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TooManyToasters Paper_Waluigi
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Agent of Crime Vampire
Joined: 20 May 2007 Posts: 446
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:49 pm
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Today a girl in my speech class gave a speech on how video games, not just violent video games, but video games in general, caused school shootings and stupidity. Her only basis for this was, as follows:
Quote: | This major university did this study where people who were violent tended to buzz louder and longer when playing games. The study also concluded that females buzz longer. |
During the question and answer period, I asked:
"What did any of that have to do with school shootings?"
Her response:
Quote: | Well, people see shootings in video games, so they want to go kill people when they get to school. |
My rebuttal:
"So by your logic, Scrabble causes school spellings."
Her closing statement:
The moral of this true story? People who think that violent video games are truly harmful tend to be idiots.
Actually, I just wanted to share how my day went with you. I knew you'd never ask otherwise. |
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That rich guy Pure-??? Vampire
Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 9560
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 7:55 pm
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if he succeeds, but exclusively on micro soft, I would actually be pretty happy. as long as the computers keep going. |
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King of Koopas Lord Bowser
Joined: 28 Apr 2007 Posts: 2738
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:02 pm
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Jack Thompson is the ONLY thing I hate more than MARIO! |
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Elite Nerr Francis
Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 6974
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:25 pm
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Then Halo 3 needs to target Jack Thompson... bwahahaha |
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oar Super Maiq the Liar
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 17919
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:28 pm
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Francis wrote: | Then Halo 3 needs to target Jack Thompson... bwahahaha |
M'Aiq agrees entirely. Why, if M'Aiq wasn't a Khajiit, I would go there and...(M'Aiq wishes to save you from some very violent text)...and that would teach him a lesson he wouldn't soon forget. |
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That rich guy Pure-??? Vampire
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:53 pm
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to be totally honest I hate halo. and XBox 360. and ps3. and PSP. but not anything else. just the new non-wii systems. if anyone wants to hear why I hate the PSes, just ask. as for halo and 360, that just blatent reasonless hate. |
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Paper_Koopa
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 22
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:12 pm
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pure-??? wrote: | to be totally honest I hate halo. and XBox 360. and ps3. and PSP. but not anything else. just the new non-wii systems. if anyone wants to hear why I hate the PSes, just ask. as for halo and 360, that just blatent reasonless hate. |
same here. I don't know why I hate Halo, but I do... |
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See? Popple
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 14001
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 9:42 pm
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Who actually cares what he says anymore? Did you know that he cares around a card that says he is officially not insane? He had to take a test, see? |
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Ruki Motomiya Vampire
Joined: 18 May 2007 Posts: 4127
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:23 pm
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pure-??? wrote: | to be totally honest I hate halo. and XBox 360. and ps3. and PSP. but not anything else. just the new non-wii systems. if anyone wants to hear why I hate the PSes, just ask. as for halo and 360, that just blatent reasonless hate. |
I would like to know why you hate PSes(PS2/PS3 is the only system other then the DS and Wii I want). |
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Logic King vg Vampire
Joined: 19 May 2007 Posts: 2032
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 10:25 pm
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Ruki Motomiya wrote: | pure-??? wrote: | to be totally honest I hate halo. and XBox 360. and ps3. and PSP. but not anything else. just the new non-wii systems. if anyone wants to hear why I hate the PSes, just ask. as for halo and 360, that just blatent reasonless hate. |
I would like to know why you hate PSes(PS2/PS3 is the only system other then the DS and Wii I want). |
Yes, explain. I have the same general ideas, but I would like to hear your reasoning. |
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I see what you are doing. Lord Vaati
Joined: 19 May 2007 Posts: 20393
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 11:52 pm
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M'Aiq the Liar wrote: | Francis wrote: | Then Halo 3 needs to target Jack Thompson... bwahahaha |
M'Aiq agrees entirely. Why, if M'Aiq wasn't a Khajiit, I would go there and...(M'Aiq wishes to save you from some very violent text)...and that would teach him a lesson he wouldn't soon forget. | a Khajiit hmmm I'm guessing your a fan of Morrowwind am I correct |
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Current form: Normal Marker Magikoopa Vampire
Joined: 04 May 2007 Posts: 2261
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:57 am
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Thompson is an idiot in my opinion. Killing him would be a bad idea though. If he were to be killed, it might get more idiots to believe what he has said (especially if an avid gamer kills him). And someone who isn't an idiot might take his place.
What we need to do is make sure that people know that he's an idiot. We need gamers that are overly polite to represent us (I'm thinking of you Canadian gamers by the way). We need to find ways to make him seem like the bad guy. We need to insure that people know about the things he doesn't bother to explain (like how a video game manages to teach a kid how to properly fire, reload, and aim a gun).
Heck, there are a few flaws in his argument that GTA was used to train someone in how to use a gun.
1. I'm pretty sure that there is a big difference between being skilled at using a video game controller and using a gun (except for the old light guns that was used with the NES and SNES).
2. Recoil!
3. Real use of a sniper rifle is different than the use of one in most video games. In most video games, the rifle doesn't move around, and thus you just point it at a spot and wait for someone to walk into the crosshair. In real life, the slightest twitch can mean the difference between hitting the target and hitting the guy 10 feet away from him. In real life, it is about trying to desperately hold the gun steady and trying to get the crosshair to intersect the target and firing the rifle at that moment.
I've also noticed that he seems to be talking to the wrong people when he talks about how the game needs to be kept from being sold directly to people that are under 17. When someone buys a gun illegally, do we blame the person who made the gun or do we blame the person who sold the gun?
He has done some good for us gamers. He's given us a new word to call ourselves. Thanks to him, we can proudly refer to ourselves as "pixelantes"! Jack Thompson seemed to hate it when gamers turned his term into a badge of honor. It probably got him even angrier when the biblical quotes that he himself had used were used against him.
If we send him death threats, it'll only fuel his actions more. Civility would make a much better weapon against him than any message of hate against him. I honestly believe that the Flowers for Jack project has done more against him than anything else.
I'm sorry if I failed to organize my thoughts well in this post. |
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Larry Koopa Sam
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 16957
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:29 am
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Agent of Crime wrote: | Today a girl in my speech class gave a speech on how video games, not just violent video games, but video games in general, caused school shootings and stupidity. Her only basis for this was, as follows:
Quote: | This major university did this study where people who were violent tended to buzz louder and longer when playing games. The study also concluded that females buzz longer. |
During the question and answer period, I asked:
"What did any of that have to do with school shootings?"
Her response:
Quote: | Well, people see shootings in video games, so they want to go kill people when they get to school. |
My rebuttal:
"So by your logic, Scrabble causes school spellings."
Her closing statement:
The moral of this true story? People who think that violent video games are truly harmful tend to be idiots.
Actually, I just wanted to share how my day went with you. I knew you'd never ask otherwise. |
... i hate people who think its the video games.. gawd, they need a life -.- |
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MintCream Vampire
Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 367
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Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:55 am
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Agent of Crime wrote: | Today a girl in my speech class gave a speech on how video games, not just violent video games, but video games in general, caused school shootings and stupidity. Her only basis for this was, as follows:
Quote: | This major university did this study where people who were violent tended to buzz louder and longer when playing games. The study also concluded that females buzz longer. |
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What in high Hades does she mean by 'buzzing'? What does that have to do with shootings? And does this mean girls are more likely to conduct shootings? How many girls have done so thus far? |
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