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Posted by Kotaku Feb 09 2012 08:01 GMT
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#streetfighterxtekken Street Fighter x Tekken is more than just the crossover of two powerhouse fighting game franchises. It's also a fusion of the sensibilities behind the two universes. Similar plot points—lethal government agents, shadowy underworld crime syndicates, etc.—get used in various Street Fighter or Tekken games, but the latter series tends to feel more self-serious than the former. More »

Posted by Joystiq Feb 04 2012 20:30 GMT
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Street Fighter X Tekken's character roster has had more leaks than a Civil War-era submarine; this time, the unannounced character details come courtesy of a move list card deck included in a Taiwanese collector's edition of the game, which happens to include cards for five unannounced characters: M. Bison, Xiaoyu, Akuma, Jin and Ogre.

M. Bison and Xiaoyu were leaked once already, but this is the first we've heard of Akume, Jin or Ogre's inclusion in the game. This collector's edition also includes a 46 track soundtrack and a Yoshinori Ono bobble-head figurine (!!), so we're desperately hoping that the US will get a similar package.

Posted by Joystiq Feb 01 2012 23:45 GMT
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Street Fighter X Tekken has been officially listed by the Entertainment Software Ratings Board (T for Teen, if you're wondering), and some details in the listing may have revealed a few more characters for the game. The description of possibly objectionable content in the game mentions both a character that uses "chainsaws," as well as the fact that "one wobbly character uses 'drunken' fighting moves."

Neither of those descriptions matches any of the announced characters thus far, and fans have jumped to the conclusion that Tekken's Alisa Bosconovitch (who wields chainsaw arms) and drunken fighter Lei Wulong may be making an appearance in the crossover. It certainly seems possible, and this wouldn't be the first time ESRB has mentioned information in its warnings that was supposed to be secret. With the game due out next month, we'll know the truth before long.

Posted by IGN Feb 01 2012 14:58 GMT
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Since its unveiling, Street Fighter X Tekken's gem system has drawn the ire of devout fight-fans who have decried its inclusion as an unnecessary gimmick that can only damage the game's delicate balance and a sign that the series has at last sold its soul in order to appeal to the masses...

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Posted by Joystiq Jan 28 2012 01:00 GMT
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We're going to start your weekend off the right way: with Yoshinori Ono phonetically reciting Raul Julia's iconic lines from Street Fighter: The Movie. As good as you think this is going to be, we promise it's better.

Posted by IGN Jan 27 2012 16:18 GMT
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Yoshi Ono is a man as enthusiastic about his signature Street Fighter franchise as he is protective of it, but when the opportunity came to fuse together two of the fighting world's heavy-hitters to create Street Fighter X Tekken, he had few reservations...

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Posted by Kotaku Jan 27 2012 06:30 GMT
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#streetfighter We've known for a while that Kuro and Toro, the Sony cat mascots, would find their way into Street Fighter X Tekken. Also, Cole McGrath from inFamous. The inclusion of classic (i.e. shitty) box art Mega Man and Pac-Man also weren't much of a mystery, but their appearance is confirmed in this video, along with the full terms of their inclusion in the Capcom/Namco fighting team-up. More »

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Posted by Giant Bomb Jan 27 2012 02:07 GMT
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A portly Blue Bomber joins Pac-Man and some other weirdos in Street Fighter X Tekken on Sony systems.

Posted by IGN Jan 27 2012 01:53 GMT
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Capcom has confirmed two special guests coming to the PS3 and Vita versions of their upcoming fighting crossover, Street Fighter X Tekken. Exclusively on the Sony platform versions of the game, players will have access to Capcom legend Mega Man and Namco's perennial icon, Pac-Man, in the game's fighting roster...

Posted by Joystiq Jan 25 2012 22:20 GMT
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Like the game that shares half its name, Street Fighter X Tekken will receive a free post-launch update aimed at the tournament crowd. Capcom hopes this patch will alleviate the concerns around the controversial gem system. In Street Fighter IV, it was a free update that added replays and other matchmaking features, but the exact nature of the free DLC in Street Fighter X Tekken is still mostly unknown.

