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lolz Shrowser
Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 8814
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:51 pm
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Well, first of all, he only has ONE game and it was extremely sucky. The story, gameplay... Everything about it was awful. He wasn't popular until he was announced for Brawl. Second, he's WAY overpowered. All of his smash attacks get numerous, effectice hits. If that's not enough, let's look at the Angel Ring. When I did "Advent of the Evil King" event on hard, it's the ONLY attack he used. Seriously. Nothing else. If that wasn't enough, he's a normal-weighted character who can FLY. He gets more jumps than Kirby or Charizard. Also, once he gets all the way up there, his B-Up takes him even further! He's got enough height already. It's almost like having two *crag* recoveries which is totally unfair to the other characters. Combined with his strength and "recoveries", I'd conclude that he's the strongest character in the game. He shouldn't have been playable anyway, but they went and made him WAAAY overpowered as well. Why would Sakurai do such a thing? No one will ever know, but personally, I hate it. |
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(No Title) WIRE MAN
Joined: 10 Jan 2008 Posts: 2355
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:56 pm
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He had TWO games.Go check wikipedia yourself and see. |
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lolz Shrowser
Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 8814
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:59 pm
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WIRE MAN wrote: | He had TWO games.Go check wikipedia yourself and see. |
Well, by the looks of it, they both sucked bad. |
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Mister I Almaz
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 19527
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:01 pm
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Pit had two games, though the only point of quality I'll argue with you about them is gameplay. Kid Icarus was inferior to Metroid in all reguards. I hate Metroid's style of adventurous gameplay (I hate the unknown). Therefore, Kid Icarus is one of my most-hated games (except the final level, that was awesome).
Now...Pit's not a rigged character. He's very good and easy to pick up on, but is in no way rigged. By your logic, the most annoying and stupid character in the game SHOULD be Diddy Kong, since his recovery is better than Zelda's (which I think was the previous highest vertical distance recovery), and has insane abilities for vertical and horizontal recovery. AND it can be used repeatedly. Pit's Wings of Icarus get clipped after he's hit. So technically, a weak fireball from Mario could send angel-boy down.
His recovery is an extension of his jumps, in other words, rather than an actual recovery.
In addition, Pit lacks power. I could compare him to slightly more than Meta Knight in this reguard. Pit has a good deal of weight, sure, but it's still less than Mario. And since Mario has medium everything, that still makes Pit a lighter character.
Finally, Pit only really has two KO moves. Yes, I count these different from power (Dedede's running attack is powerful, his forward smash is a KO move). I believe it's his forward tilt and backward aerial, though I could be wrong (I disliked Pit's gameplay, and the character in general). Is this probably better than Meta Knight? Perhaps. Perhaps not, considering what Pit's supossed to be.
In my final conclusion, we can see that Pit is simply a taller, more angelic and projectile-based Meta Knight. Is he high-tier? Sure. But, for all the reasons you've given, Diddy Kong is far more rigged. And I don't think Diddy's that high up the tier list.
Any and every character can be good. Pit's easy for noobs, spammers, and real pros. |
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lolz Shrowser
Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 8814
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:10 pm
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Mister I wrote: | Pit had two games, though the only point of quality I'll argue with you about them is gameplay. Kid Icarus was inferior to Metroid in all reguards. I hate Metroid's style of adventurous gameplay (I hate the unknown). Therefore, Kid Icarus is one of my most-hated games (except the final level, that was awesome).
Now...Pit's not a rigged character. He's very good and easy to pick up on, but is in no way rigged. By your logic, the most annoying and stupid character in the game SHOULD be Diddy Kong, since his recovery is better than Zelda's (which I think was the previous highest vertical distance recovery), and has insane abilities for vertical and horizontal recovery. AND it can be used repeatedly. Pit's Wings of Icarus get clipped after he's hit. So technically, a weak fireball from Mario could send angel-boy down.
His recovery is an extension of his jumps, in other words, rather than an actual recovery.
In addition, Pit lacks power. I could compare him to slightly more than Meta Knight in this reguard. Pit has a good deal of weight, sure, but it's still less than Mario. And since Mario has medium everything, that still makes Pit a lighter character.
Finally, Pit only really has two KO moves. Yes, I count these different from power (Dedede's running attack is powerful, his forward smash is a KO move). I believe it's his forward tilt and backward aerial, though I could be wrong (I disliked Pit's gameplay, and the character in general). Is this probably better than Meta Knight? Perhaps. Perhaps not, considering what Pit's supossed to be.
