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jacking off Small Sammer Guy
Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 12146
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 11:47 am
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In case anyone has done this yet. If your willing to do this for the challenge thing to get the Blue Alloy trophy, then I have found some ways to do this easier with all characters...well almost. I'm not 100% sure on some like PT or Diddy Kong. But otherwise, heres some tips for each character to complete the 100 man brawl. if you have better tips, then feel free to tell me here. First the obvious thing, the CPU's AI is higher than Melee so obviously they are a bit...smarter and stronger.
Mario I'm sure a lot know this. The Mario Tornado. Simply just take a small jump and use his dair, the Mario Tornado. The last hitbox of this move is always a kill for the team so use it and make sure it hits on the last animation. If things are getting bad then you can always take a full jump and then use dair. Short Version: Mario Tornado, nuff said. Of course, theres his down smash which works wonder. The ledge/up B COULD work too. But using it on the ground works too. Thanks Mama Mr. L.
Donkey Kong Down B, Hand Slap. HOWEVER, this move WON'T always work near the end, like, say the 30's. You are bound to have some damages. So I suggest this: Get under either one of the platform and start down b under there. When theres an alloy on TOP, use your up tilt, that is always kill on whoevers on the top. Otherwise keep hand slapping. Up tilt and down B are his two saving grace in team battles. Use it and never use his laggy moves.
Link This won't work here unlike it did in Melee. Sakurai nerfed his up B, making it weaker. Plus it lags a lot. So I tried to think of some strategies for Link. I found out that taking a full jump and using dair works great, just make sure you DON'T hit the floor, because that lags a lot. His dair can hit multiple, so make sure to do that and you'll suffer no lag. Of course, when things get bad (like your surrounded by a bunch of Alloys) then use up B, it should clear things up a little.
Kirby The fly under the stage works. The up B works as long as your using it on the ledge, think Ike's strategy.
Yoshi Down B lags less than Bowser's down B, so use that. Make sure to use it in the air. Side B works well too when things are getting bad. Both are really good, use whichever fits your play style.
Pikachu Thunders the way to go, just use it on top of a platform. It does lag, but its power should kill them in one hit. His Fair, dair, and bair should work wonder also.
Fox Side B, spam, it kills. Dash works too. If your off the stage, then try to get back with his up B. His side B should work the best IMO.
Peach This one was hard, but now its easy. Just go under the stage like the jigglypuff strategy. She should be able to make it. OR...another good strategy is get on the ledge, drop, and use Up B, then get back on the ledge. Think Ike/Kirby.
Zelda/Sheik I have one for both. For Zelda, get under a platform. Her ftilt or utilt works great for anyone. Down Smash works, up smash lags but works great. Anyone in front gets killed by her forward smash. Another risky strategy is jump, up B and aim down, the last animation of the move causes a small explosion, which kills Alloys. Her Nair works GREAT so use that too! For Sheik, dash is the way to go. Her down smash works great too. Jump/Up B/Aim down could work, but lags a bit more than Zelda.
Samus/Zero Suit Samus Ledge/up B for Samus. Its the only one that worked for me. For ZSS...I...think her up B/side B works. But not guaranteed. It worked for me...but I died thanks to a gang up.
Ice Climbers Side B or Neutral air/bair/dair worked for me. Get stuck and spam their down smash. Its great. Get under a platform and anyone above kill them with the up smash. My favorite is spamming the down smash.
Bowser It...COULD work the same as Yoshi, but his down B lags more than Yoshi's. I guess you can use it when things are getting bad to kill them all at once. His fair is his fastest move so you can spam that. Up B...is weaker. But I guess it can kill sometimes when the Alloy's damage are pretty high.
Pit Side B spam works...but not always. So I'd use the Jiggly strategy, go under stage and let them suicide.
Wario lol Wario Bike. Love it. When his fart is all charged up, use it when things are getting bad. Just don't use it high or you WILL die, like I did. ;-; his up B/ledge combo works a bit to me.
Diddy Kong His dash is pretty useful. His neutral air is okay. But I'm not sure, Diddy is one of the hardest to use here. Please post some better tips if you guys have one for Diddy. Sorry.
Meta Knight Jiggly's under the stage works for Meta Knight. Because I can't think of a good one for MK. His B/side B are useless for me, because they really can't kill. The Up B/ledge should work but its harder for MK.
Lucas His PK Thunder is a kill for the alloys. But it can be risky. His neutral air is the go for me.
Ike The ledge/up B combo works WONDER for Ike. Probably the best for Ike. Of course, spamming it on the ground works. Bair could work, as it is his fastest move.
Pikmin & Olimar His neutral air is great. Of course, he can kill anyone on top with his uair or utilt. Otherwise I dont' know a wonder strategy for Olimar... His down smash could work, but I haven't tried that. Get near an edge and spam his up B works too. Thanks vg for that one.