"A lot of players were saying, 'I have to do button checks. Do I have to do a gem check now before a match?' With regards to that we plan to release a free post-launch tournament support mode," producer Yoshinori Ono told Eurogamer. "Hopefully from that we'll get feedback from the community, and then we'll have a better direction of exactly what we should do with this mode." Just so we're clear: The free mode will be released, and then based on how the mode is received, the mode will be changed? Crystal.

Ono also says that players shouldn't expect DLC gems at launch. Instead, Capcom is adopting a wait-and-see approach, gauging community reaction before plotting its next move. "In terms of DLC gems, we don't have any set plans on selling gems like this or like that," Ono said. "We're waiting to see what the user reaction is first, because we think a lot of users still don't understand the gem system completely. They're not power-up items. That's not how we see them. We put gems into the game which are default. As long as you have these default ones you'll be fine. If you want to get more gems down the road from the pre-order bonuses, you can definitely do that, but it doesn't make you stronger, it doesn't make you a better player, it doesn't mean you'll have an advantage."

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Posted by Giant Bomb Jan 24 2012 14:00 GMT
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Brad and Jeff discuss whether two fireballs are superior to no fireballs.

Posted by Joystiq Jan 24 2012 00:30 GMT
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While the PlayStation 3 and Vita versions of Street Fighter X Tekken are seemingly jam-packed with platform-exclusive characters, it looks like the Xbox version will be stuck with the original roster, reports Xbox 360 Achievements. Street Fighter guru Yoshinori Ono recently told the site that while Capcom was "in discussions" with Microsoft regarding the possibility of special characters, "we weren't able to decide on a character because of differences in timing and things like that."

Had a deal been reached, Ono said he would have liked to include either Marcus Fenix from Gears of War or Master Chief from the Halo series. Personally, our vote would have gone to "banana guy" from Kinect Sports.


Posted by Joystiq Jan 20 2012 22:00 GMT
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I remember the days of sitting in my buddy's room, losing repeatedly to his Vega as my Dhalsim flailed in front of pixelated, braying elephants. With every loss came the time to give up the controller for the next player in line. Depending on how many people were over, a sort of cheering section would develop. Fueled by Dr. Pepper and bags of potato chips, these impromptu parties are memories that I'm sure I share with many gaming folks.

Street Fighter x Tekken is doing its best to recreate those moments. We already know it's bringing together two of the biggest fighting game franchises on the market, thus creating a huge, varied cast. The Tekken characters have been given the Street Fighter IV treatment, creating a stylized, almost cartoonish look. Their new animations are just as stylized. They're clearly ready to party.

Posted by Joystiq Jan 20 2012 22:00 GMT
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I remember the days of sitting in my buddy's room, losing repeatedly to his Vega as my Dhalsim flailed in front of pixelated braying elephants. With every loss came the time to give up the controller for the next player in line. Depending on how many people were over, a sort of cheering section would develop. Fueled by Dr. Pepper and bags of potato chips, these impromptu parties are memories that I'm sure I share with many gaming folks.

Street Fighter x Tekken is doing its best to recreate those moments. We all already know that it's bringing together two of the biggest fighting game series on the market, thus creating a huge, varied cast. The Tekken characters have been given the Street Fighter IV treatment, thus creating a stylized, almost cartoony look. Their new animations are just as stylized. They're clearly ready to party.

Posted by Joystiq Jan 11 2012 04:59 GMT
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Mad Catz's Street Fighter X Tekken FightSticks have changed since we last saw them. Not only has the company abandoned the red-and-white colorway, there are now more sticks in the line.

The now-black FightStick Pro is the next evolution of the Tournament Edition stick, with Sanwa parts and internal cable storage. The Arcade FightStick VS. Edition seems to be similar in design, but two of them can be connected with an optional attachment to create a continuous arcade machine-style panel. And the new FightPad SD is 15% smaller than previous FightPads, "inspired by the gaming preferences of legendary Street Fighter producer Yoshinori Ono."

No prices were given for any of these new accessories, but Mad Catz did offer the expected release window: concurrent with the game's March 6 debut.