In my final conclusion, we can see that Pit is simply a taller, more angelic and projectile-based Meta Knight. Is he high-tier? Sure. But, for all the reasons you've given, Diddy Kong is far more rigged. And I don't think Diddy's that high up the tier list.
Any and every character can be good. Pit's easy for noobs, spammers, and real pros. |
Diddy doesn't Have multiple jumps on top of that.
Diddy's does too. Read the Dojo.
It makes no difference. He can still build up so much damage with his Angel Ring and smash attacks to land a huge KO.
Exactly. |
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Mister I Almaz
Joined: 22 Apr 2007 Posts: 19527
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:17 pm
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However, Diddy DOES have a recovery that equates to the entire usage of Wings of Icarus vertically and two of Pit's "wing jumps", which are much shorter than a second jump by, say, Mario, or even a Jigglypuff puff. Therefore, Pit's only a bit higher than Diddy.
The difference with Diddy is that his barrels can do damage, and it's so sudden that an opponent is less likely to counterattack than with the Wings of Icarus.
Pit's also really easy to spike.
And if you want to complain about characters who do so much damage all the sudden with a great finisher, go complain about Meta Knight.
And Pit's good for spammers because they...well, spam. But there's a lot of ways to get around that, since the moves he usually spams are predictable. |
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? Block Fancy Wario
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 13463
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:47 pm
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First of all, Kid Icarus rocked and my opinion is right and yours is wrong kthxbai
Second, none of Pit's attacks are particularly strong. Angel Ring is really only good for reflecting projectiles - it's extremely easy to get out of. As was already mentioned, his recovery can easily be canceled by attacking him with a single weak attack.
In conclusion, if you think Pit is overpowered, it's because you suck. |
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LOL I just lost the game! Tiptron MKII
Joined: 26 May 2007 Posts: 1876
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:49 pm
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Pit's not annoying and he's not overpowered. I just think that he's a character that got into the game just to fill in an extra spot. You know what I mean? |
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THE BIRTHDAY GIRL King Harkinian Burning
Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Posts: 5620
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:13 pm
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How dare you insult one of my mains!!! kthnxbai |
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That rich guy Pure-??? Vampire
Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 9560
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:29 pm
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? Block wrote: | First of all, Kid Icarus rocked and my opinion is right and yours is wrong kthxbai
Second, none of Pit's attacks are particularly strong. Angel Ring is really only good for reflecting projectiles - it's extremely easy to get out of. As was already mentioned, his recovery can easily be canceled by attacking him with a single weak attack.
In conclusion, if you think Pit is overpowered, it's because you suck. |
I got Kid icarus for the VC. it is the sinple worst game I have ever played.
also, pit is annoying, but I don't find him overpowered. |
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ERECTIN' A DICK Miku Hatsune Vampire
Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 13497
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:35 pm
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lol, appearently everyone is over power to you. |
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Boomer (redundancy!) Boomer Vampire
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 810
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:41 pm
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King Harkinian wrote: | How dare you insult one of my mains!!! kthnxbai |
Agreed!
but seriously, SSSS-BLAM, I'll admit he is annoying. both Angel Ring and his bow are easily spammable, but Angel Ring isn't that great anyway (he has the Mirror sheild for reflecting projectiles, and it works better). all his multiple jumps don't actually send him that high, they're much better for horizontal distances. and, as Mr. I said, you can stop his recovery by hitting Pit during Wings of Icarus. |
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lolz Shrowser
Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 8814
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:44 pm
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Petey Piranha wrote: | lol, appearently everyone is over power to you. |
Pit, Meta-Knight, Marth. Yep, 3 is obviously really close to 35. D'OH! I know! Thy both have threes in them! |
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Yoshi Vampire
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 12475
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:49 pm
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Kid Icarus is hard. It only sucks if you're good at it, and if you get to the last level, like Mister I, I think it was said, IS AWESOME. |
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lolz Shrowser
Joined: 16 Jul 2007 Posts: 8814
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Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 6:52 pm
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Glitz Yoshi wrote: | Kid Icarus is hard. It only sucks if you're good at it, and if you get to the last level, like Mister I, I think it was said, IS AWESOME. |
Yeah, I beat it. The last level was just okay, but the rest sucked. |
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