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Ohh, THAT makes sense! Tyler Vampire
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 11410
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:21 pm
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Brawl completely ruined Lucas's image. It makes him look like a wuss, which he is NOT. Not only that, but they used his kid form, which you only play as for a very small percentage of the game. Why not teen Lucas? Oh yeah, he's supposed to be a Ness clone.
Plus, I'm nearly done with MOTHER3, and he hasn't learned ANY of the moves he has in Brawl.
No PK Thunder. No PK Starstorm. No PK Fire. No PK Magnet. No PK Freeze.
Not even Ness learned PK Starstorm.
It makes me think what the hell Sakurai was thinking. :\ |
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Fat Tuper lovegod703
Joined: 06 May 2008 Posts: 5515
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:26 pm
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They used his kid form to match Ness. |
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How deliciously sexual Emil Vampire
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 1948
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:08 pm
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I really agree with you here. I'm only on Chapter 5, but Lucas doesn't seem at all like a wimp once he hits his teen years.
I think they put in Kumatora's moves because well... What else could they have put in? I'm pretty sure his Up A is PK Love, and that's really the only PK attack he has...
I didn't know that was kid Lucas. He's as tall as Ness, so I just assumed they were both 13. |
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I TROL U Mantis15
Joined: 30 Apr 2007 Posts: 7743
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:34 pm
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Because technically, the main character always learns mostly support PSI and the female learns all of the damage dealing PSI. I don't know why they gave them to Lucas/Ness in SSB. |
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Yoshi Vampire
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 12475
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:58 pm
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Yup. This is why I said I wish he was older in brawl, then Merlink went all paradox nag on me. D: |
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Ohh, THAT makes sense! Tyler Vampire
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 11410
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:04 pm
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Glitz Yoshi wrote: | Yup. This is why I said I wish he was older in brawl, then Merlink went all paradox nag on me. D: | It's enough of a paradox already. MOTHER3 takes place a millenium after MOTHER2. |
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High Priestess Paula Count_Bleck
Joined: 27 Apr 2007 Posts: 29980
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:25 am
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well... It's sakurai dude. I don't think he knows anything about the mother series.
But I think they're models are based on the clay figures. and I think Paula and kumatora would have been much better choices. |
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Sync MALAK
Joined: 01 Aug 2007 Posts: 34747
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 1:01 am
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I actually think it's the fact that not everyone has played every game series used in Brawl (besides Mario). Maya Fey wrote: | and I think Paula and kumatora would have been much better choices. | *points at above* |
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Yoshi Vampire
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 12475
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:06 am
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Ness should atleast have PSI Rockin' omega for his final smash. Not having it sakurai, is epic. Epic FAILURE.
He should also fight with PSI telebort B for an ub B. He runs around in midair, and touching him pwns you if he's still going.
Side B: PSI paralysis: Picture Mewtwo's flash attack from melee
Down B: It wouldn't hurt to keep PSI magnet here, since I can't think of a better move for down B.
His "okay" taunt should be the peace sign pose.
He should also have a PSI healing taunt that can heal him from 1%-10% Like young link in the other game. |
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Lifeless Intellectual Crappy Shifty Luigi Dead
Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 2619
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:35 pm
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Lucas is GAY! I do not like using him and ness. Same in Melee and SSB64, Ness should just be a regular fighter and NOT a magic user. |
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cool Lord Bob Vampire
Joined: 05 May 2007 Posts: 21056
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:39 pm
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Bowser II wrote: | Lucas is GAY! I do not like using him and ness. Same in Melee and SSB64, Ness should just be a regular fighter and NOT a magic user. |
Ness doesn't use magic. He uses PSI. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. |
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woooooo iceball3
Joined: 29 Feb 2008 Posts: 264
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:05 pm
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Lord Bob wrote: | Bowser II wrote: | Lucas is GAY! I do not like using him and ness. Same in Melee and SSB64, Ness should just be a regular fighter and NOT a magic user. |
Ness doesn't use magic. He uses PSI. THEY ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS. |
So true, so true. though i thought only smart people get psi powers. |
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Mandew Manjew
Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 4283
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 5:58 pm
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Sakurai likes them young
Anyways, I think the developers had in mind to keep anyone from being overpowered while at the same time being lazy and save space on the programmings.
Besides PSI Rockin, which is kinda hard to imagine on a sideway third-person view (considering how to aim the attack), and PSI Flash, Ness didn't have anymore offensive PSI.
If you take Ness brute-out of Earthbound and apply directly to the Smash Game, Ness would be kinda overpowered.
As for Lucas, I don't even know if Ness is supposed to be a kid or a teenager.
You also to consider many other inconsistency in the SSB series. Each moves are somewhat derived from the canon (with some exceptions of course), but some are dug up pretty far.
A wonder is that Peach, in SMB2, is the worst character when it comes to picking up vegetables, yet she is the one using this move in brawl.
A move dug up pretty far, it would be the Super Jump Punch, the Egg Roll, the DK Punch (which could come from DKC2).
An inconsistency would be that Ness or Lucas use moves learned by other party members. Another inconsistency is that Squirtle can drown while Charizard and Sonic can swim. |
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CFH Ligador
Joined: 20 Jan 2008 Posts: 5136
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:35 pm
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Mandew wrote: | An inconsistency would be that Ness or Lucas use moves learned by other party members. Another inconsistency is that Squirtle can drown while Charizard and Sonic can swim. | Charizard goes down MUCH faster than any other character when swimming, so technically it doesn't swim. |
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oar Super Maiq the Liar
Joined: 23 May 2007 Posts: 17919
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Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:36 pm
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If you get his FS Trophy, it says "Lucas doesn't use PK Starstorm normally, but Kumatora taught it to him when he learned he was going to appear in Brawl."
Dumbest reason ever. |
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