Posted by Kotaku Jan 05 2012 03:30 GMT
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#streetfighter Fighting games thrive on competition. And trash talk. Especially trash talk. For fans of video game brawling, the biggest—yet most respectful—competition is the annual EVO series, which brings fight-stick masters from around the world to fireball their way to ultimate supremacy. More »

Posted by Kotaku Jan 02 2012 09:30 GMT
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#streetfighter This screenshot, posted on Street Fighter x Tekken's Xbox Marketplace website, accidentally (?) reveals two new characters for the crossover title. More »

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Posted by Kotaku Dec 02 2011 14:00 GMT
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#streetfighter So, fighting game fans everywhere know that Namco and Capcom will be pitting their marquee martial arts franchises against each other. Each company's making one game and Capcom's first out the gate with Street Fighter x Tekken. This new video shows how the Street Fighter publisher will be implementing the recurring characters from the King of Iron Fist tournament in the crossover title. And who better to comment on the feel of the Tekken guys in SFxT than competitive player Maximillian? No one, I say. More »

Posted by Joystiq Nov 19 2011 00:45 GMT
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It looks as though Street Fighter X Tekken will be mixing up more than Capcom and Namco fighters. According to Capcom-Unity, the game will be swapping costumes between the two franchises as well. Capcom has posted many images of the crossover clothing, and you may peruse them if you wish, but we'd say this shot of Kuma dressed as R. Mika adequately expresses the situation.

Posted by Joystiq Nov 12 2011 19:30 GMT
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We recommend filing this one under "Things to take with a grain of salt" in your PR filing cabinet, but Capcom veteran and long-time Street Fighter producer Yoshinori Ono has told Gematsu that there will be no boxed versions of any future Street Fighter X Tekken updates: "I would say that you don't really need to worry about a new version of the game coming out. If we choose to update the game, it will be done in the same fashion as Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition."

"The same fashion," as you'll recall, involves releasing an updated version of the game as DLC rather than at retail, and for a discounted price. It sounds great, and we certainly hope Capcom goes that route from now on, but Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3's existence isn't the most reassuring thing.

Ono also said that Street Fighter X Tekken will make use of brand-new netcode, rather than the code used in SSF4:AE or UMvC3. He didn't go into specifics as to what differences or improvements they're hoping to make, but decreasing latency and improving match-up algorithms usually take front and center when improving netcode.

We're optimistic that Ono's words will ring true, but we also know that we can't always get what we want.

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Posted by Giant Bomb Nov 02 2011 14:00 GMT
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Capcom seems to be trapped in a recursive nightmare of late, a Groundhog Day scenario that nobody at the company can quite to figure out how to break out of. Most every time Capcom makes some significant announcement about one of it's products, the fires of the Internet's rage begin to burn anew. It doesn't matter if it's definitively bad news or not--as soon as the press release, video, or tweet goes out, someone finds something terribly wrong with the situation, and the vitriolic comments start flowing. No matter what the product, no matter what the situation, Capcom just can't seem to get the fans on its side.

Take the most recent example, pertaining to the company's 2012 fighter Street Fighter x Tekken. This is a game that fans have been excited about for a while, and it's easy to see why. Though it appears to be approaching the genre with a simplified structure, at least compared with the last couple of entries in the Street Fighter franchise, the action is nonetheless extremely competitive, fast, and thrilling, and not in that dumbed-down Marvel vs. Capcom 3 way, either. For people who found the high level play of Super Street Fighter IV a bit too much to handle, it appeared that a game perhaps geared toward them was on the way. And on the other side, the fighting game super fans looked excited for a new Capcom fighter to pick apart and analyze ad nauseum for the sake of potential tournament play.

Then New York Comic-Con happened.

At NYCC 2011, Street Fighter series producer Yoshinori Ono and Capcom community manager Seth Killian were on hand to demonstrate the latest announced feature of Street Fighter x Tekken: gems. Essentially assignable power-ups, gems are context-sensitive boosts that can be activated during a fight provided certain conditions are met. One example might be that during a fight, an attack boosting gem will only be activated if a fighter hits two special attacks successfully. There are gems in categories of defense, attack, speed, cross-gauge, and assist. Apart from the main categories, there are apparently a whole host of sub-categories that further make the whole situation altogether confusing. How confusing is it? Watch this video of Ono and Killian demonstrating the system for the first time, and see how well you can suss it out.

