NERR 3.0 PRE-PLANNING THREAD
Posted by Gold Prognosticus Jul 16 2012 16:13 GMT in Nerr 3.0
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Before we can actually make this thing, we need to decide exactly what we want from it and how. This means compiling a list of features people want from the new system, as well as when and where those features should be implemented. This includes:

  • What should be conserved from the current system?
  • What should not be conserved?
  • What new features should be added?
  • What should the layout of the system be like (e.g. should it look like the existing layout, or should it be closer to the board-based style of Old Digi)?

Once we've sorted out these questions, then we can move on to actually making something that doesn't completely suck. Additionally, I need people to list what they are able to help with (code, graphics, management etc.) so I know who can do what once we start building the system.


Replies:

My plan is to make the site more cbox-like. There will be just one simple text box.
By default, your post is a reply to the current topic (whatever the last person posted) unless you specify to start a new topic. If you only care about one specific topic, you can open the thread in a new window or pop-up.
This would also allow for topics to have sub-topics.
Links are auto-embeded (images, videos, etc)
Reply by Francis Jul 16 2012 18:51 GMT
Closest I can come to visualising that is something akin to Reddit.
Reply by Gold Prognosticus Jul 16 2012 19:05 GMT
More like Twitter, where each post can be replied to (but the reply is also a stand-alone post). and it all can be presented as one stream.
Reply by Francis Jul 16 2012 19:22 GMT
implement flamingos
Reply by MM Jul 17 2012 00:03 GMT
BATTLE/SHOP SYSTEM
CMON IT WAS FUN ;_;
Reply by Fortran Jul 17 2012 00:08 GMT
disguise kit
hot times
Reply by Super-Claus Jul 17 2012 00:17 GMT
PLEASE please dont make it like twitter where you have a character limit
also I think you should rethink auto-embedding links, what if someone is linking a web page with an article on it? it sure would cause lag if you just embed the whole page. you should have a feature that asks the user if they want to embed their link as an image, video, or to not embed their link. people will prolly *crag* with this but at least it'll prevent people actually not *crag*ing around with breaking the layout from accidentally breaking the layout.
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 00:56 GMT
also dont make this site look like reddit i dont want to be associated with that
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 00:56 GMT
also please dont entirely look over me as an option for doing graphics for whatever new layout you guys are doing, i may only have a high school diploma atm and not a master of art yet but i know a few programs pretty well and i used to make website layouts when i was younger so i may be able to apply what i can do pretty well. i'm not saying i'm the only option for art i just don't want it to look bad because somebody thought they had to do everything on their own. nobody even has to pay me, you guys are my friends i'd be willing to do a favor for all of you
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 01:01 GMT
i think you should also allow for avatar uploads, drawing them is fun and all but some people may not want to put in the effort or want a pixely avatar but of course you can still leave it up for an option for those who want to draw their avatar. of course there will be the inevitable avatar of porn with tons of dicks on it (meow will probably do that one point) but its not like you can prevent dicks with the drawing thing either
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 01:04 GMT
also kotaku and whatever other gaming site feed that posts ponies should be removed
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 01:05 GMT
i dont think we should go back to the old phpbb forum layout though that is no, nobody wants to browse a forum that looks like it came from 2005 except people who have a bad case of nostalgia and anger at new things
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 01:06 GMT
people would probably enjoy the items/shops thing being brought back even though most of us are adults, prolly would ignite some activity since it would give people things to do other than be idiots
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 01:08 GMT
i think it should also be made easier to add games to that list of what you own/want/whatever, there should be a drop down list of all the games on this site so you don't have to tediously search for every single game you want or own (some of us(probably a lot of us) own a lot of games anyway)
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 01:10 GMT
i think we should keep most of the aspects of the current layout (functionality wise not graphically) like how all the newest posts are on the front page. wouldnt want to go back to having to click multiple things to see the new posts. cbox should stay just for old times sake and cuz its an easy chat to use especially when you dont feel like posting in any topics and just want to have miscellaneous chat but not have to go to a new page to do it either
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 01:13 GMT
there should also be account linking for stuff like steam and whatever else you guys want to add, maybe you could throw email on there for the heck of it. you could allow any amount of links to be put on someone's profile page as long as theyre all unique an actually link to real profiles/things and not just porn or viruses
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 01:19 GMT
bring back the store and the battle system.
Reply by Grievous Jul 17 2012 01:24 GMT

nas I want you to copy paste all of those into one post and delete the rest, so that it seems a little less obnoxious

also do everything nas said not to

also don't do account linking thats just *crag*ing stupid we aren't trying to make digi the new google where it connects into *crag*ing everything, if anything that would just make things far more complicated than they need to be. Also to link accounts like that you realize francis would have to have access to the account databases of those indiviual serivice providers correct nas?

