looking for.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:33 pm   Reply with quote

Jr. Troopa wrote:
Pac-Man wrote:
Jr. Troopa wrote:
Well if anyone can show me proof with a video, or better yet, how about we just stream it?
Waka Waka Waka...

It's impossible to show that you gave the key away.


When you give and item it shows up in private messages. It would show up in his private messages as "You received this item"? Also, in his outbox or sentbox it would show that he sent it back to me. This is the proof that I'm looking for.
Waka Waka Waka...

'his'

as in titos

he isn't going to comply.

he wants the person who gave him the key to be safe, obviously.
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Flavio
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:43 pm   Reply with quote

Pac-Man wrote:
Jr. Troopa wrote:
Well if anyone can show me proof with a video, or better yet, how about we just stream it?
Waka Waka Waka...

It's impossible to show that you gave the key away.
100M GET

Doesn't Francis have a record of item/coin transfers? Or some shit like that?
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Jr. Troopa
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:46 pm   Reply with quote

Flavio wrote:
Pac-Man wrote:
Jr. Troopa wrote:
Well if anyone can show me proof with a video, or better yet, how about we just stream it?
Waka Waka Waka...

It's impossible to show that you gave the key away.
100M GET

Doesn't Francis have a record of item/coin transfers? Or some shit like that?


Actually, I think you're right. Francis, you do have a record don't you? Maybe you can prove this.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:50 pm   Reply with quote

Francis has access to the records of giving/donating/pm history.
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oar
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:52 pm   Reply with quote

Jr. Troopa wrote:
Flavio wrote:
Pac-Man wrote:
Jr. Troopa wrote:
Well if anyone can show me proof with a video, or better yet, how about we just stream it?
Waka Waka Waka...

It's impossible to show that you gave the key away.
100M GET

Doesn't Francis have a record of item/coin transfers? Or some shit like that?


Actually, I think you're right. Francis, you do have a record don't you? Maybe you can prove this.

For the record, though, you don't seem to have a jail key on you. It seems like all the mods got Jail Keys when Francis gave us the Restriction Ray.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:53 pm   Reply with quote

Cherry wrote:
Please. There is no way Tito would magically acquire a Prison Key the MOMENT you decide to go on a stupid bullshit plot whatever the hell that was.

When I was jailed, he stated that "someone told me to". Who ELSE would it be?

And please; against everything you stand for? You were on some kind of adrenaline high and spouting pointless bullshit everywhere. There is absolutely nothing saying you were in the right mind when it happened. Don't cover up for your shit.

Tito doesn't even hack shit.


I agree that Troopa made a dumb decision by starting up a plot without the approval of the rest of the site staff. But I think you really need to cool your jets.

You're forgetting that Troopa is one of the most mature and respectable members here, and cares for the site a hell of alot more than most of us do. He often brings up plenty of interesting ideas that most of us, unfortunately, ignore.

Now, with that said, you're making the right points about his mistake, but you're saying them the wrong way. You're talking to Troopa like he never did anything good for the site, instead of pointing out his flaws in a mature and modly way; you're speaking in an arrogant fashion.

I also don't get why you're so critical of the concept of new site events. Trying to come up with some fun new event is a fresh change to trying to better the site from sitting around and trying to figure out new ways to punish people; in this case, Troopa's heart was in the right place, but he didn't think it through.


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bobz
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:53 pm   Reply with quote

Maiq the Liar wrote:
For the record, though, you don't seem to have a jail key on you. It seems like all the mods got Jail Keys when Francis gave us the Restriction Ray.
Normal members don't have keys. 3:|════׀
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Jr. Troopa
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:54 pm   Reply with quote

Maiq the Liar wrote:
Jr. Troopa wrote:
Flavio wrote:
Pac-Man wrote:
Jr. Troopa wrote:
Well if anyone can show me proof with a video, or better yet, how about we just stream it?
Waka Waka Waka...

It's impossible to show that you gave the key away.
100M GET

Doesn't Francis have a record of item/coin transfers? Or some shit like that?


Actually, I think you're right. Francis, you do have a record don't you? Maybe you can prove this.

For the record, though, you don't seem to have a jail key on you. It seems like all the mods got Jail Keys when Francis gave us the Restriction Ray.


I had a jail key, and a restriction ray. Francis took them away when he reactivated my account, because when I logged on, for the first time after deactivation, they weren't there.
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oar
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 7:57 pm   Reply with quote

bobz wrote:
Maiq the Liar wrote:
For the record, though, you don't seem to have a jail key on you. It seems like all the mods got Jail Keys when Francis gave us the Restriction Ray.
Normal members don't have keys. 3:|════׀


Mod items are still items.
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bobz
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:00 pm   Reply with quote

Maiq the Liar wrote:
bobz wrote:
Maiq the Liar wrote:
For the record, though, you don't seem to have a jail key on you. It seems like all the mods got Jail Keys when Francis gave us the Restriction Ray.
Normal members don't have keys. 3:|════׀


Mod items are still items.
Francis isn't stupid enough to let demodded mods keep their mod items.

We've seen what could happen in the wrong hands. 3:|════׀
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:15 pm   Reply with quote

I never got a jail key when I was a mod...

:<
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oar
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:05 pm   Reply with quote

bobz wrote:
Maiq the Liar wrote:
bobz wrote:
Maiq the Liar wrote:
For the record, though, you don't seem to have a jail key on you. It seems like all the mods got Jail Keys when Francis gave us the Restriction Ray.
Normal members don't have keys. 3:|════׀


Mod items are still items.
Francis isn't stupid enough to let demodded mods keep their mod items.

We've seen what could happen in the wrong hands. 3:|════׀


I mean the "Give" command probably works on Jail Keys.

If not, a possible exploit would be to put it in a container and give it to somebody.

Besides, Har was never a mod.
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Cherry
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:11 pm   Reply with quote

Nanaki wrote:
I also don't get why you're so critical of the concept of new site events. Trying to come up with some fun new event is a fresh change to trying to better the site from sitting around and trying to figure out new ways to punish people; in this case, Troopa's heart was in the right place, but he didn't think it through.
Admin is no longer a unique or cool concept. There is no more blood that can be squeezed from the stone and yet people still squeeze. These so-called "Site Events" are never unique in their concept or their execution, and such people don't accept it. People don't want the same bullshit again and again with a new coat of paint.

We've ran through the overtaking force plot (Giga Lord Bowser, Crazy Cody is on a rampage, Devo and the Void, Mood Swing Moon...), the hacking plot (Devo and the Void), and the versus mode plot (Lord Bowser vs. Bowser)...

With all of these plots already done, it gets monotonous and predictable. THAT'S why people don't like it. Also they're usually planned with very flawed foresight.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:15 pm   Reply with quote

Jr. Troopa wrote:
Well if anyone can show me proof with a video, or better yet, how about we just stream it?
This isn't about absolute proof. This is about proof beyond any reasonable doubt.

And it's not reasonable to say that Hario exploited his way to a Jail Key at the exact time you started your plot, especially since he stated that "someone told me to."

Proof is nothing. Unless you can prove it DIDN'T happen, you have no way to back yourself up.
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