To a seasoned fighting game vet, maybe that description makes a good amount of sense to you. Me personally? I went boss-eyed about halfway through.

What is immediately decipherable is the reaction to this new gem system. To say it's been mixed would be akin to calling the assassination of the Archduke Ferdinand a "problematic situation." Debate has been heated in the weeks since the NYCC announcement, with more than a good chunk of that debate falling on the side of those who believe the gem system is a game-busting decision. Much of the criticism seems especially directed at Ono's comment that this new system is designed to bridge the gap between the hardcore and the casual players, perhaps inferring that a newer player could somehow purchase techniques they'd otherwise never manage to pull off.

Fan reaction since the NYCC unveiling of the gem system has been passionate on both sides.

Making matters more complicated, several packs of gems will be released as retailer-exclusive pre-order bonuses, or as exclusives with the Special Edition release of the game. Others may be released as DLC, causing some to accuse Capcom of creating the system as a ploy to force players to pay their way to victory.

Normally I don't make it a habit of reporting on random Internet rage, because it's random Internet rage, and generally, it's best left to its own devices to suss itself out. However, I was struck yesterday when Killian came out and gave an interview to Gamasutra yesterday, specifically in an attempt to quell the rage regarding this new system.

On the subject of game balancing:

"I don't think there's any combination of gems which will help a weak player beat someone who's much stronger than them," he says. Auto-block has, in particular, "sent people into a tizzy," says Killian, "because it's like, can't you just block everything? Well, yes, but it requires meter from your bar."

In other words, the gems have activation conditions. A Boost Gem might require being hit a certain number of times to activate. An Assist Gem will "almost always" be active only as long as you have energy in your meter, which you must build up by fighting.

And on the money issue:

"There's also worry about this guy [that] has more money and buys the special edition -- will he have an advantage over me?" The answer, says Killian, is no. "The gems, in the way we've approached them, are balanced against each other."

"If one gem has a bigger damage bonus, it has harder activation conditions."

It's a completely reasonable explanation that nonetheless hasn't appeared to do much to quell many of the fears of the players. In part, it's because of this next comment on the status of the gems as DLC and pre-order bonuses exclusive to certain retailers.

"At this point we're still sort of figuring that stuff out," says Killian. "The game comes with some gems, some of them will be available as preorder bonuses and things like that." Some may be available packaged with DLC, as well.

That reads like the half-answer of a man generally unsure of things, not necessarily the kind of messaging one might want to try to get across to sooth a searing fanbase.

The deep seated anger over the cancellation of Mega Man Legends 3 continues to burn, with fans still trying to get the project restarted.

Then again, if Killian sounds weary, he's got good reason. This is hardly the first Capcom fire he's had to put out in the last couple of years. Whether it's questions of expansions going to disc instead of DLC (Super Street Fighter IV or Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3--pick your poison), issues surrounding some of Capcom's more questionable DLC practices, or the straight up PR disaster that was the cancellation of Mega Man Legends 3 for the 3DS, Killian and everyone involved with Capcom's community management has essentially been under constant fire. By this point, you'd half expect that everyone over there hides under their desk before clicking "send" on a press release.

Think I'm being melodramatic? Let me put it this way: during San Diego Comic-Con this year, just a short week after the announcement of Mega Man Legends 3's cancellation, a rumor went around the Internet that a fan had walked up and punched Killian in the face. Absurd as that sounds, my Twitter feed was clogged with retweets and commentary on what could have sparked such an attack. Of course it turned out to be a total lie, but because of the animosity drummed up prior to the show, people easily believed it was true.