Pokemon Trainer THIS one is hard. Squirtle could use the up B/ledge strategy. But I'm still not sure on the stamina thing. Does it get weaker as MORE time passes? I don't know myself. The under the stage strategy might not work for Charizard UNLESS you mastered his gliding skills. Glide/up B is a way to go around the stage. Ivysaur...not too sure on him. His up b/uair lags so not sure if that could work. Feel free to add more to this.
King Dedede Up B Up B UP B. 'nuff said. It works GREAT, specially in Cruel Brawl. If things look bad (and it can for anyone) try down smash it out or up B again.
Ness PK Thunder will NOT work for Ness. Dash, neutral air, uair, up/down smash could work. But all those can be a bit hard to get used to and master. Sure you could have better tips than me for Ness.
Marth Ledge/up B again. If you can, side B with the down side B can work. If things look bad, counter.
Luigi Easier than Mario. Down B, easier to control too so you can take out a lot with this move. Down smash if things look bad.
Falco Its the same as Fox, look at Fox. For me at least.
Captain Falcon Down B spam. Up smash or down smash if things are getting ugly, it helped me :/ Ledge/up B takes quite a while, but it works.
Mr. Game and Watch Down Tilt is really strong. Get near a side and use it. Up smash/down smash could work...but his neutral air/fair/bair works great. So I guess dtilt or neutral air are his two best strategy.
Lucario Neutral air is the only one that worked for me. His side B DID help me a few times. I'm not sure on Lucario though.
R.O.B Side B isn't that great for me, so drop it. His down smash is AMAZING. Use it if things are getting bad for you. Sakurai DID say his down B works, it did work for me UNCHARGED so use it if things aren't looking that bad. If his B is all charged up, use it. It works great. Just remember to angle it. Of course theres the go under around the stage for R.O.B. Use it. There are many ways for R.O.B. to handle these guys, so don't think of him as useless. Show some love for him. :3
Ganondorf Down B spam. Except its range is smaller than Captain Falcon. The ledge/up B could work better for Ganondorf. Down smash can work too.
Jigglypuff The Jigglypuff's go under the stage and around so they can kill themself. Feeling brave then use her side B. Worked for me.
Toon Link His down air can work like Link. Up B is useful yet useless at the same time. His neutral air works great. Down Smash works too. So lets review, dair, nair, dsmash.
Wolf Dsmash/Fsmash/Usmash spam. Up B works, but use it like Fox/Falco, get off the stage, get back with up B and it should kill them. Nair can work I guess sometimes.
Snake Dash is good, basically everything is. AAA combo, all three of his tilts, but his dash works the best. Grenades can work sometimes. Otherwise tilts tilts tilts.
Sonic Spindash could take them out eventually. Side B works better for me than Down B...for ME. His uair, fair, nair, and dair works really well. The ledge/up B/Fair worked for me sometimes so try it out.
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The Fiend that Pwns o.o The PWNFiend
Joined: 06 Apr 2008 Posts: 11
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:41 pm
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All I can think of right now is that up B on the ground for DK also works pretty well on the beginning and ending frames, since he has super armor (can't flinch) while doing it at those times. Use it in a jam... good job on the guide though, pretty useful d O.< b |
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jacking off Small Sammer Guy
Joined: 13 May 2007 Posts: 12146
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:10 pm
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The PWNFiend wrote: | All I can think of right now is that up B on the ground for DK also works pretty well on the beginning and ending frames, since he has super armor (can't flinch) while doing it at those times. Use it in a jam... good job on the guide though, pretty useful d O.< b |
the problem is that move has been nerfed from Melee, it would only kill the Alloys when they have high damages. I guess it would work sometimes though...and thanks. |
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Logic King vg Vampire
Joined: 19 May 2007 Posts: 2032
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 4:25 pm
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For Olimar, get on an edge and spam his Up+B. It actually works really well. |
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jacking off Small Sammer Guy
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:17 pm
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vg wrote: | For Olimar, get on an edge and spam his Up+B. It actually works really well. |
thanks. *edits post* |
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Yoshi Vampire
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 12475
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 6:30 pm
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For ness, the yo-yo is probably the way to go. |
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Kaysakado
Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 80
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:01 pm
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You forgot Sonic. |
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jacking off Small Sammer Guy
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:16 pm
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Kaysakado wrote: | You forgot Sonic. |
Shit yes I did. Thanks. I do have tips for him. Glitz Ness' up/down smash are his yo-yos.
UPDATE: Added Snake and Sonic. edited Olimar thanks vg |
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Silver~
Joined: 16 Jan 2008 Posts: 6118
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:21 pm
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For Mario, I found his up b highly effective. |
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jacking off Small Sammer Guy
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:22 pm
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Mama Mr. L wrote: | For Mario, I found his up b highly effective. |
now that you mentioned it, the ledge/up B could work for him. EDIT |
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