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the pokemon among flowers
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:38 pm   Reply with quote

okay, it's really pulling at my consciousness now - so let's confine all the off-topic complaints to one topic. So please, nobody get mad at anybody in this topic, otherwise we will all be back to square 1 and these split sides will still be waging "war".

First I just want everyone to state an honest opinion WITHOUT blaming anyone. I say this because I feel like a target of people - others have blamed me for the off topic becoming a pervert playground. I'm not the one who started it, simply joined in, and other people did too. It's not 100% my fault, all of us who participated should be sharing the blame.

And it's very obvious that people here have completely different definitions of "spam", "offtopic", "dump", and such. So realize that other people have the exact same right to an opinion, and for at least the first part of this, let's not try and persuade anyone to change their opinions so we can at least reach an agreement.

So, in this thread tell everyone your thoughts and opinions on these questions, and other things that you could cover are welcome too.

1. The current state of Digibutter
2. What Off-Topic should be
3. What Off-Topic currently is
4. What the [m] tags should and shouldn't be used for
5. The state of the topics with [m] tags
6. What spam is, what kinds, etc

I'm going to state my own personal opinions later on, but as for now I don't want to start anything up by someone feeling hurt or blamed or anything.
So, please people, let's just try and talk this out instead of having a flame war. Problems are inevitable, but they are easier to deal with this way.

If any other issues exist, do tell so I can add them to that list. Also, just voice opinions and nothing else for right now; don't point fingers at anyone either for the moment.
so, go?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:41 pm   Reply with quote

Well, the [M] tags have been resolved by Francis. I'm just not too sure about this, there isn't alot of people currently on Digibutter, they're all on vacation.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:43 pm   Reply with quote

Sandslash wrote:
Well, the [M] tags have been resolved by Francis. I'm just not too sure about this, there isn't alot of people currently on Digibutter, they're all on vacation.


Not too sure about what?
And Chaos will be back tomorrow, I think. D:

really, there's a lot of people who don't like off topic, so we need to come to an agreement with them. :<

and also, people still seem to have issues with the [m] tags, and Bowser raised a good point - that the tags weren't really necessary on a PG-13 site if there wasn't going to be any R+ stuff at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:45 pm   Reply with quote

Shaymin wrote:
Sandslash wrote:
Well, the [M] tags have been resolved by Francis. I'm just not too sure about this, there isn't alot of people currently on Digibutter, they're all on vacation.


Not too sure about what?
And Chaos will be back tomorrow, I think. D:

really, there's a lot of people who don't like off topic, so we need to come to an agreement with them. :<


Off topic is too active...way too active...it needs less posts...

p.s. im adding "..." in my post cuz im awesome like that...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:46 pm   Reply with quote

darkzero wrote:

Off topic is too active...way too active...it needs less posts...

p.s. im adding "..." in my post cuz im awesome like that...


dude, answer all the questions plz with your opinion. ;_; not just one?

Seriously. FULL OPINION no matter what you'll think others will say. This thread is serious business, and without everyone's full opinion there will probably be issues in the near future (like days) as opposed to months or something
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:48 pm   Reply with quote

Shaymin wrote:
Sandslash wrote:
Well, the [M] tags have been resolved by Francis. I'm just not too sure about this, there isn't alot of people currently on Digibutter, they're all on vacation.


Not too sure about what?
And Chaos will be back tomorrow, I think. D:

really, there's a lot of people who don't like off topic, so we need to come to an agreement with them. :<


I'm wasn't to sure if discussing this is necessary. I kinda though about it, it is.

I personally don't mind Off Topic myself, and I truly don't care for anybody who leaves just because they hate Off-Topic, but we might as well have too talk this over, people here are taking the spam forum seriously. I wouldn't go over my opinions and thoughts of Off-Topic until I know some other people notice this.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:50 pm   Reply with quote

Shaymin wrote:
darkzero wrote:

Off topic is too active...way too active...it needs less posts...

p.s. im adding "..." in my post cuz im awesome like that...


dude, answer all the questions plz with your opinion. ;_; not just one?

Seriously. FULL OPINION no matter what you'll think others will say. This thread is serious business, and without everyone's full opinion there will probably be issues in the near future (like days) as opposed to months or something


That IS my full opinion...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:51 pm   Reply with quote

darkzero wrote:
Shaymin wrote:
darkzero wrote:

Off topic is too active...way too active...it needs less posts...

p.s. im adding "..." in my post cuz im awesome like that...


dude, answer all the questions plz with your opinion. ;_; not just one?