As with most problems, the issue at hand is likely a good bit more complicated than pure blame on the publisher itself, nor is it easily dismissable as typical Internet rabble rousing. Capcom fans, perhaps above the vast majority of other publishers, tend to be an extremely passionate lot. One reason for that likely stems from the fact that Capcom tends to put out titles in more niche-oriented genres. Fighting game fans are often up in arms about something, so it's of little surprise that something as potentially game-changing as this gem system has upset them. Anything that fundamentally changes the field of competitive play is typically scrutinized, perhaps often beyond reason.

Another thing that makes Capcom unique is its sense of community. Every publisher and developer has a community manager these days, but few video game communities are cultivated with such passion and fervor as with Capcom titles. Killian's work on behalf of the company's fighting game franchises borders on obsession at times, and the amount of community outreach the makers of Mega Man Legends 3 did before its unfortunate demise was pretty much unheard of. Games like Call of Duty and World of Warcraft have impassioned fanbases, but there is usually a sense of distance there that enforces the notion that these games are at the whim of the developer, not the fans. With Capcom, it's almost the opposite. You talk to anyone involved in the early development forums who saw Mega Man Legends 3 get flushed down the crapper and go swirly, and they'll talk about that game as if it were their own. Even now, months later, MML3 fans haven't quite gotten over that whole situation--a fact probably not helped by the constant reminders by departed series creator Keiji Inafune that he would really like Capcom to keep the series alive.

It is, in a way, a problem of Capcom's own making. By engaging the community with such regularity and intensity, the response back to them becomes amplified by several orders of magnitude. It's a classic damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.

But back to Street Fighter x Tekken for a moment; it's worth noting that not everyone sees this addition of gems as a total disaster, or at least not the one the loudest online posters seem to believe it is. Plenty of players seem intrigued by the possibilities of what gems could be in the context of the game. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Killian himself seemed legitimately excited by the possibilities inherent to the system:

"Ultimately, this is one of those things, as a concept, that we were talking about maybe two or three years ago, and I was excited by it. And when we got more into the implementation, I was like, 'I dunno about this.' And then once we got hands on with the actual systems, and it tickled me with what I call the 'nerd feather' of theory fighting and stuff, where I started to see the possibilities, it became instantly exciting," Killian said.

Some agree, though a subset of that group sees potential for another problem, one that's actually the polar opposite of the most popular topic of discussion.

Noted friend of Whiskey and current TwitchTV community manager Jared Rea remarked to me yesterday during an IM conversation that while the intent may be to try and give newer players a new route to accessibility, the likelihood of the converse happening is far more likely.

"The problem with systems like Gems in Street Fighter x Tekken is that they tend to achieve the opposite affects that designers are seeking," he said, "As they tend to overly complicate the process of punching another dude in the face. While it's not a genuine comeback mechanic, we've seen this situation before with Ultra Combos (Street Fighter IV) and X-Factor (Marvel vs Capcom 3), where a new gameplay system is introduced with the intent of making the game more accessible to newer or lesser skilled players, but really all it does is reset the gap on a larger scale and the rich tend to get richer."

Occupy Wall Street metaphor aside, he does seem to have a point.

Whether the rage over gems proves to be unfounded or justified remains to be seen, but the unpleasant cloud of this fan reaction isn't likely to dissipate any time soon.

"Gameplay mechanics like Gems are a lot like giving a civilian a sniper rifle," he added. "Yeah, they might shoot someone's eye out but they lack the tools to maximize its potential. Put it in the hand of a trained soldier, however, and the damage that weapon can inflict is far more significant. So while you can argue that a Gem like auto-block or some sort of massive power buff may make things easier for a new player to mount a convincing offensive; just imagine when you give those same tools to the likes of Justin Wong or Daigo Umehara."

Whatever the intent, it's safe to say that Capcom has a long way to go toward convincing would-be Street Fighter x Tekken players about the value of the gem system, especially among the competitive fighting game scene, where tournament directors are already grumbling that they may have to out-and-out ban gems from tournament play, depending on how accessible they are to everyone. Most tournaments tend to ban DLC anyway, but this is a bit of a different case.

Similarly, it seems like Capcom is a long way from where it was a few years ago, riding the wave of good feelings following the release of the original Street Fighter IV. There was a time when the company seemingly could do no wrong. Nowadays? If the vocal portions of the fanbase are to be believed, it appears wrong is all they can do. It's a PR problem that Killian and crew are going to have to tackle head-on; otherwise, this infernal roundelay of negativity they keep finding themselves in will just keep repeating itself, over and over and over...


