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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:13 pm   Reply with quote

This is an "advanced technique" that was recently discovered. Allow me to explain it. You know how the C-Stick is set to Smash attacks by default? Change that to Special. You will be using B-Moves from tilting the C-Stick, hence the name "C-Sticking". Now then, how you do it. You jump, and then tilt the C-Stick in the opposite direction you are going, and you should be pushed backwards. Press diagonally for the Up and Down, standard is too difficult to do. Now then, for the characters. Any Specials I did not list had no effect, or in the case of Standard B, I was unable to do.

Mario:
Side+B: Slight movement
Down+B: Increased Recoil
Luigi:
Down+B: Slight Movement, almost unnoticeable

Peach:
Down+B: Possible slight movement. Down+B was not tested.
Bowser:
No effects, but Standard B might have an effect
Link:
Side+B: Noticeable movement
Zelda:
Side+B: Slight Movement, noticeable
Sheik:
Side+B: Slight Movement
Ganondorf+Captain Falcon:
No effect, Paunch not tested
Toon Link:
Same as Link
R.O.B:
Side+B: Very slight movement backwards, forward movement from the attack makes it useless

Ice Climbers:
Side+B: Slight Movement
Down+B: Slight Movement, Noticeable
Pit:
Down+B: ALMOST COMPLETELY UNNOTICEABLE MOVEMENT
Samus:
No effect
Zero Suit Samus:
Up+B: Slight Movement
Side+B: Noticeable Movement
Sonic:
No effect
Snake:
Side+B: Slight Movement, greater than Down+B's
Down+B: Slight Movement
Kirby:
Standard B: Only managed to do this once, Slightly Movement, Noticeable
Side+B: ALMOST COMPLETELY UNNOTICEABLE MOVEMENT
Lucas: Best character to use
Standard B: Slight movement
Side+B: VERY NOTICEABLE, RECOMMENDED FOR USE.
Down+B: Slight Movement
Lucario:
Side+B: VERY NOTICEABLE, SLIGHTLY LESS MOVEMENT THAN THAT OF LUCAS' SIDE+B
Jiggly:
No effect
Ness:
Side+B: Slight Movement

Squirtle:
No effect, B might have increased recoil
Ivysaur:
No effect.
Charizard:
Side+B: Slight Movement
Pikachu:
Down+B: Slight Movement, Noticeable

Im probable missing some, but these are the ones I could remember.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:16 pm   Reply with quote

aw great its discoveries like these that ruins the game for some people, and give huge advantages to others. There goes Sakurai's wish of balancing out the characters.
Well nice find at least.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 1:37 pm   Reply with quote

The Star Fox characters:
No effect
Meta Knight:
Only good for complete change of direction
Dedede:
Side+B: Slight Movement
Olimar:
Down+B: Slight Movement

Anyways, I tried it out outside of Training Mode, and I wasnt very impressed. It didnt help much. I discovered this technique after watching a video of it.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:02 pm   Reply with quote

I'm not too fond of it either, but I'll take what I've learned elsewhere and say that constantly moving back makes you predictable and an easy target. If you see somebody using this technique, I'll suggest simply advancing harder.

Hopefully it doesn't become too much of a problem.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:07 pm   Reply with quote

Video:


I did not make this.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:33 pm   Reply with quote

Awesome glitch. Lets just hope this doesn't become as bad as the wavedash in melee.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 2:56 pm   Reply with quote

Remember, my memory isnt that great, so I just vaguely remembered what happened, and some might be wrong.
Demonstration, Part 1, contains spoilers:


Demonstration, Part 2, contains spoilers:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 3:29 pm   Reply with quote

Neat...I'm going to go try these now.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:02 pm   Reply with quote

Very difficult to pull of a standard, but the C-Stick for your specials, along with B, allows you to be precise in the air, and still be able to use all your st00f.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:06 pm   Reply with quote

Hmm... That's actually not bad, and it's not really cheap either. I think I might try it out.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:25 pm   Reply with quote

Exactly. I find the "bouncing" to be quite fun, but I did manage to dodge an attack once by Wavebouncing. This was sheer luck, as every other time, SMAAAASH!
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:02 pm   Reply with quote

Wave bouncing? Thats the most retarded name I've ever heard xD

Anyways, this is a good glitch.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:30 pm   Reply with quote

I wasn't the one that created the name, and I actually prefer using the C-Stick for Specials rather than using it for Smashes.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:29 pm   Reply with quote

It actually helps. This glitch owns.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2008 10:40 pm   Reply with quote

Damn it, we now have "Advanced techniques" Again, so we can't just plain out play. D:<
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