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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:29 pm   Reply with quote

Original bandwagon jump. It's not even a poll.

Anyway, my intention is to make us topic where, instead of just randomly voting for stuff under a certain series, we can discuss about how good the specific characters are.

Today's character is Mario.

Below is the schedule. I underlined the days where I'll be extra-strict about reporting flaming and/or bashing. The bolded one, noticeably, will be the one we're at.

1st June - Mario
2nd June - Donkey Kong
3rd June - Link
4th June - Samus Aran
5th June - Kirby
6th June - Fox McCloud
7th June - Pikachu
8th June - Marth
9th June - Mr. Game & Watch
10th June - Luigi
11th June - Diddy Kong
12th June - Zelda and Sheik
13th June - Pit
14th June - Meta Knight
15th June - Falco Lombardi
16th June - Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard and Pokιmon Trainer overall
17th June - Ike
18th June - Solid Snake
19th June - Peach
20th June - Yoshi
21st June - Ganondorf
22nd June - Ice Climbers
23rd June - King Dedede
24th June - Wolf O'Donnel
25th June - Lucario
26th June - Ness
27th June - Sonic
28th June - Bowser
29th June - Wario
30th June - Toon Link
1st July - R.O.B.
2nd July - Captain Olimar and Pikmin
3rd July - Captain Falcon
4th July - Jigglypuff
5th July - Lucas

If I don't appear in any of these days, someone else can make the topic, so as long as they do it right, and if that's the case, be strict about reporting (Or striking if it's a mod) flaming/bashing. Also, I may have to temporarily leave Digibutter someday this month; when I do, I'll be giving someone else the charge of keeping the schedule.

Any corrections, just go ahead and tell me.

So, now, we talk about Mario. What do you think about his moves? Do you think that he'd be worth his spot still if he had half the popularity he has? Do you particularly like his design, or SSE appearance?

I'll be opining after some of you do so.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:43 pm   Reply with quote

Off topic:Underline R.O.B., plx.

On topic:Mario was pulled off well in SSE, in my opinion. The personality wa alittle off, in that he seemed like he was still going to kick Kirby's ass if he ends up losing the first match when normally, he'd get up and go right for the handshake.(To those who say he doesn't have much of one, you aren't looking deep enough.)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:44 pm   Reply with quote

I like characters with strong moves like C. Falcon and Ganondorf.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:46 pm   Reply with quote

Mario, game-wise, manages to pull off his role as a beginner character very well, but with the addition of FLUDD, he's become a little more advanced. That's a good thing of course, as Mario is a surprisingly overlooked character.
His role in the SSE was quite good too. (He should have used the Sky Pop in the Great Invasion though!)

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:52 pm   Reply with quote

Informer wrote:
Off topic:Underline R.O.B., plx.
I thought of that, but I don't think it's all that worth it, as it's far less hate than other characters have. Though I will not hesitate editing the first post if shit goes down.

On topic:

Well, I think that now that Mario has the tornado as the D-Air, he's gone well in the process of making a difference from Luigi. But the new B-Down isn't the best IMO. I mean, sure, you can push people offstage, but it's situational and not all-that-helpful. Sure, you can use it to help recovery, but it's an advanced technique that is too tough to use. Maybe there should be a B-Down from Galaxy?

And yes, I agree with what has been said about his appearance on SSE. Mario was slightly off, but kept his personality well, only I think he'd need to act heroic a bit more.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:53 pm   Reply with quote

Mario's alright. I think he got nerfed a little, though, with the whole FLUDD thing. The Mario Tornado used to be one of my favorite moves in SSBM and it was a little troublesome to learn that they took it out on Brawl. I still end up using him now and then for fun.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 2:56 pm   Reply with quote

Creepy Mario wrote:
Mario's alright. I think he got nerfed a little, though, with the whole FLUDD thing. The Mario Tornado used to be one of my favorite moves in SSBM and it was a little troublesome to learn that they took it out on Brawl. I still end up using him now and then for fun.
Hm. IMO, the Mario Tornado is very effective as a D-Air.

Also, I forgot to mention in the last post: I guess that he's worth his spot in Brawl, and would be even with half or 1/4 his popularity, because he has solid, recognizable moves you always know the effectiveness of.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:03 pm   Reply with quote

I don't really like Mario's look in this game. He looks like he's extremely pissed off at someone all the time - not the cheerful Mario we know and love.

I don't know about his SSE role. He never really did anything aside from fight Primids here and there. XD

Gameplay-wise, I feel that Mario was kind of screwed over by the physics change...not to the extent of some other characters (*coughCaptainFalconcough*), but still a decent amount. His FAir is too slow to meteor smash someone with, and it was a great way to kill enemies in Melee. On the other hand, the rest of his aerials were drastically improved. BAir is a fantastic killing move, and it's actually possible to hit someone with the Mario Tornado now. Before, it was too slow and predictable.

I can't say I'm a big fan of the addition of F.L.U.D.D., though. It's only really helpful against enemies with bad horizontal recovery, and even then it's only usable when the enemy is above the stage.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:05 pm   Reply with quote

? Block wrote:
I don't really like Mario's look in this game. He looks like he's extremely pissed off at someone all the time - not the cheerful Mario we know and love.


This too. His down taunt just doesn't look natural when he's pissed.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:14 pm   Reply with quote

Thye should have changed his B-Down to Spin Attack from Mario Gaaxy, and given him a new nair.

SSE-wise: I like it. I'm surprised Sakurai wasn't all "MahrIo stRtD iT alL, sOw We mAk SsE BoUt hiM! @_e"
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 4:12 pm   Reply with quote

Mario is fun to play as, and his FS is an inferno of terror! I like when in Classic mode the matchup is Mario vs. Luigi!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:42 pm   Reply with quote

Eh I can complain bout FLUDD. its rarely useful. but I do have to admit, It can provide a satisfying kill. preventing Quickdraw and Luigi-bomber Stlye recovers.

His smash attacks are Angle-able ( notably the forward smash). Mario is simply well rounded, good for beginners.

His Smashes are Strong, his normal attacks are decent. his specials are Weak(Ignoring the reflect cape). His final smash is actually his worst feature IMO The Mario Finale though probably one of the coolest looking final smashes Rarely KO'S , Underwhelming. at least its flashy.

But an important Note, Mario has close to no exploitable weaknesses. good for adaptive players as well, Its important if you were going to "main" Mario to master his Reflect Cape, not only for its Reflective properties but for its recovery properties.

Overall The Plumber in Overalls still packs a punch.
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