Posted by IGN Oct 31 2011 18:07 GMT
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Carrying on a fine tradition that has seen the likes of Frank West in the throes of hand-to-hand combat against Spider-Man and other Marvel characters, Street Fighter x Tekken is the latest crossover title from Capcom. The game blends elements from the two games with aplomb, creating an experience that will be immediately comfortable to fans of the Street Fighter series, while adding in enough changes from the Tekken universe to make for a wholly unique fighting game...

Posted by Joystiq Oct 26 2011 06:00 GMT
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In a Capcom developer interview, Street Fighter X Tekken producer Yoshinori Ono said that he isn't interested in checking up on Namco's work on the collaborative project -- and they aren't checking up on his. "Basically, there's no point in developing a game separately if you're constantly getting in each person's way," Ono said.

"For example, if we checked the work Namco had done on Ryu, we definitely want to tweak things ourselves. The same is true for Namco. There's no point in mutually checking each other's work, for it would diminish the individuality of each party. It has to be 'Capcom does Tekken' and Namco does Street Fighter.'"

Ono went on to say that the cross-company project is meant to "build a foundation for the next ten years of fighting games" by inspiring these two major players to make their best work.

Posted by Joystiq Oct 16 2011 15:30 GMT
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You caught an early glimpse of Street Fighter X Tekken's radical new Gem system yesterday, but is your knowledge of the rest of the game's mechanics up to snuff? Do you know what a Switch Cancel is? What about a Cross Assault? Are you even paying attention, Grasshopper? Sweep the leg!

Posted by IGN Oct 15 2011 18:17 GMT
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The most raucous panel I attended at this year's New York Comic Con was -- by far -- the one for Capcom's upcoming crossover title Street Fighter x Tekken. The place was packed. Every seat was filled, people were standing up leaning against walls, and some were even occupying the aisles. And all of the excitement was for good reason. Not only was Capcom's popular Seth Killian on hand, but so too was Yoshinori Ono, Street Fighter x Tekken's producer...

Posted by Joystiq Oct 15 2011 05:25 GMT
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At this evening's Street Fighter X Tekken presentation at New York Comic Con, Capcom's Seth Killian took to an arcade stick to demonstrate the upcoming game's brand new "Gem System." Then game director Yoshinori Ono called it a mix of Street Fighter with Magic the Gathering. Seriously!

Posted by Kotaku Oct 15 2011 01:40 GMT
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#streetfighter Fighting games have traditionally been one arena of player-vs-player engagement where pyre skill wins the day. Sure, characters like Street Fighter's Dhalsim throw off the balance with his long reach, but generally the genre's big titles are tuned to the point where reflexes and training can equal things out. More »

Posted by Joystiq Oct 15 2011 00:19 GMT
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Everyone's favorite pot-bellied pugilist is heading to Street Fighter X Tekken, as revealed by Capcom producer Yoshinori Ono during a panel tonight at the New York Comic Con (and teased just last month). Despite being comically overweight and rocking an extra long rat tail, the rotund reveal was met with mixed reaction from a raucous crowd of hardcore Street Fighter players. The ever jubilant Yoshinori Ono, however, was all smiles, happily noting that plenty more character reveals are on the way.

Posted by IGN Oct 14 2011 22:28 GMT
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At today's New York Comin Con panel for Street Fighter x Tekken, a lot was revealed, including full details about the new Gem System, as well as plenty of other interesting details. But there were two points in particular that are bound to excite those eagerly-awaiting this game...

Posted by Joystiq Oct 14 2011 23:23 GMT
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Street Fighter X Tekken will release March 6, 2012 in North America and March 9 in Europe on PS3 and Xbox 360, and is still scheduled to launch alongside the PS Vita whenever that piece drops. To tide its intrepid fighters over, Super Street Fighter 4: Arcade Edition is getting a free update Dec. 13, titled Version 2012. That's what we call a K.O., people.