Reply by Super-Claus Jul 17 2012 01:33 GMT
no i will use topics like a chatroom and you will like it
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 01:35 GMT
bring back signatures so I can put that nastasia king of digibutter picture after every post with extreme ease
Reply by Super-Claus Jul 17 2012 03:37 GMT
dim i didnt mean like actually linking it
I meant just putting a link there and being able to describe it
thats how it was done before all this fancy pants linking
also signatures are the WORST please no signatures add unnecessary things to pages and make for unnessecary repetition of images and text
Reply by Nastasia Jul 17 2012 04:04 GMT

*crag* yo couch nigga I do what I want

 

 

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Reply by Super-Claus Jul 17 2012 04:22 GMT

Okay I'm keeping this signature set-up from now on

 

 

Reply by Super-Claus Jul 17 2012 04:36 GMT
Okay, I think I have a decent grasp of how to structure this thing. I'm gonna go do a few plans on paper and get back to you shortly, then we should be able to start construction. Feel free to continue suggesting things as I do so. Nas, you are quite welcome to provide imagework - if I can attempt to program this without ever having completed a major PHP project (I've done a couple of minor things so I know the language, but not much on this scale) then you should be fine.
Reply by Gold Prognosticus Jul 17 2012 08:55 GMT

Okay so this is a general idea of how the typ domination would work for item combining when deciding what type the item will be. I would suggest making it so only two items can be combined at a time so that way you don't have to form too complex of a domination circle. I made it five types because that makes it very simple to have across tree combinations. now if you combine a Mana type with a Trap type the result item will fall into the mana type catagory. now I know you're thinking "what if we comebine something from the other side?". well thats the great thing about this tree, whatever the closest domnating object is will result in the type determination. For example, you combine an Attack type item and a Mana type item, well since Attack beats Health and Health beats Mana, the object becomes an attack type. Mana on the other hand is further away from beating Attack on the flow of the circle. This is why a five type system works so well and is not as limited item wise as a three type system. You could also translate this over to the battle system, or you could make that a total free-for-all without type balanceing, but rather have it function on an entirely diffrent system. Anyways here is what the circle looks like written out if thats easier for you:

(t) means effects by translation, as in through or is closest to dominating
--> means beats/is dominant over

Attack --> Health, Mana(t)

Health --> Mana, Trap(t)

Mana --> Trap, Defend(t)

Trap --> Defend, Attack(t)

Defend --> Attack, Health(t)


 

 

Reply by Super-Claus Jul 17 2012 19:04 GMT

I have a slightly different combat system in my notes, linked due to huge:

Sorta-Huge Resized Version

Huuuuuuuge Version

Different component items for each weapon would specify both the position on the wheels, as well as other modifiers that I have yet to sort out. This is a brief, 5-minute note, and I might add some more and reupload it later. Also my sketches for the core system are coming together, I'll post those later (tomorrow maybe).

COMMUNITY DEBATE #1: Which of the proposed combat systems is better, should they be combined somehow, or are they both terrible?

Reply by Gold Prognosticus Jul 17 2012 19:24 GMT

they should probably be combined just because the 4 elements that gold presented

also i think we should have our own character builds because fun

Alright guys I made a basic mockup of the shop and item builder. here it is.
Reply by Fortran Jul 17 2012 19:51 GMT

yours probably is alot more suited to combat, and is alot more complew than mine. I made mine on a simple rock paper scissors ideology with combination as the key use. Honestly I'm fine with anything, just thinking since mine goes on simpler logic it might be easier to make.

 

Also Shadoo from what I can understand of that god knows what drawing yeah thats a pretty neat system I could roll with that.

 

Reply by Super-Claus Jul 17 2012 20:02 GMT

I'm really liking what Shadoo is saying here. I think it's a really cool system for obtaining and making items. Here's a little take on my vision for how battle would be, anyways.

I'd see it as an attack / defense phase type thing, where a user would attack another, but you've got items lined up so you can retaliate and defend automatically. When you do that, you would either start a battle (You're given your own turn before the enemy can attack you again) or do nothing. Eventually the battle would continue until HP is lost, an agreement / trade / bribe has been made, or a person gives up.