Seriously. FULL OPINION no matter what you'll think others will say. This thread is serious business, and without everyone's full opinion there will probably be issues in the near future (like days) as opposed to months or something


That IS my full opinion...


You're opinions aren't too strong, pal!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:51 pm   Reply with quote

darkzero wrote:

That IS my full opinion...


On all 6 issues? what about the m-tags and stuff? D:

edit: Sandslash is right. :< just like, fill out 1-6, right next to those numbers.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 3:58 pm   Reply with quote

1. The current state of the site is fine, it's just having normal site troubles

2. Off-topic should be less active, Or there should be a spam forum

3. off-topic is currently, the most visited place on the whole site

4. [m] tags should be for mature things, but at a certain level that can't reach rated-R

5. [m] tags are also the most used things on this forum, and are mostly used for pervertedness

6. Spam should not be acceptable, or There should be a spam forum, that way, off topic will be off-topic, not pervert-[m]-land.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:02 pm   Reply with quote

Well, I might as well go over my opinions now...

1. The current state of Digibutter:It's pretty dead here, even in off-topic. However, not a whole lot of people are here anyways, off-topic has little to nothing to do with the state of digibutter. It's okay, nothing really to be worrying about.

2. What Off-Topic should be:Like the dump, but more restricted. The concept is perfect, but the execution is not existent. We have much more work to do if we want Off-Topic to be what we truly want it to be like.

3. What Off-Topic currently is:Like any spam forum, a few people here are IMPO, pretty immature, and make a huge ruckus over a small thing, thus, they want to leave or they cause flame wars there. Straiten up, people!

4: What the [m] tags should and shouldn't be used for:They should be used for more suggestive subjects, but not for outright pornography.

5. The state of the topics with [m] tags: I think it's not that bad, but quite a few others are going to outright disagree with me.

6. What spam is, what kinds, etc:Spam can range from things that don't have enough content to really be in more special forums to outright randomness. Off-Topic isn't really meant to have things like "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA" and related things, thats why the dump was nuked and was removed.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:05 pm   Reply with quote

1. Digibutter is in a semi-okay state. We have the rare troll and spam coming in on Off-Topic. Many people people, understandably, are leaving.

2. Off-Topic should be a forum for General Discussion topics, but with less seriousness.

3. Off-Topic is a house for YouTube Poops, spam, and the occasional actual discussion.

4. The [M] tag should be used for swearing and sensitive discussion. That's all.

5. The [M] tags are being used VERY little. Mostly to indicate swearing.

6. Spam is single-double word posts, and pointless posts.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:08 pm   Reply with quote

So far it looks like everyone's pretty much in agreement about most things, besides the activity in off-topic. :3 That's good
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:26 pm   Reply with quote

1. Digibutter WAS slowly dying. But it's starting to get it's reputation back... slowly. I still like this site and I'm not leaving it. Plus, everyone will come back from their vacations.

2. Off-Topic should be a forum where you put stuff up like videos you made or whatever (I don't know what else).

3. Off-Topic right now is a spam circus... 'Nuff said. Also, there are a few topics that are completely out of place in there.

4. [M] tags should be used as either "watch out! Bad language ahead" or "Extreme violence". If it's a serious topic and [M] rated, I think that would work too.
What it shouldn't be used for... pointless topics. Some users are still abusing the [M] by putting up topics like "ZOMG *insert something M rated here*" and it ends up being a RickRolled video. That's a no no.

5. [M] is mostly used with topics with swear words in it. I can't remember anything else.

6. Spam is like what Sandslash said. Pointless posts/topics that waste space.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:29 pm   Reply with quote

Franziska von Karma wrote:
1. Digibutter is in a semi-okay state. We have the rare troll and spam coming in on Off-Topic. Many people people, understandably, are leaving.

2. Off-Topic should be a forum for General Discussion topics, but with less seriousness.

3. Off-Topic is a house for YouTube Poops, spam, and the occasional actual discussion.

4. The [M] tag should be used for swearing and sensitive discussion. That's all.

5. The [M] tags are being used VERY little. Mostly to indicate swearing.

6. Spam is single-double word posts, and pointless posts.


I agree with you 100%
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