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Djacwmwfin Joshamuffin Vampire
Joined: 12 Jun 2007 Posts: 3539
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:26 pm
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In 7th block Biology today, I got my scientific innovation juices flowing.
I thought of how, with the celluloid robot technology I talk about sometimes, a new Homo Sapien could be invented. Since human fetuses are grown when only 2 half cells merge, why can't someone re-create those cells with nanotechnology and edit them as to create a Super Homo Sapien embryo. If not creating the cells with organic material from the start, someone could create it with non-organic materials, and have it programmed so it uses organic material to build new ones. Then they could plant the embryo into a surrogate, and then a Super Human could be born. It could be breedable with humans, and have a larger brain or any other feature desired. Sounds like a perfect plan right?
Maybe not. A big part of science is dealing with ethical morals and if it would be beneficial to society. I want your views on this and I also want to know if you think I'm insane for thinking of this. I already know of some things that you might ask, so I listed them below:
Huh? What are you talking about? If you don't understand this, don't comment. What if they took over?!?!?! If they are breedable with humans, then eventually, the whole human race would become more evolved, and would have the new features of the SHS (Super Homo Sapien). You are one *cragged* up High Schooler for thinking about stuff like this. I am well aware of that. However, if you choose to comment like this, nobody will agree with you. There is no backing to why this is a bad idea in that post. I don't need this, I'm already perfect! O rly? Well apparently nobody else is, just look at all the problems in society. Also, you won't turn into a SHS magically if this is done. I don't need anything more than my internets. Like stated above, you won't turn into a SHS magically. This is a bad idea. Why? This is a sin against God! I'm athiest. You have to prove to me why this is a sin, and if God exists. What if it turns into a monster and wreaks havoc?! Obviously, careful testing and researching on the new being will need to be done. Stuff like this needs an enclosed setting in which to research. The scientist and an asisstant or two could raise the being like a normal human child and see how it develops. The technology needed to do things like this would have to be extraordinary. Doing something like this would be no easy or simple task. What if the government disapproved? Gov't permission would be quite a factor. If no gov't permission was availible, everything would have to be done in secret. If and when the new being was to be released, the physical differences would have to be very unnoticeable. Laboratory babies, all of the bad, without the good. No cheesey quotes. kthxbai
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oar Super Maiq the Liar
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:32 pm
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Joshamuffin wrote: | and have a larger brain or any other feature desired. |
You KNOW what some people will want, then. |
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Djacwmwfin Joshamuffin Vampire
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:35 pm
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Sheogorath wrote: | Joshamuffin wrote: | and have a larger brain or any other feature desired. |
You KNOW what some people will want, then. |
Joshamuffin wrote: | you won't turn into a SHS magically. |
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TooManyToasters Paper_Waluigi
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:37 pm
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tl;dr franis ben mi plx |
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Djacwmwfin Joshamuffin Vampire
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:40 pm
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However, it would be possible to use technology like that to change existing humans. |
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augh! Piccolo the Pixl
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:52 pm
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I think I heard someone talk about this before.
It's an interesting idea, but there were some small counters to it that I can't remember.
Lemme see if I can find them. It was a while ago, so I might not be able to |
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Burn them out rawrskey Benned Vampire
Joined: 03 Jun 2007 Posts: 14262
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:52 pm
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My question is:
WHY. THE *crag*. WOULD ANYONE WANT TO DO THIS!?
Humans already exist, in case you haven't noticed... robots don't need to become humans.
It's stupid beyond reason. |
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Djacwmwfin Joshamuffin Vampire
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:55 pm
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Kitsune0012 wrote: | My question is:
WHY. THE *crag*. WOULD ANYONE WANT TO DO THIS!?
Humans already exist, in case you haven't noticed... robots don't need to become humans.
It's stupid beyond reason. |
Why is it stupid? Humans do exist, however, they can be improved. |
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oar Super Maiq the Liar
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:56 pm
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Yeah, lets all become perfect! We'll all be exactly the same with no ideas greater than ourselves. What a world! |
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Djacwmwfin Joshamuffin Vampire
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:57 pm
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Sheogorath wrote: | Yeah, lets all become perfect! We'll all be exactly the same with no ideas greater than ourselves. What a world! |
I never said we had to be the same. And I never said that perfection can be reached. |
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Burn them out rawrskey Benned Vampire
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:08 pm
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Joshamuffin wrote: | Kitsune0012 wrote: | My question is:
WHY. THE *crag*. WOULD ANYONE WANT TO DO THIS!?
Humans already exist, in case you haven't noticed... robots don't need to become humans.
It's stupid beyond reason. |
Why is it stupid? Humans do exist, however, they can be improved. |
Don't you realize that the conscious mind of a human is something that is so very complex. Even the stupidest of hickerbillies has a lot going on in their heads at once.
Sure, you could make "humans" "better"... but that wouldn't really do anything. In case you haven't noticed... Nature knows what it's doing. It's been doing it for years and it's gonna keep doing it. You don't need to get in the way.
Besides, those things aren't human... they're robots, and they aren't real and they aren't natural. There's no need to bring a new species into existence... we have enough problems with a few "rebellious" humans... if we have rebellious robot things made out of a ton of steel, then we have much bigger problems. |
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Logic King vg Vampire
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:24 pm
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One thing I wonder about it is how the SHS's would necessarily "feel". If they had no feeling and were only robots, we might as well make super computers. If we make them with "feelings" there would be conflicts between the normal people and SHS's. There would probably be a higher suicide rate because of this. This in itself becomes a problem. We would have many dead bodies lying around with nothing to get rid of them. If it did succeed, people would use them for war and I don't think people want more war. |
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Burn them out rawrskey Benned Vampire
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:30 pm
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SHS: Super Human Syndrome
Humans are humans... we'd like to be perfect, true... but...
there are so many problems with this. Moral problems, physical problems...
Civilization is only working right now because humans have made compromise upon compromise, and also because no human is strong enough to take out all other humans.
If we have a blood-thirsty, cold-blooded killer with a super-modified brain and a robot body... it doesn't matter if you have the best team of nerrs around... the robot will be hacking THEM, if you know what I mean.
This is stupid, it's something you simply SHOULD NOT DO! |
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He's that guy. Merlink
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:45 pm
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This is unnatural. And to alter the human body and brain like that, you would have to COMPLETELY understand it. Altering the body could induce strange and unwanted hormones. Altering the brain could reduce the capacity or make it incapable of feeling, emotion, sight, sound, smell, individuality, or even learning. And, if the whole capability of thought worked out, any defects would soon be recognized by the 'patient'. Those responsible would be completely liable, unless someone were stupid enough to sign a waiver....
This idea creeps me out a little. It's a little more than plastic surgery. Anyone who submitted to this act would regret it - if they were still capable of emotion and standard human thought. It was a good idea to start, but there are WAY too many things that could go wrong. NO government would submit to this kind of testing, anyway. |
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I see what you are doing. Lord Vaati
Joined: 19 May 2007 Posts: 20393
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Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:56 pm
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intriguing by my standards it seems quite wise. |
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