Defending items would kinda be a game of prediction. You could set up an elemental shield if there's a lot of fire items floating around around the market, or you know an enemy uses them. Or you could set up a defense item that protects from less damage, but against all forms of damage. Maybe even set a trap that doesn't defend you, but damages them.

That's just my take, anyways.

Reply by Viddd Jul 17 2012 20:57 GMT

I like what you have there vid, nice idea. I'm guessing traps would be in the post itself though, not taking place in the battle system. They would probably effect the next user to reply, or certain traps could specify which user to effect the next time that specfiic user replied, kind of like this:

My Trap System:

 

 

Reply by Super-Claus Jul 17 2012 21:31 GMT

i realy miss shit like the cracker launcher and disguise ktis way more than I do the actual combat system jus sayin but this is a start

and traps could be real cool i guess like if you could grafitti all over the next person's post and shit

Reply by weedlord bonerhitler Jul 17 2012 21:37 GMT
That trap thing works. The thing I was talking about was like a retaliation. Instead of defending you, it would hurt them more. Not really a trap, but just sacrifices your defense for a counterattack.
Also, I agree with Flav. The more the item / RPG system ties into the actual forum / posting system, the better.
Reply by Viddd Jul 17 2012 21:54 GMT
bump
Reply by Super-Claus Jul 17 2012 22:30 GMT

I'm up for an RPG system

but I have to be made the SuperGod and have maxed stats and no one can beat me, only I can beat them

Reply by Lord Crump Jul 17 2012 23:06 GMT
Everyone should get a special item for signing up on day 1 called "Pyramid Head's Dildo" that instakills any member and sends a private message to them saying "lol p4wnz0r3d n00b xDD"
Reply by Fortran Jul 17 2012 23:10 GMT

signing up day 1? would we be leaving our accounts from the past two versions of digi? Also any veteran users get a special hat that does nothing but say "old asshat"

 

Reply by Super-Claus Jul 17 2012 23:12 GMT
in addition to the dildo, digi 2.0 members get the asshat hat, and 1.0 members get another rape item I'm too lazy to think of right now but meowmixer would probably design it
Reply by Fortran Jul 17 2012 23:19 GMT
no, we're not making up a story for this shit
Reply by Viddd Jul 18 2012 00:52 GMT

Dimenciao get out of here with that story bullshit

 

Reply by Super-Claus Jul 18 2012 00:59 GMT

there should be boss fights with special abilities,

ex. Lord Bowser Super Fire, Chaos Dimentio Hypno Blast, Stanky Nastasia Gas Bomb

Reply by Lord Crump Jul 18 2012 01:04 GMT

I suppose a random boss battle thing could work, like after 30 posts you will have to fight a random boss

So what do yall think of that for a boss battle system, if we do end up doing something like that

 

 

Reply by Super-Claus Jul 18 2012 07:46 GMT

Claus's idea is really good.....but we need to find another boss like Charlie from "Pocket god" or scary stuff like....you know "Slendermen".....he is watching you still

Reply by edi1012 Jul 18 2012 13:04 GMT
i like the boss idea. To make it more immersive, how about if you lose, you can't post for 24 hrs., and if you win, you get a rare super item that can *crag* with other user's profiles or instantly win a battle.
Reply by Grievous Jul 18 2012 13:34 GMT

Alright guys edi/stone pickaxe plays minecraft and suggests an slendermen boss so we better chase him out of here before he starts posting le rage comics

Reply by Fortran Jul 18 2012 14:31 GMT
the more i see of you on here edi the more i hate you
GET OUT
Reply by Nastasia Jul 18 2012 14:59 GMT

edi and dimenciao if you are going to stay on this site you are not allowed to help with digi 3.0

 

MAYBE digi 4.0 if you're still there whenever that comes out in like 2017

 

Reply by Super-Claus Jul 18 2012 19:21 GMT
wasn't nerr 2.0 supposed to have an aquarium or something
can we see that in 3.0
Reply by Lord Crump Jul 18 2012 19:30 GMT
also franish should be a chat smiley in nerr 3.0
http://digibutter.nerr.biz/viewtopic.php?t=78650
Reply by Lord Crump Jul 18 2012 19:33 GMT
bosses and shit should only appear in a retarded fyad-esque forum and losing should totally result in a temp ban or some shit
Reply by weedlord bonerhitler Jul 18 2012 19:37 GMT
hey Gold if you're doing that post gives you a random part thing don't forget to limit it to one or two parts per day so children don't spam the forum trying to grind.
Reply by Fortran Jul 18 2012 20:39 GMT
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